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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:01:00 -
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I don't agree with this, but especially in our early days of PC it was a necessary evil to support the team
to think that any new corp can come in to PC battles and win enough to profit is crazy (unless it's a new corp, 90% vets)
Our corp is made up of some veteran players, but they have the misfortune to have to carry scrubs like me
DMG held our first district a week before Passive ISK was removed, after clones filled, we had made about
24 million ISK, then boom CCP 'fixed' it by cutting off life support for new PC groups and paying 0 for clones
Since then, we have used the corps 'Clone Carnage' and 'Carnage Corpse' to increase revenue for our mercs
I don't have the patience to play Farmville while playing Dust, so don't mistake me, we have not actively farmed
but when the opportunity was there we took it, 'Clone Carnage' was used for a time when FA got attracted to us
for those that do not PC, a new corp hanging on vs FA.g's is expensive... about 30 million can be burned per loss
so I took the chance, re-couped ISK while keeping our mercs in the fights.
Recently we have flipped a handful of Nyain districts after they changed timers to a good EU timer
with the current state of PC, there have not been enough newer corps to hand them to, and we have no intentions
to hold more Districts than the number of active mercs we have need to have active PC content.
So when we held more than 10 'Carnage Corpse' was born, and our PC mercs got some revenue from that
which, depending how you see it they had earned by fighting for the land in the first place...
But again, I dislike having to play Farmville and wanted little or no part of it after it was setup.
If you leave mercs to their own devices and they get greedy, DMG no longer profit from 'farms'
as they are in control of a couple mercs rather than the corporation, so it is their problem.
I will happily remove their districts, when farming is no longer an issue in MH, until then, it's their problem
Zatara and Shepherds comments on who farmed more and who started it, inspired this post
As it is something I disagree with, all active land should be used to fight, but if you look at the bigger picture
handing new corps districts and not sufficient support to hold them, is another method that leads to farming
these corporations cannot defend themselves vs experienced PC players, so they get farmed via fights
A % of MH is completely useless land.
xx The Fairies
Tim's lemonade stand
anything from NAE or FE while big dadtt is there
Nyains old slice, now Cap Ac's (not enough have the level or balls to fight you for it)
and an entire planet to 'Billboards' when only one of them is actually a service (Eve/Dust ISK exchange)
and while mentioning CBM, I'm sure they have a better idea who is doing it than I do
If farming is going to be stopped, it should be cut off for all active PC groups/mercs not just who is picked out
The concept of CBM is actually a decent one, if it regulated all active teams for farming/flipping..
But how often are Meildolf districts used to farm?? more than the rest of MH from what I've seen
Victor Hadah, owns more land than most corps in MH, and he is solo in his corp (he is OP)
TL;DR - reasoning why new blood needs to 'farm' in order to survive MH
- and the corps 'policing' the farms hold more of them than any others |
SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
6223
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:12:00 -
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I made a topic and reasoning to why new corps needed to farm - everyone rejected it.
It's too easily abusable in so many instances, anyways.
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TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1833
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:13:00 -
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- Request for CBM form 0101213
The concept of CMB besides trolling new corps, is actually quite solid, it is a gathering some PC veterans
who have the contacts and mercs at their disposal to rival any active team in MH... so I'd suggest keeping it
If the purpose was re-defined and the 'rules' applied to all.
0.H attempting to stabilize new activity in Almur system was a great move for PC while it was active
they had the land on offer to share with beginning teams and anyone that's fought them knows you better be ready
I had high hopes for that system continuing as it would grow the new corps into active PC corps
(If possible I would love to see this returned to MH, and offer a friendly zone for new blood)
maybe it could, who knows?
But if it is going to work there should be an opposite, if Almur is for beginners section off Meildolf for vets
most of you can recall how 0.H intended Almure to run, so Meildolf would offer a similar set of rules.
Veteran, or corps with enough practice to fight those veterans, should hold 1 district each in that area
it would not only work as a base for the best teams to fight each other, but when a corp looks to the top of MH
they would see the best teams Molden Heath has to offer...
Probably won't work, and you can try tell me how to live my life, but you can't tell me how to dream !! |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1833
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:14:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:I made a topic and reasoning to why new corps needed to farm - everyone rejected it.
