DUST Search - I want to create a competitive corporation

Pagl1u M wrote:

Proto Annihilator wrote:

I am seeking advice and ideas.

Here's a few things I want to incorporate.

A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night.

I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books.
I would need some nerds to monitor stats.

Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well.

3 man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you.

I have other thoughts but can wait. I could use some feed back.

So: you want t create a competitive corp, in this game the only "competitive" (lol) thing is PC.
So you want to create a competitive PC corp.

Now: PC players already have a corp or would rather join a corp they already know to be a good corp. I, myself, would not join a self proclaimed "competitive PC corp".

So you need to find players that are not already in PC or that are quite new to it.

Creating a completely new team with unexperienced players will bring you to loose a lot of PCs.

Losing a lot and enstablishing a dictatorship will bring you to lose a lot of players.

All that being said: you cant create what you want to create atm.

Also: what is your experience in PC?

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Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:48:00 - [1] - Quote I am seeking advice and ideas. Here's a few things I want to incorporate. A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night. I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books. I would need some nerds to monitor stats. Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well. 3 man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you. I have other thoughts but can wait. I could use some feed back. World of hurt
VAHZZ 765	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:54:00 - [2] - Quote Maybe be chillax if someone isn't super active, though if they miss two weeks without notice, they get they ass removed. *The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting*.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 05:57:00 - [3] - Quote VAHZZ wrote: Maybe be chillax if someone isn't super active, though if they miss two weeks without notice, they get they ass removed. I was thinking a day. Or a PC. Maybe we could have a bench but I'd rather it take effort to keep your slot. World of hurt
VAHZZ 766	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:03:00 - [4] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Maybe be chillax if someone isn't super active, though if they miss two weeks without notice, they get they ass removed. I was thinking a day. Or a PC. Maybe we could have a bench but I'd rather it take effort to keep your slot. A day is too much, I'd say 3 days or a PC. *The supreme art of war, is to subdue the enemy without fighting*.
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4400	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:07:00 - [5] - Quote wait what, you're expecting to keep a competitive corp wherein you actually remove a third of your members every week? GL, you'll need it. Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:11:00 - [6] - Quote If someone got cut they'd just miss pay that day and have to re apply. Think 16 in corp chat at all times. No matter what. I might have a pub channel or feeder corp to feed the roster. Signing off wouldn't necessarily get you booted. Bad games and poor attendance would. World of hurt
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:14:00 - [7] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: wait what, you're expecting to keep a competitive corp wherein you actually remove a third of your members every week? GL, you'll need it. It will be rocky until people get used to fighting with professional mercs. I suspect they will be scooping up the top slots rather easily at first. Replace and improve every chance we get. People who lone wolf would be welcome as long as they can get serious for a PC. World of hurt
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 962	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:46:00 - [8] - Quote you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO 6 man proto squad errday.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 06:50:00 - [9] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO Are you sure? I am not sure what you just said. World of hurt
axis alpha Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 664	Posted - 2015.03.08 07:07:00 - [10] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO Are you sure? I am not sure what you just said. Just pretend like u understand.... And move on. Listen to the man. I cut you up so bad.... You gonna wish I no cut you up so bad.

Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 07:12:00 - [11] - Quote axis alpha wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO Are you sure? I am not sure what you just said. Just pretend like u understand.... And move on. Listen to the man. I am all ears. World of hurt
Mexxx Dust-Slayer Negative-Feedback 405	Posted - 2015.03.08 07:14:00 - [12] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 585	Posted - 2015.03.08 07:18:00 - [13] - Quote Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO I will never succeed at what? Which approach are you talking about? Am I speaking with anyone worthy of judging anything? World of hurt
Georgia Xavier Y.A.M.A.H 45	Posted - 2015.03.08 08:01:00 - [14] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO I will never succeed at what? Which approach are you talking about? Am I speaking with anyone worthy of judging anything? I think he means that you won't succeed at being a competitive corp with your supposedly excessive harsh approach when it comes to handling your corp members like say letting them go if they were offline for about two weeks. Don't take my word for it,he might be saying something else completely different. And don't get angry dude,you asked for feedback and well he gave a rather.....obscure one but a feedback nontheless How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
Dengru Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 522	Posted - 2015.03.08 10:19:00 - [15] - Quote I don't think there are that many unaffiliated good players to sustain a system like this (>^_^)><(^.^<)
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1953	Posted - 2015.03.08 10:22:00 - [16] - Quote People have lives, jobs, and some of us, sex occasionally, so expecting your people to be at your beck and call at all times is naive. If your goal is to be a part of an elite hit squad, then you want to be a ringer, not a CEO. If you want to be a CEO, prepare to recruit whoever you can, whenever you can in order to build a team. Some people don't mesh. Some people can't get along with anyone. Some people pee sitting down. They're precious little snowflakes, just like everyone else. Be prepared to hear out the whiners, to battle wits with trolls, and sooth your slayers that can't stop yelling at everyone. You'll have to be a diplomat and a tyrant. Mother Teresa with an Adolf mustache. Good CEOs keep players, bad ones don't have them, and some have fat enough wallets to pay for the company they keep. Want you want and what you can get aren't the same. Hearing the lamentations of Amarr women since 92'.
LOOKMOM NOHANDS Warpoint Sharx 117	Posted - 2015.03.08 11:35:00 - [17] - Quote It sounds like you are trying to build a ringer corp which has its own downfalls. Unless you are giving out some MASSIVE paychecks ruling people through fear of elimination is not going to work very well.
Big Burns 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 677	Posted - 2015.03.08 13:59:00 - [18] - Quote (No Comment). Dust514- 90% L3 / 10% R1
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 587	Posted - 2015.03.08 14:22:00 - [19] - Quote Dengru wrote: I don't think there are that many unaffiliated good players to sustain a system like this We will create them. The toughest part will be tippy toeing around the fragile egos everyone has. World of hurt
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1729	Posted - 2015.03.08 15:04:00 - [20] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: I am seeking advice and ideas. Here's a few things I want to incorporate. A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night. I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books. I would need some nerds to monitor stats. Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well. 3 man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you. I have other thoughts but can wait. I could use some feed back. So: you want t create a competitive corp, in this game the only "competitive" (lol) thing is PC. So you want to create a competitive PC corp. Now: PC players already have a corp or would rather join a corp they already know to be a good corp. I, myself, would not join a self proclaimed "competitive PC corp". So you need to find players that are not already in PC or that are quite new to it. Creating a completely new team with unexperienced players will bring you to loose a lot of PCs. Losing a lot and enstablishing a dictatorship will bring you to lose a lot of players. All that being said: you cant create what you want to create atm. Also: what is your experience in PC? One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!

Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 588	Posted - 2015.03.08 15:18:00 - [21] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: I am seeking advice and ideas. Here's a few things I want to incorporate. A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night. I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books. I would need some nerds to monitor stats. Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well. 3 man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you. I have other thoughts but can wait. I could use some feed back. So: you want t create a competitive corp, in this game the only "competitive" (lol) thing is PC. So you want to create a competitive PC corp. Now: PC players already have a corp or would rather join a corp they already know to be a good corp. I, myself, would not join a self proclaimed "competitive PC corp". So you need to find players that are not already in PC or that are quite new to it. Creating a completely new team with unexperienced players will bring you to loose a lot of PCs. Losing a lot and enstablishing a dictatorship will bring you to lose a lot of players. All that being said: you cant create what you want to create atm. Also: what is your experience in PC? The corp itself would be competitive. The only slot that is subject to daily change is low man. Everyone else has a chance to secure a position by being active and doing well. PC would be a decision made by current members. If they want to attack and take something, more power to them. while it is true I can't create this atm, it's not for any reasons you'd know about. My PC experience is limited to ringing. I won't name drop but I've fought the best. World of hurt
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6580	Posted - 2015.03.08 15:22:00 - [22] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO This.
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 588	Posted - 2015.03.08 15:24:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: you will never succeed judging on your entire approach to being a corp CEO This. Explain. World of hurt
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 589	Posted - 2015.03.08 15:58:00 - [24] - Quote Big Burns wrote: (No Comment). Why? World of hurt
Ahkhomi Cypher Opus Arcana 660	Posted - 2015.03.08 19:43:00 - [25] - Quote Example situation time Lets pretend like I'm your best guy for like 3 months. Then one day i have to drive my parents to get their seasonal checkups at the doctor. Would i get booted for missing a PC that day? If i do get booted why would i reup with you and not another corp? No Skill Required
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 595	Posted - 2015.03.08 19:56:00 - [26] - Quote Ahkhomi Cypher wrote: Example situation time Lets pretend like I'm your best guy for like 3 months. Then one day i have to drive my parents to get their seasonal checkups at the doctor. Would i get booted for missing a PC that day? If i do get booted why would i reup with you and not another corp? Would you prefer us to fight a man down? What if you hired a place holder for that day? It's not really getting booted. It's more like not earning your keep. If your good a day off shouldn't affect you. I don't see why you couldn't get the 16th slot the next day. Turn over will be grotesque for a few weeks. I may just slow the process until more people get acquainted with the idea. World of hurt
Archduke Ferd1nand Nos Nothi 159	Posted - 2015.03.08 20:00:00 - [27] - Quote Id recommend you get good first. BRB, looking for socks Asslut Rifles OP, anal now I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
Mad Kras Dead Man's Game RUST415 197	Posted - 2015.03.08 20:07:00 - [28] - Quote Proto Annihilator wrote: I am seeking advice and ideas. Here's a few things I want to incorporate. A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night. I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books. I would need some nerds to monitor stats. Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well. 3 man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you. I have other thoughts but can wait. I could use some feed back. First of all git gud Arrogance and sarcasm lvl 5
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 597	Posted - 2015.03.08 20:11:00 - [29] - Quote Archduke Ferd1nand wrote: Id recommend you get good first. How good? Should I be trying to reach some magic number for kills or WP? World of hurt
DIX RFOR CHICKS T.U.R.D. R.O.C.K. 75	Posted - 2015.03.08 20:11:00 - [30] - Quote Pagl1u M wrote: Proto Annihilator wrote: I am seeking advice and ideas. Here's a few things I want to incorporate. A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night. I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books. I would need some nerds to monitor stats. Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well. 3 man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you. I have other thoughts but can wait. I could use some feed back. So: you want t create a competitive corp, in this game the only "competitive" (lol) thing is PC. So you want to create a competitive PC corp. Now: PC players already have a corp or would rather join a corp they already know to be a good corp. I, myself, would not join a self proclaimed "competitive PC corp". So you need to find players that are not already in PC or that are quite new to it. Creating a completely new team with unexperienced players will bring you to loose a lot of PCs. Losing a lot and enstablishing a dictatorship will bring you to lose a lot of players. All that being said: you cant create what you want to create atm. Also: what is your experience in PC? Very good points. Case in point : Look at HVLP. They amassed alot of talent but no one had really played together to see if they mesh. Then a couple of ROFL Stomps by CapAcQ and HVLP imploded. Same thing happened the first time to them.

Damodred Matari Heavy Support INC 38	Posted - 2015.03.08 20:39:00 - [31] - Quote How not to make a competitive Corporation. 1) A roster that changes daily. Payouts favoring active skilled players. Poor performance or attitude will be grounds for removal. Low man gets cut every night. 2) I want 16. I think I will have to have 23 but open to suggestions. I want it to mean something to be on the books. I would need some nerds to monitor stats. 3) Possibly a vote system for PC and allies. This would include which contracts we take as well. 4) Three man squads for pubs. We will have a slot open every night. So pubs will serve as evaluations. If you can't stomp in a smaller squad or help with corp structure I wouldn't need you. 5) I could use some feed back. It also needs pointing out that what console people consider competitive is completely different to what a PC masterrace person would consider competitive. Dust by all accounts is and never will have a competitive. Most console games are not, literally nearly all of them. Rekt. Now for some proper 2160 no scoped advice. You need to have a group of people who you have played with for a long time to truly do well or at least people who have played the game for a long time. They need to have the attitude of someone who cares about winning and not personal gains. Anyone who is caught hiding or trying to 'salvage' their k/d should be booted immediately and especially on console. This is something that shouldnt matter on console either. K/D only truly matters with competitive brackets and matchmaking. Both of which do not exist in dust in the fundamental sense. For most console games there are no competitive brackets or at least not any proper ones. K/D means nothing 99.99% of the time on console beyond delusional scrubs who think they are competitive when they have never even played on a competitive level and wouldn't be able to handle it for that matter. Most don't even have a decent enuogh connection to even qulaify for competititve play. It all depends on what you want to make your corp like at the end of the day but you'd be wasting your time trying to do anything competitive in a game where competitive level play does not even exist. The most you could achieve is a wannabe try hard corp. In all honesty, competititve play is pretty crap and a game becomes a side job. It is nothing amazing and requires a lot of dedication. The kind of dedication where you could get a degree in such time..... I am Beast Gameplay1 jr's real brother, not Beast Gameplay1 jr H'renk Bomborass


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