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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.15 19:16:00 -
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STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2015.03.15 19:24:00 -
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I will when you decide to come over and kill the tank single handedly holding an objective.
The State will always survive.
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Chayser
Rautaleijona
197
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Posted - 2015.03.15 19:29:00 -
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umm... we should hold them...? you saying that those objects are not there only for WP? 
We provide... VICTORY!
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.15 19:30:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:I will when you decide to come over and kill the tank single handedly holding an objective.
That's exactly what I do....hunt vehicles....
Also, most objectives these days are well hidden from vehicles.
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1151
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Posted - 2015.03.15 19:32:00 -
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I just wish they didn't get such an extreme HP buff, trying to kill them with a ADS can take half the match time. Now that some Incubus fits may be viable again I'd really like to get back to tank hunting with it but end up fighting off installations all match.
/Faceplam
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.15 19:42:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:I just wish they didn't get such an extreme HP buff, trying to kill them with a ADS can take half the match time. Now that some Incubus fits may be viable again I'd really like to get back to tank hunting with it but end up fighting off installations all match.
You really can't tank hunt with an Incubus anymore unless you have a tank or AV player actively engaging it.
Well fit proto tanks will NOT crack under any solo Incubus fit. One with damage mod and a side gun might crack it, but you'll explode to the first thing that sneezes in your general direction.
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Gemini Cuspid
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:I will when you decide to come over and kill the tank single handedly holding an objective. That's exactly what I do....hunt vehicles.... Also, most objectives these days are well hidden from vehicles.
And the majority of tank drivers DO NOT do this  Using the railgun to kill off the middle installations are always an ideal solution but killing off the installation that pops next to spawn and is a 5 second run always confuses me; it's not always one likely if seldom to flip and as it's right next to where we'd drop/spawn. If it's lost then the match is pretty much done because you were already going to be redlined ambushed whether its laser rifles, snipers, road kill charges or a maddy sitting right there!
There are a few matches likewise where the middle installations and letter objective in Dom is owned but instead of bring heat to the otherside or reinforcing the area a tank drivers will run off and abandon a position instead of helping to hold off all enemies in order to rack he most kills and retreat after taking hits from their installations/AA's and hey here comes the enemies maddy while ours is sitting back and getting repaired!
Most experienced players have a good idea of what installations to destroy and which not but it's usually the mentality of:
Kills > WP > Objective area > strategically captured zones. This is a good portion of Dust players both tank and foot meat fodder. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
1152
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:I just wish they didn't get such an extreme HP buff, trying to kill them with a ADS can take half the match time. Now that some Incubus fits may be viable again I'd really like to get back to tank hunting with it but end up fighting off installations all match. You really can't tank hunt with an Incubus anymore unless you have a tank or AV player actively engaging it. Well fit proto tanks will NOT crack under any solo Incubus fit. One with damage mod and a side gun might crack it, but you'll explode to the first thing that sneezes in your general direction.
It's a shame, it at least gave small rails a use. Now neither of its bonus's are useful in the slightest. The last few months I've resigned myself to using the python but I've always preferred armor tanking going all the way back to my EVE days.
/Faceplam
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nelo kazuma
Da Short Buss Driving School
41
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Posted - 2015.03.15 20:21:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations.
Ill agree its annoying but for people who have no av weapons these things are awesome it sucks but I
I find myself being the only one using swarms on my team allot of the time and I cant expect newbies to waste their low sp on av right off the bat not fair to them. I hate to say this ( might not be concerning you) but allot of tankers tend to charge in thinking there not gonna die and complain when they do tanks should be long range support not assholes who do as they plz |
Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
6702
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:32:00 -
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No.
I won't stop. I actually use them to protect stuff. |
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3169
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:36:00 -
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My Mom taught me this little rhyme:
"If it's yellow, if it's red,
Hack it."
