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MRBH1997
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Posted - 2015.03.10 16:41:00 -
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Dude, proto suits are meant for PC, not pub matches. If you could lose a couple proto suits (which is only possible as a logi) and still profit, then why would anyone play PC. Here's a tip, don't try to proto stomp if you'd don't got the wallet or skill for it.
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MRBH1997
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Posted - 2015.03.10 20:05:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:MRBH1997 wrote:Dude, proto suits are meant for PC, not pub matches. If you could lose a couple proto suits (which is only possible as a logi) and still profit, then why would anyone play PC. Here's a tip, don't try to proto stomp if you'd don't got the wallet or skill for it. Don't you ******* tell me what protosuits are used for. You're going to tell me it is ok for me to get protostomped in a public match but it is not OK for me to use a protosuit in a public match? Why the **** am I able to buy protosuits with ISK if what you are saying is true when PC matches do not reward ISK? And don't you ******* talk to me about skill you little *****. You don't ******* know me. 90% of the time I am placing in the top spots of the match leaderboard and this is while I am running solo (I have yet to run with a squad in this game).
Proto stomper have the ISK to do so, and usually the skill. Not saying it is, never did. But proto stomping is a completely different issue. And PC's do give millions of ISK, only if you win.
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MRBH1997
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Posted - 2015.03.11 00:15:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:MRBH1997 wrote:Summa Militum wrote:MRBH1997 wrote:Dude, proto suits are meant for PC, not pub matches. If you could lose a couple proto suits (which is only possible as a logi) and still profit, then why would anyone play PC. Here's a tip, don't try to proto stomp if you'd don't got the wallet or skill for it. Don't you ******* tell me what protosuits are used for. You're going to tell me it is ok for me to get protostomped in a public match but it is not OK for me to use a protosuit in a public match? Why the **** am I able to buy protosuits with ISK if what you are saying is true when PC matches do not reward ISK? And don't you ******* talk to me about skill you little *****. You don't ******* know me. 90% of the time I am placing in the top spots of the match leaderboard and this is while I am running solo (I have yet to run with a squad in this game). Proto stomper have the ISK to do so, and usually the skill. Not saying it is, never did. But proto stomping is a completely different issue. And PC's do give millions of ISK, only if you win. Faction Warfare matches only reward you millions of ISK if your corporation rewards that to you for winning. Whenever I win Faction Warfare matches I get a solid amount of Loyalty Points but I am limited as to what I can purchase with that plus Factional Warfare matches take a long ass time to get into. Let me use an Ambush Match I just played a little bit ago to give you an example of the ISK payout pissing me off. I won an Ambush match and placed 1st on my team, I had 300 WP more than the person in 2nd place. I went 8 and 1 in this match. My payout was 230,000 ISK. When I subtract the 185,000 ISK for the 1 clone I lost I only profit 45,000 ISK. It would take 4 matches like this for me to earn enough ISK to increase my inventory for the proto class I used by 1. That is ridiculous. For someone coming in first place on a winning team the ISK payout should be much higher. If anything CCP should let us know how ISK payout is determined. If I knew that I could focus on doing things that would give me a much higher ISK payout. I have had some matches where I have earned 400-500,000+ ISK and I have no idea how. If I could get 400-500,000 ISK each time I won an Ambush match in first place I would be happy with the ISK situation. As it is right now I think it sucks.
Now you're talking about faction warfare? You shouldn't ever gain ISK from that! PC is planetary conquest scrub. Also, ISK gain is based on what the enemy team loses. Here's an example: I kill 5 sicas in a match while tanking and make 350k. The next I kill 3 proto gunnlogis and make 500k with a mix of other LAV kills. It's all based on what you kill. Also you shouldn't make slot from an ambush. You make more from skirmish or don because usually over 100 clones are killed. Payout is all based on biomass and what people lose.
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MRBH1997
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Posted - 2015.03.11 13:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:MRBH1997 wrote:
Now you're talking about faction warfare? You shouldn't ever gain ISK from that! PC is planetary conquest scrub. Also, ISK gain is based on what the enemy team loses. Here's an example: I kill 5 sicas in a match while tanking and make 350k. The next I kill 3 proto gunnlogis and make 500k with a mix of other LAV kills. It's all based on what you kill. Also you shouldn't make slot from an ambush. You make more from skirmish or don because usually over 100 clones are killed. Payout is all based on biomass and what people lose.
