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m621 zma
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:05:00 -
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Discuss the ******* logic of that. |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:07:00 -
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Kin cats
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:10:00 -
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Yep, what he said.
But I like your moxie, kid.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:24:00 -
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Melee is arm power. Kincat is running power.
Why the jump got attached to the former rather than the latter makes little sense to me.... |
DeadlyAztec11
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:30:00 -
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Kinetic Catalyzers most likely enhance your reactions and anaerobic power.
Cardiac Regulators increase your Stamina and recovery.
Myofibril Stimulants only increase your strength per unit of stamina.
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shaman oga
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:33:00 -
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Different drugs, different effects.
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Mikel Arias
Challengers 506
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:44:00 -
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Actually, its something that improves strength, so it should allow to run faster, however, plus the kincats, they would be completely OP. If the case ever comes when they actually improves speed too, there should be a pennalty that affected the stamina, reducing it so you had to choose when to run and when to jump. |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
632
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:47:00 -
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we have kitty cats for that homie ~(._.~)
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Boot Booter
Titans of Phoenix
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:49:00 -
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Strength and speed are not always related... Plus it's a video game. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:51:00 -
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Cardio
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nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:01:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Discuss the ******* logic of that. Hit detection already a maaaajor issue adding strafe speed would make it worse I think its ok where its at atm perhaps cardio module might get that but honestly I dont think I want to get out gunned by scout anymore who have only about 300 hp againts my 800 due to there such small hit box |
Diablo Gamekeeper
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Kinetic Catalyzers most likely enhance your reactions and anaerobic power.
Cardiac Regulators increase your Stamina and recovery.
Myofibril Stimulants only increase your strength per unit of stamina. yeah, but if your legs are stronger you should run faster
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:10:00 -
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Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Kinetic Catalyzers most likely enhance your reactions and anaerobic power.
Cardiac Regulators increase your Stamina and recovery.
Myofibril Stimulants only increase your strength per unit of stamina. yeah, but if your legs are stronger you should run faster Not entirely true
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Gemini Cuspid
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:40:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Kinetic Catalyzers most likely enhance your reactions and anaerobic power.
Cardiac Regulators increase your Stamina and recovery.
Myofibril Stimulants only increase your strength per unit of stamina. yeah, but if your legs are stronger you should run faster Not entirely true Actually you are wrong. For those who are distance runners it's actually true for short distance speed running and jumping, they do go hand-in-hand. Distance running involves high amounts of cardiac stress increasing the amount of endorphines generated within the nervous system and corresponding glands. It's also distinctly why distance runners have high stamina but physically inferior leg strength to athletes who rely on jumps and speed.
Compare this to athletes in gymnastics and track where developed leg strength allows for significantly higher leaps, jumps and faster sprint speed; the muscles utilized rely in similar areas (sprint running does utilize also portions of the upper body however) but is also a symbiotic issue; typically as runners increase their leg strength their jumping strength also increases which is why many of these athletes incorporate jumps with medicine balls in increase leg strength. This is also the particular reason long distance and marathon runners DO NOT overly develop their leg muscles: because it impedes their distance running by increasing overall weight loads over periods while also increasing the overall strain they place on their bone and tendon muscles.
In short: when you jump higher you typically run faster and vice versa. When you run at a higher speed for longer periods of time you don't typically have a faster sprint speed nor do you jump higher which has to do with different regions of muscles being developed and the extent they are developed.
I also only know this answer because I ended up making a transition a decade ago from hurdles runner, to track to marathon running which also meant less time in the weight room and more time running so I already had the answer before all of this. And if you like to disagree with the logic, show me one distance runner with developed legs? Yeah we're all chicken legs, the WHOLE LOT OF US! |
Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:42:00 -
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Gemini Cuspid wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Kinetic Catalyzers most likely enhance your reactions and anaerobic power.
Cardiac Regulators increase your Stamina and recovery.