My Mom was no great poet, but I have to listen to Mom's advice.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3169
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:39:00 -
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nelo kazuma wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations. Ill agree its annoying but for people who have no av weapons these things are awesome it sucks but I I find myself being the only one using swarms on my team allot of the time and I cant expect newbies to waste their low sp on av right off the bat not fair to them. I hate to say this ( might not be concerning you) but allot of tankers tend to charge in thinking there not gonna die and complain when they do tanks should be long range support not assholes who do as they plz
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You dropped these.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Assert Dominance
Negative-Feedback
1019
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:39:00 -
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maybe blues will take your advice
DUST Fiend wrote:
You could try, not caring.
It's ******* awesome.
6 man proto squad errday.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17670
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:40:00 -
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Bahirae Serugiusu wrote:I will when you decide to come over and kill the tank single handedly holding an objective.
Always do since whelping infantry is boring unless they put up AV. But the point stands the reason HAV and ADS drop turrets as soon as they can is because infantry is terrible at retaining these battlefield assets.
You will see them hacked instantly for the WP but rarely ever defended. If you aren't willing to defend your assets you don't deserve to have them.
Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you.
Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
383
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:40:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations.
actually do the opposite. keep hacking them. I would rather have them Blue and shooting at red vehicles than destroyed. Except for missile installations. They all should die
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
444
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:52:00 -
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There's very little incentive for infantry to hold them as they aren't targeted by them
They are incentivised to let them flip as they can hack them back for WP
Daily missions are not helping with incentives to kill and hack them
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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Vicious Minotaur
2172
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:55:00 -
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No.
+50
I am a minotaur.
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axis alpha
Ahrendee Inc.
Negative-Feedback
680
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:56:00 -
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I would hold them but you vehicle pansy's qq until they were made useless to pop other tanks so I'll keep getting that +50 wp by hacking those installations
I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.
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Juno Tristan
Obscure Reference
444
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:08:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:I would hold them but you vehicle pansy's qq until they were made useless to pop other tanks so I'll keep getting that +50 wp by hacking those installations
What? Installations are still very effective at taking out tanks
Do you think blaster turrets should auto target infantry within a certain range?
ADS Ramming Revenge!
Plasma Cannon Rampage
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BEAST ESD1
Y.A.M.A.H
83
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations.
so you want us to stop hacking so you can kill them for free WP sorry but no
I once stop a microwave on zero.
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Tread Loudly 2
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
98
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:16:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations.
Preach brotha
I Like Tanks, Nova Knives and MagSec SMG's.
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DUST Fiend
16088
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:52:00 -
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BEAST ESD1 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations. so you want us to stop hacking so you can kill them for free WP sorry but no
Give me -300 WP for killing installations and i will kill every last one. Losing 1.2 million isk cuz that blue turret on your retreat flipped is lame as hell, and is ultimately blueberries faults for not helping blow them up in the first place.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17673
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Posted - 2015.03.16 00:54:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:No.
+50
Fine.
+100 WP
Now no one gets them.
Raphael: I'm warning you. Do not leave me here. I will find you.
Castiel: Maybe one day. Today you're my little bitch
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
386
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:03:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:BEAST ESD1 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations. so you want us to stop hacking so you can kill them for free WP sorry but no Give me -300 WP for killing installations and i will kill every last one. Losing 1.2 million isk cuz that blue turret on your retreat flipped is lame as hell, and is ultimately blueberries faults for not helping blow them up in the first place.
or you can run with people who are willing to check the installations for you. quit being lazy
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
2630
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:25:00 -
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No. I really need those WP.
People find this this review helpful!
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
803
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:36:00 -
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NO.
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! Die YOU SHADOW BEING IN THE DARK!!!
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:37:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:BEAST ESD1 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations. so you want us to stop hacking so you can kill them for free WP sorry but no Give me -300 WP for killing installations and i will kill every last one. Losing 1.2 million isk cuz that blue turret on your retreat flipped is lame as hell, and is ultimately blueberries faults for not helping blow them up in the first place. or you can run with people who are willing to check the installations for you. quit being lazy
Tells me to make other people to do my busy work, then calls me lazy
@_@
Anyways, I'm not saying there's any balance issue or even actually complaining, I'm just musing about how much I HATE people who hack installations because it all must die in a fire, and when I get +100 +50 I do this  all day long.