I wholly disagree with that statement. It's damn easy to make a lot of ISK by being an active and contributing member of the FW cycle, especially in EVE, though not so much so in Dust due to lack of fleshed out mechanics and a non free market set up. I'd suggest that it should be very viable to make ISK from FW by selling on unique assets that are only attainable in FW, essentially converting LP to ISK as one might do in EVE through the purchase of LP ships and the sale of them on local markets. Also to be fair it was arguably a much more competitive and enjoyable time for all FW players when LP was non-existant and players could subsist entirely via FW combat as well as prosper.
In EVE, faction warfare only gives LP which is used with ISK to purchase faction gear. So it's working as intended and as it should. Why should Dust FW work differently than EVE FW, you supposed to risk what you choose to gain LP. Each race has weapons and equipment better than anything you can buy with ISK. Agreeing with who I quoted, and I do sell salvage of LP gear. Wish you could make more off it though.
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Posted - 2015.03.11 23:05:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:MRBH1997 wrote:True Adamance wrote:MRBH1997 wrote:
Now you're talking about faction warfare? You shouldn't ever gain ISK from that! PC is planetary conquest scrub. Also, ISK gain is based on what the enemy team loses. Here's an example: I kill 5 sicas in a match while tanking and make 350k. The next I kill 3 proto gunnlogis and make 500k with a mix of other LAV kills. It's all based on what you kill. Also you shouldn't make slot from an ambush. You make more from skirmish or don because usually over 100 clones are killed. Payout is all based on biomass and what people lose.
I wholly disagree with that statement. It's damn easy to make a lot of ISK by being an active and contributing member of the FW cycle, especially in EVE, though not so much so in Dust due to lack of fleshed out mechanics and a non free market set up. I'd suggest that it should be very viable to make ISK from FW by selling on unique assets that are only attainable in FW, essentially converting LP to ISK as one might do in EVE through the purchase of LP ships and the sale of them on local markets. Also to be fair it was arguably a much more competitive and enjoyable time for all FW players when LP was non-existant and players could subsist entirely via FW combat as well as prosper. In EVE, faction warfare only gives LP which is used with ISK to purchase faction gear. So it's working as intended and as it should. Why should Dust FW work differently than EVE FW, you supposed to risk what you choose to gain LP. Each race has weapons and equipment better than anything you can buy with ISK. Agreeing with who I quoted, and I do sell salvage of LP gear. Wish you could make more off it though. I think I was not clear. In EVE one early LP by completing plexes ranging from Novice to Large and that is how one primarily earns their income within the FW zone, however one can also earn ISK by destroying the Rats that spawn on the plex and looting their wrecks providing players with small bounties as well as loot. Moreover since FW is a PvP active area one also earns LP and ISK from killing War Targets [henceforth WT] based on the bounty system and form their loot. Additionally players can undertake faction specific missions for LP and can loot ISK from them as well as while in system waiting for plexes to spawn belt rat for ISK and loot. FW has numerous opportunities to earn ISK on a minor level however where ISK making in FW really comes in is during the slog from being at a lower tier up through into T 2-4 the raw influx of LP leads to the FWers ability to exchange for Faction Shipes en masse to be sold on open markets of ISK. I believe this sort of thing can be applied to Dust 514 as well with the advent of player trading. If players were forced to sign up to one FW at a time I believe a fledgling market for unique LP goods like the dropsuits and nanite injectors, etc would be a very profitable means of allowing PC players to get the best content while sustaining a healthy and competitive FW player base. E.G - FW Players sign on to their chose faction and can only play for them/their allies [2/4 factions for arguments sake] and can earn LP to be used to purchase specific unique goods [skins, slight variations of weapons/modules] and sell those to PC players who may not have access to these modules due to their own PC matches or FW constraints supporting the FW system and spreading out the build up of wealth from PC.
I see what you mean and I agree that those additions should be added. That would not only make FW more tasteful but make dust more linked with EVE as it should be. But until they expand on FW, it doesn't benefit more than LP for better faction gear.
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