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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:26:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's just a very tiny bonus when you have Sharpshooter 5 Makes a world of difference to me when im doing hipfire battles at mid range.
The only weapons I use are the Plasma Rifles, Plasma Cannons ion pistol and every blue moon the Shotgun.
World of difference is not the phrase I'd use for it at all. Maybe my experience with it is different because I've handled the weapon since closed beta and its the only rifle I've used in this game so I'm used to it but its not that huge of a performance change to say "a world of difference" especially when you've already got sharpshooter to 5.
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:42:00 -
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It's be dlfinenif the assault bonus was for increasing the trait of the Races main assault rifles already excelling performance but its not.
The Caldari and Gallente bonus suffer the same thing. The bonus applies to an attribute its somewhat decent with already.
Whereas the Amarr and Minmatar bonus take away a major drawback of that races main assault weapon. That's a textbook example of unfair.
If we were to have it that way then the AR would get much longer range and the Rail Rifle would get a damage boost. Yay, no drawbacks to weapons!
I've said it before and I plan on making a post about it latter tonight. Neutralizing a weapons intended drawback especially when it doesn't have that many drawbacks is not a good way to go about this game when done carelessly.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.03.09 00:30:00 -
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For rifles it's supposed to be the king of CQC.
You're arguing semantics now fizzer.
Yes the Gallente assault rifle is supposed to be the best CQC rifle out of all racial rifles in the game.
Only an idiot would argue what's being supposed. That's like saying "The Rail rifle isn't supposed to be the king of Long Range combat. That's the sniper rifles job!" no ****.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:21:00 -
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To be fair DeadlyAztec11's proposal is on the OP side.
I'm driving back home so I should be able to make my planned commentary on assault rifle bonuses as a whole and my reply to this thread.
Just let it be known know
Combat Rifle - annoying but balanced from what I can tell.
Combat Rifle +Minmatar Assault bonus -Textbook OP status.
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:52:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:To be fair DeadlyAztec11's proposal is on the OP side.
I'm driving back home so I should be able to make my planned commentary on assault rifle bonuses as a whole and my reply to this thread.
Just let it be known know
Combat Rifle - annoying but balanced from what I can tell.
Combat Rifle +Minmatar Assault bonus -Textbook OP status. How does 13 more rounds make a weapon OP? Its a huge bonus. But the AR has a larger damage per magazine than the ACR+Minassault anyway, so it doesn't make it OP really.
High RoF weapon, good range, High DPS, low resource weapon all that but with a big mag size = OP.
Most of the time extremely High RoF, High DPS weapons are balanced by their short range but have large mag size.
You can also swap out mag size for range though and it stays fairly balanced in most FPSs.
The Minmatar Assaults bonus throws away the weapons one major flaw turning it from a deathly hit and run weapon into a consistent death beam.
But ill address it further in my thread.
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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Sgt Kirk
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Posted - 2015.03.09 05:11:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:
High RoF weapon, good range, High DPS, low resource weapon all that but with a big mag size = OP.
Most of the time extremely High RoF, High DPS weapons are balanced by their short range but have large mag size.
You can also swap out mag size for range though and it stays fairly balanced in most FPSs.
The Minmatar Assaults bonus throws away the weapons one major flaw turning it from a deathly hit and run weapon into a consistent death beam.
But ill address it further in my thread.
You have to compare it against the Scrambler Rifle, Rail Rifle and AR. Against these weapons it is not OP.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=195454&find=unread
As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP
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