Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.03.10 16:22:00 -
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Delete it, it's the only way to be sure.
Over 3 years and the basic problems have never been fixed or solved and i don't see that happening any time soon.
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2015.03.10 18:06:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Delete it, it's the only way to be sure.
Over 3 years and the basic problems have never been fixed or solved and i don't see that happening any time soon.
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The above post is respectful, contains no ranting, contains no personal attacks, contains no trolling, contains no racism, contains no discrimination, contains no profanity, contains no spamming. This post is an opinion and is related to DUST514  No worries. Disclaimer accepted  But CCP isn't going to take that stance, and without some form of give and take, Rattati isn't taking swarm posts seriously. Infantry are happy with current swarm meta and they far outnumber pilots. The majority of pilots, and i have done this too, have put up posts born of frustration, which got pilots nowhere. So I want to build a lasting thread where new ideas can congregate in the same vien as tanks? So why not a bit of give and take. Swarmers can get more missiles per magazine, and use their nanohives for Av nades. They can have longer range, to keep them a bit safer from infantry. For that they also get a significant decrease in missile manueverability over long distances. Upclose and dirty AV work shouldn't change. Smart AV gameplay shouldn't change at all. Basically, what advantages tankers and pilots are willing to give up to swarms in exchange for changing the way swarms work? At the same time, untill this thread gets a blue tag I wont worry too much about hashing out some decent numbers. Also, lets see how the new Armor hardeners play out for Incubus post hotfix Echo.
I see no give and take at all with swarm users.
The missiles can go through cover, they can bend around several corners and sharp corners at that, it's 4seconds to fire all 3 volleys which hammer 90% of all vehicles with DS being made useless and an AB a must have, lock on through cover, lock on and fire without looking at the target.
Lets take the problems in order with the SL, you have to break it down piece by piece because it has so many problems.
Locking on through cover - broken, should not happen at all
Locked on and can fire without looking at the target ie locked on and you look upwards to fire the missiles upwards - Again broken, if you look away from the target you should lose lock instantly
Missiles going through cover - Broken, sometimes i will see them go through the roof of a building where they should have clipped the roof, if any cover is involved it should hit it.
Missiles going around corners - Big problem since it has to do with tracking so it should be included, broken tracking because it tracks the vehicle from where it was locked on to where it was when fired to where it use to be and then to where it is now which all in all means playing peak a boo doesn't work. For the ADS/DS then it needs to follow so have a weaker air version only but again that would means DS get a lock on warning and some way of throwing the missiles off by either countermeasures or aerial manouvers.
Pilots back in the day hated that it covered the entire map with 3k damage per volley for no skill.
Eventually it got dropped to 175m lock on and missiles still follow to 400m but now they can lock on faster and get all 3 volleys in the air.
The way i see it the SL users want there cake and to eat it aswell, ADS/DS pilots want lock on warnings and countermeasures, ground vehicles would like it to actually hit cover and stop following around corners. SL users want status quo, really you should ask them what they are willing to give up since pilots cannot really give up anything, vehicles are at a bare minimum as it is and even if they were taken out of the game really nothing would change.
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