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:39:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:BEAST ESD1 wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:STOP hacking installations.
You're HORRIBLE at holding them, and cost vehicle pilots TONS of ISK when they randomly flip in the middle of a fight.
Stop the violence. Stop hacking Installations. so you want us to stop hacking so you can kill them for free WP sorry but no Give me -300 WP for killing installations and i will kill every last one. Losing 1.2 million isk cuz that blue turret on your retreat flipped is lame as hell, and is ultimately blueberries faults for not helping blow them up in the first place. or you can run with people who are willing to check the installations for you. quit being lazy Tells me to make other people to do my busy work, then calls me lazy @_@ Anyways, I'm not saying there's any balance issue or even actually complaining, I'm just musing about how much I HATE people who hack installations because it all must die in a fire, and when I get +100 +50 I do this all day long.
another idea: situational awareness
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DUST Fiend
16089
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Posted - 2015.03.16 05:45:00 -
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SgtMajSquish MLBJ wrote:another idea: situational awareness
As I've noted in my examples, blue turrets that flip as you're moving back out of an engagement since AV and tanks are everywhere, and as you're falling back you know that blue turret is there and you're turning your slow ass turret that I swear isn't getting the skill boost (**** your punctuations) and you're just praying all the way that some freaking moron doesn't hack that turret that should be long since dead, costing you an ass ton of ISK. Pubs will be pubs, solo will be solo.
It's a minor thing. It's part of the game. It's just amusing to me, and it's more prevalent down on the ground, somewhere I'm still not entirely used to.
I have plenty of situational awareness, not that I always choose to listen to it @_@ CURSE YOU TARGET FIXATION!!!!!
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
917
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Posted - 2015.03.16 07:48:00 -
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Good luck hacking that installation when mah quadruple dmg-mod Gunnlogi is about... |
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.03.16 08:17:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:Good luck hacking that installation when mah quadruple dmg-mod Gunnlogi is about...
I can't imagine that last 1, or even 2 damage mods are giving you much damage at all haha. Much better spent on some survivability, or at very least a heat sink or two.
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Derpty Derp
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.03.16 08:43:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Good luck hacking that installation when mah quadruple dmg-mod Gunnlogi is about... I can't imagine that last 1, or even 2 damage mods are giving you much damage at all haha. Much better spent on some survivability, or at very least a heat sink or two.
You can only have 1 heat sync... And that's in the 5th slot, lol.
It's a gank-tank, so survivability is null and void (almost got Duna with it earlier) and every little helps xD |
Onesimus Tarsus
is-a-Corporation
3178
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Posted - 2015.03.16 08:54:00 -
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Derpty Derp wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Derpty Derp wrote:Good luck hacking that installation when mah quadruple dmg-mod Gunnlogi is about... I can't imagine that last 1, or even 2 damage mods are giving you much damage at all haha. Much better spent on some survivability, or at very least a heat sink or two. You can only have 1 heat sync... And that's in the 5th slot, lol. It's a gank-tank, so survivability is null and void (almost got Duna with it earlier) and every little helps xD
... I love "almost" stories. That was the "Hoosiers" of "almost" stories.
KDR matchmaking fixes everything but the stupid purple Quafe stuff.
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Flint Beastgood III
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1509
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Posted - 2015.03.16 09:11:00 -
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Communication. Battlefield awareness.
This "problem" should be a non-issue when playing effectively.
I feel your pain DF but you shouldn't have this problem when running in a competent squad.
[Let's not have an argument about people who wanna play solo in a squad-based game, or players who don't think it's important to have a headset.]
Skills - https://www.facebook.com/notes/flint-beastgood-iii/list-of-trained-skills/416505058477164
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