It's too easily abusable in so many instances, anyways.
yes, I agree and if our small community can't settle it, then burn them all. (the farms/alt corps)
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2264
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:17:00 -
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billboards are not used to farm they will sit there online and if they are needed to give to new corps then they will be handed out. lets be clear people can farm if they chose but be prepared to defend the district because it will get attacked. i hear the CBM has a full time job finding farms and snipeing locked districts. there will all ways be districts available for corporations who would like one and people can contact me any time.
KEQ diplomat. CBM
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DJINN Rampage
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
1758
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:26:00 -
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I remember when ROFL meant "Rolling On The Floor Laughing That I Have To **** This Alliance Again"
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True Ancient Exile.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Back and Forth
7384
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:41:00 -
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CBM has a concept and rules?
fill me in...
As i always said all rules are superseded by the "Because i can clause"
My personal stance: You can farm, as long as you can stop the CBM from taking your farms. If you have farms just be prepared to defend them and don't cry when they get flipped. Gives the CBM something to do.
And i always been against constant hand holding, i feel that there is only so much you can do to help a new corp in PC. Not planning to go in and lead their corp for them.
CBM
EVE, Dust & Corp Services
Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
1345
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Posted - 2015.03.10 22:30:00 -
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Hm...
I think I should elaborate greatly on the CBM, what it is, what we do, who we are, and guidelines blah blah blah whatever.
I might ask Silver for a video so it will go faster.
Anyways, lolFA and Cap farming, Cap has like what 2-3 districts to farm? FA had more farms exploiting a broken mechanic than any other corp. I remember one of the many farm corps they had owned like 4% of MH.
As for CBM prime, each district is owned by someone or a group of people or a corp. Check their history and you will notice that most of not all are not farming. Each corp except for two are made from a joke involving PC. I will elaborate more in a video if Silver agrees.
"I don't always lock threads but when I do, I vigorously masturbat afterwards." - CCP LockingBro
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R0man837
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.10 23:23:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Hm...
I think I should elaborate greatly on the CBM, what it is, what we do, who we are, and guidelines blah blah blah whatever.
I might ask Silver for a video so it will go faster.
Anyways, lolFA and Cap farming, Cap has like what 2-3 districts to farm? FA had more farms exploiting a broken mechanic than any other corp. I remember one of the many farm corps they had owned like 4% of MH.
As for CBM prime, each district is owned by someone or a group of people or a corp. Check their history and you will notice that most of not all are not farming. Each corp except for two are made from a joke involving PC. I will elaborate more in a video if Silver agrees.
I think there's 4 dedicated to me lol |
Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1768
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Posted - 2015.03.11 01:31:00 -
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Nice try on the PR move. |
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Jigoku No ReizaSan
Negative-Feedback
328
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:23:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:billboards are not used to farm they will sit there online and if they are needed to give to new corps then they will be handed out. lets be clear people can farm if they chose but be prepared to defend the district because it will get attacked. i hear the CBM has a full time job finding farms and snipeing locked districts. there will all ways be districts available for corporations who would like one and people can contact me any time.
Can Mexican justice league get a district? We want to be known
;3 Add me bb
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Las Naranjas
Mexican Justice League
1
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:25:00 -
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Jigoku No ReizaSan wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:billboards are not used to farm they will sit there online and if they are needed to give to new corps then they will be handed out. lets be clear people can farm if they chose but be prepared to defend the district because it will get attacked. i hear the CBM has a full time job finding farms and snipeing locked districts. there will all ways be districts available for corporations who would like one and people can contact me any time. Can Mexican justice league get a district? We want to be known
Si, Un districto |
CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
2271
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Posted - 2015.03.11 14:35:00 -
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Jigoku No ReizaSan wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:billboards are not used to farm they will sit there online and if they are needed to give to new corps then they will be handed out. lets be clear people can farm if they chose but be prepared to defend the district because it will get attacked. i hear the CBM has a full time job finding farms and snipeing locked districts. there will all ways be districts available for corporations who would like one and people can contact me any time. Can Mexican justice league get a district? We want to be known
sure just have el supermano and el batmano contact me i love those peps.
KEQ diplomat. CBM
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Texas Killionaire
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
605
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Posted - 2015.03.11 17:42:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Hm...
I think I should elaborate greatly on the CBM, what it is, what we do, who we are, and guidelines blah blah blah whatever.
I might ask Silver for a video so it will go faster.
Anyways, lolFA and Cap farming, Cap has like what 2-3 districts to farm? FA had more farms exploiting a broken mechanic than any other corp. I remember one of the many farm corps they had owned like 4% of MH.