Myofibril Stimulants only increase your strength per unit of stamina. yeah, but if your legs are stronger you should run faster Not entirely true Actually you are wrong. For those who are distance runners it's actually true for short distance speed running and jumping, they do go hand-in-hand. Distance running involves high amounts of cardiac stress increasing the amount of endorphines generated within the nervous system and corresponding glands. It's also distinctly why distance runners have high stamina but physically inferior leg strength to athletes who rely on jumps and speed. Compare this to athletes in gymnastics and track where developed leg strength allows for significantly higher leaps, jumps and faster sprint speed; the muscles utilized rely in similar areas (sprint running does utilize also portions of the upper body however) but is also a symbiotic issue; typically as runners increase their leg strength their jumping strength also increases which is why many of these athletes incorporate jumps with medicine balls in increase leg strength. This is also the particular reason long distance and marathon runners DO NOT overly develop their leg muscles: because it impedes their distance running by increasing overall weight loads over periods while also increasing the overall strain they place on their bone and tendon muscles. In short: when you jump higher you typically run faster and vice versa. When you run at a higher speed for longer periods of time you don't typically have a faster sprint speed nor do you jump higher which has to do with different regions of muscles being developed and the extent they are developed. I also only know this answer because I ended up making a transition a decade ago from hurdles runner, to track to marathon running which also meant less time in the weight room and more time running so I already had the answer before all of this. And if you like to disagree with the logic, show me one distance runner with developed legs? Yeah we're all chicken legs, the WHOLE LOT OF US! So then what about body builders such mass has to have a down side especially with gravity
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Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:47:00 -
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Mikel Arias wrote:Actually, its something that improves strength, so it should allow to run faster, however, plus the kincats, they would be completely OP. If the case ever comes when they actually improve speed too, there should be a penalty that affected the stamina, reducing it so you had to choose when to run and when to jump.
strength does not = speed |
Sicerly Yaw
Quantum times
41
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:48:00 -
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myos = short burst energy, problem fixed |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.15 21:57:00 -
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hell most of the worlds strongmen are considered lumbering and slow they're not that fast; yet usai bolt is a amarr thrice damned twig in comparison; his descendants will definitely escape the first reclaiming.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:14:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:hell most of the worlds strongmen are considered lumbering and slow they're not that fast; yet usai bolt is a amarr thrice damned twig in comparison; his descendants will definitely escape the first reclaiming. Lol, that's so wrong on so many levels but hilarious at the same time.
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:15:00 -
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The muscles used in vertical jumping are used to an extent in running fast, but that does f-all when you do not have the cardiovascular fitness nor have done the anaerobic training necessary to take advantage said muscles to run/walk faster.
Myos do nothing for cardiovascular fitness, nor do they tap into ones anaerobic metabolic system.
Seriously. The human body is complex, and there are a myriad of systems that go into physical exertion. I assume that our clones are just as complex, if not moreso, than the human body.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:19:00 -
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The three-letter answer to all the "why" and "how come" questions on this... ugh... game: AUR
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:30:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Melee is arm power. Kincat is running power.
Why the jump got attached to the former rather than the latter makes little sense to me.... I was wondering this as well, but remembered that Rattati wanted Myofibrils to be better, so the community said, "hurr durr they increase strength, so shouldn't it increase leg strength?"
Make Kincats affect walking speed, too, now! |
Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:36:00 -
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Double post. Tablet malfunctioning. Am sad.
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Imp Smash
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:01:00 -
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Realistically speaking, leg power has little to do with run speed. The guys with the best vertical leaps in the NBA aren't the fastest.
Run speed is a neurological thing from what I understand. Myelin Sheath and all that related jazz.
Assuming what I remember is correct...logically, myofibs would be for jumps, and not Kinkats.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:26:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Melee is arm power. Kincat is running power.
Why the jump got attached to the former rather than the latter makes little sense to me.... I was wondering this as well, but remembered that Rattati wanted Myofibrils to be better, so the community said, "hurr durr they increase strength, so shouldn't it increase leg strength?" Make Kincats affect walking speed, too, now!
This would mean nerfing the sprint boost.
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