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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.08 05:02:00 -
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Many people have said it is not noticeable. Maybe if you are just casually firing a few last shots to kill a target then it is not noticeable.
Though, when you are hipfiring a strafing scout who has a shotgun then it is imperative to have it equipped to land headshots. Especially with the Tactical AR which has terrible dispersion at any range that isn't point blank. It's also the only way to actually get hipfire shots from the Ion Pistol on target.
Anyone that says it's a useless skill has no idea what they are talking about and I am appalled at anyone trying to strip it of its skill.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:07:00 -
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abdullah muzaffar wrote:Logged in on my alt today(2.5m unalloc)
Tried out the ar, sucked(bonus only good for tac, which sucks compared to scr)
Skilled into rr, and kept killing protos left and right
Done with basic/mlt stuff.
All the ar needs now is an optimal range buff.
Not skilled into sidearms though.
The AR's don't need any type of range buff because they aren't meant to fight at those ranges. Instead it needs 2x Damage from 0-5m, 1.5x damage from 5-10m and 1.2x damage from 10-15m
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:52:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:I see it as equivalent to a forward grip and compensator that you'd see in other games...
So yeah, useful.
Not as obvious as the Amarr or Minmatar ones, but just as useful in terms of actual advantages it provides.
It's definitely noticeable. How does someone not notice 25% less recoil and dispersion?
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:53:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:It's just a very tiny bonus when you have Sharpshooter 5
They stack.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:23:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:I see it as equivalent to a forward grip and compensator that you'd see in other games...
So yeah, useful.
Not as obvious as the Amarr or Minmatar ones, but just as useful in terms of actual advantages it provides. It's definitely noticeable. How does someone not notice 25% less recoil and dispersion? Because there's practically no recoil or dispersion in the first place, especially with core skills trained? The plasma rifle has never had recoil problems and hipfire with sharpshooter 5 is already very tight.
Still, it is very noticeable.
Maybe I've played too much COD but the perk that reduced hipfire was about the same as the Gallente skill.
I mean when you are back peddling from a scout or heavy don't you ever find that hipfire is imperative?
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.09 00:49:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:For rifles it's supposed to be the king of CQC.
You're arguing semantics now fizzer.
Yes the Gallente assault rifle is supposed to be the best CQC rifle out of all racial rifles in the game.
Only an idiot would argue what's being supposed. That's like saying "The Rail rifle isn't supposed to be the king of Long Range combat. That's the sniper rifles job!" no ****. Well the way people make it sound is as if they think the AR should be the best weapon to use bar none in the 0-15m range...
Except we always say it should be the CQC king of Rifles.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It doesn't compare to the Amarr and Minmatar bonuses. Lowering heat buildup increases the power of Amarrian weapons greatly, while the Minmatar ones allow you to finish an opponent with less reloads.
Caldari get a Commando bonus and we get a Sharpshooter bonus? Please.
It's so useful though against strafers!
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:17:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:
Almost nobody clarifies that, and I doubt that is what many are actually thinking.
They almost always just say "the AR should be King of CQC", pretty much word for word...
Look at DeadlyAztec11s proposed buff, as an example. The thing would outclass shotguns, and do 900-1000 DPS at 5m.
So excuse me for getting a completely different reading from people than you do...
Those are faux numbers to show the concept. In actuality it would be more like:
1.15x from 0-5m
1.10x from 5-10m
1.05x from 10-15m
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:23:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:To be fair DeadlyAztec11's proposal is on the OP side.
I'm driving back home so I should be able to make my planned commentary on assault rifle bonuses as a whole and my reply to this thread.
Just let it be known know
Combat Rifle - annoying but balanced from what I can tell.
Combat Rifle +Minmatar Assault bonus -Textbook OP status.
How does 13 more rounds make a weapon OP?
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:03:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
High RoF weapon, good range, High DPS, low resource weapon all that but with a big mag size = OP.
Most of the time extremely High RoF, High DPS weapons are balanced by their short range but have large mag size.
You can also swap out mag size for range though and it stays fairly balanced in most FPSs.
The Minmatar Assaults bonus throws away the weapons one major flaw turning it from a deathly hit and run weapon into a consistent death beam.
But ill address it further in my thread.
You have to compare it against the Scrambler Rifle, Rail Rifle and AR. Against these weapons it is not OP.
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