As for CBM prime, each district is owned by someone or a group of people or a corp. Check their history and you will notice that most of not all are not farming. Each corp except for two are made from a joke involving PC. I will elaborate more in a video if Silver grees.
Fixed.
Nerds.
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"The Mister Rogers of Dust" - nickmunson
FOR THE STATE
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD
RUST415
772
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Posted - 2015.03.12 00:52:00 -
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I don't think there are any new corps in PC capable of farming, or even obtaining more than 2 districts. I haven't seen em atleast I may be wrong.
Would like to say here in the open that DC doesn't farm anything but bush lol! Any extra districts we ever get are already lined up for training new guys so their first PC experience isn't 16 experienced mercs ready to stomp them day 1.
We're actually trying to help guys get in. My pockets are fine. Yes PC can take a huge toll no doubt, and it would be nice to have some extra ISK, but I'm addicted to the grind. Easy anything makes you soft.
The CBM can simply send a mail anytime they think we're farming. Be more than glad to join any chat, or show them how new players are getting on in our training. You said you wanted more teams in PC. Well we're trying, but there are no vets with tons of PC experience dying to take on any real challenge. It's too easy to be carried on already successful teams. So we're training guys from scratch, and if you've fought any DC team chances are they aren't closed beta vets. Most don't even have 20 mil.
About to log on so if any of you want it's spelled "Bradric Banewolf".
No guessing or assuming required.
Again, thank D1CK for having another team to fight.
"Anybody order chaos?"
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CPM Awox
Mexican Justice League
201
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Posted - 2015.03.12 03:45:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:Jigoku No ReizaSan wrote:CUSE TOWN333 wrote:billboards are not used to farm they will sit there online and if they are needed to give to new corps then they will be handed out. lets be clear people can farm if they chose but be prepared to defend the district because it will get attacked. i hear the CBM has a full time job finding farms and snipeing locked districts. there will all ways be districts available for corporations who would like one and people can contact me any time. Can Mexican justice league get a district? We want to be known sure just have el supermano and el batmano contact me i love those peps.
***** I'm the one you need to talk to.
Killed again has Super-Ebola.
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
401
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:14:00 -
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Why stop small scale farming when there's more than enough land wasted, look at all that cap aqq land lying around...
Everyone who has the anti farming stance has already farmed and lined their pockets so it's just a case of the previous exploiters sitting on a high horse and dictating from their hand written dust bibles. You think all those billions of Isk came from ambush?
"If there is a strafe nerf in this game, remove hit detection"- manboar 2014
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Dust User
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
1776
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:58:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:Why stop small scale farming when there's more than enough land wasted, look at all that cap aqq land lying around...
Everyone who has the anti farming stance has already farmed and lined their pockets so it's just a case of the previous exploiters sitting on a high horse and dictating from their hand written dust bibles. You think all those billions of Isk came from ambush?
You can farm all you want but don't be surprised when you get attacked.
Successfully defend your farm and you can plant all the crops you want. |
Wolfica
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
833
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Posted - 2015.03.15 07:34:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:Hm...
I think I should elaborate greatly on the CBM, what it is, what we do, who we are, and guidelines blah blah blah whatever.
I might ask Silver for a video so it will go faster.
Anyways, lolFA and Cap farming, Cap has like what 2-3 districts to farm? FA had more farms exploiting a broken mechanic than any other corp. I remember one of the many farm corps they had owned like 4% of MH.
As for CBM prime, each district is owned by someone or a group of people or a corp. Check their history and you will notice that most of not all are not farming. Each corp except for two are made from a joke involving PC. I will elaborate more in a video if Silver agrees.
hold up there Shiyou buddy. even though FA did hold a f*ck ton of land at one point and 10-15% of the districts in molden heath were in our farming corps doesnt mean all those districts were being constantly farmed. only a few people actually took on the time to farm them
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Grand Master Kubo
PIanet Express
Smart Deploy
357
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Posted - 2015.03.16 20:49:00 -
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Farming is a really grey area. I attacked Stellar Army only to find out it was a SOG farm. I let the CBM know and they haven't taken action based on the fact that SOG actively participates in PC. I can agree with this and like you said, farming is a necessary evil. It is extremely difficult for new corps to make ISK in PC and I can guarantee that my corp has lost ISK since getting involved with PC. |
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