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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.07 20:26:00 -
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Could we please have this also include a reset to our current character's racial faction and bloodline information.
When I first created my account I only knew a little information on the eve universe and after playing for a while and becoming more interested in the lore (which as far as I understand is exactly what ccp were interested in doing when creating this game)
I found myself in the predicament of having created a gallente character when I would rather be a caldari merc. I also cant stand the gallente office personally.
I would even settle for knowing this would be an option if and when we move our characters over to project legion.
And I understand a few people here might argue that the lore of the universe wont allow such a change or the Skill tree is just a reset and not a complete overhaul and restart for a character but what I'm suggesting is simple edit to a database entry which is easy to do, its not harming anyone or anything in the community and is another feature that would keep me and others in the same situation happy as well as give me a reason to GIVE CCP MORE MONEY.
I honestly don't know why CCP don't implement a host of options like these in there store in dust and eve, its hurting their pockets which in turn is hurting their own self investment in their games causing their games to suffer. |
Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.07 21:32:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:I don't see why not, not like the headquarters of CCP care much about us anyway.
See its exactly statements like that that CCP should be taking note of. Its occurred to me that a lot of the community who play this game and may go on to play legion are left with a constant list of gameplay features, bugs or changes they feel very unhappy with.
dispite the players being passionate about this game CCP don't give much feedback on posts and the opinions of the community, players who have been very VERY patient with CCP and really do want to see this game life up to the potential it can be (just look at the dust 514 trailer again) |
Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:49:00 -
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Green Living wrote:We been asking for this option for 2 years. Good luck.
First off I REALLY like the corp name :D
Second I know, 2 years of asking for features that every other MMO style game with large skill trees have as standard. I just don't get it?? CCP are throwing away an avenue of making money they can reinvest in their own game and cause it to grow to be the game we all deserve.
I'm honestly dumbfounded every single time I consider this.
CCP
Brilliant game concepts.
An original take on an MMO.
The drive and talent to push themselves to build a game noone has made before.
Frankly no brains when it comes to growing an established game community.
Literally no concept of well established MMO shop options for users.
They've allready done what other company's haven't, They've ignored every good thing other games company's have done
drives me mad so it does, who's running the show over there?
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:00:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Apocalyptic Destroyer wrote:I want Amarr Race so badly. I'm all 100% Amarr except for my quarters and the pic you can email support and they will change you to an amarr quarters
Heard they dont do that anymore
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.09 03:06:00 -
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DRT 99 wrote:
not a huge fan of my lack of face though. seems like an obvious oversight.
If you have a face the enemy can shoot it?? an unbeatable strategy.
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Posted - 2015.03.09 15:48:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Can't you just be a defective Gallente who likes the caldari?
But the office and the suit are pissing me off, asides from the sure i guess. but why would i still be wearing their armour?
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.09 21:48:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:After some discussion with a GM, I learned that there are no mechanics to change the race or gender of an account, even with a ticket, literally not possible I was informed not by policy but by limitations of the system.
I can understand they don't want to do it but that cannot be anything more then a lie.
All character information for each account would be stored in a database with entry's controlling character race, bloodline information stored as single number digits or strings, something that when accessed upon logging in dictate what office to load, and what race/bloodline information your character has, what basic default suits to load in for suit loadout's.
there is no other standard used for storing character information on large scale MMO like this.
In order to change an entry like this you just send a single string order to the database and it does it for you.
the fact that they have done it in the past also makes me question the validity of this GM's statement.
just to clarify where I'm coming from I am a games designer and programmer who has built several databases in his time.
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.09 22:53:00 -
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I and many other GAMERS playing this game were introduced to it as a free to play FPS linked to an MMO. an interesting take on a game never seen before. not everyone does their research first or indeed should have to.
Agreed, It is pointless to point out what I and many other GAMERS could have done, we sit where we are now.
You haven't stated why it would be a mistake to introduce the option other then "that's just how ccp works"
You stated that PLAYERS from eve have just had to "deal with it"
The character I play has is connected to me as a PLAYER, He should be what I choose him to be, his office should be the office I would want him to have.
You might have noticed I hi-lighted many words like PLAYER or GAMER. this is to emphasise there is a massive diffrenece between the characters in a game and the actual people behind them, something that you and CCP obviously have no grasp of whatsoever.
this is a GAME, giving the PLAYER control and options over how they play the game KEEPS THEM HAPPY. happy gamers (especially in free to play games) spend money and invest in your product, they also KEEP PLAYING. this grows the player base (In an MMO that's your number one priority or your left with a massive empty game)
PLAYERS shouldn't have to "deal with" the lack of options given to them by the developers of a game. they ether like it or they walk away
HELL you yourself have stated "I could not play this game if I hadn't a vested interest in the lore and the race" There is clearly something WRONG with a game if a player is making a statement like that.
CCP's attitude towards there game is what's wrong, there making it for themself's and not making it for the gamers who play it, that that my friend is breaking the first rule of games design right there.
but at the end of the day I'm just a gamer asking for a HARMLESS feature I would pay money for because it would make me happy to make the character I want to play as in a game I enjoy (inspite of CCP treating me like crap). screw me right. I'm clearly asking for too much.
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.09 23:41:00 -
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And there's nothing wrong with believing that but at the end of the day this is a game, players with that believe have allway's and will allways be in the minority and CCP are hurting both dust and eve growth of player base and financial earnings by enforcing a roleplaying rule on the operation of their gaming franchise.
It exists in every other form of online MMO community BECAUSE its what the players want, quite frankly I have invested time and money in my character in dust and if I want to change some of his features (AND IT DOESN'T HARM ANY OTHER PLAYER PLAYING)
I shouldn't have to scrap my entire skill tree, time and money i've invested in a character just to change his fricken office and default race/ bloodline information
You do realise how completely insane it sounds for a developer to enforce such a stupid rule as this?
is it any wonder EVE and DUST 514 have both struggled to grow their playerbase.
So i'll state it clear for you to understand, you cant justify having no full character resets in the shop because eve does it,or because the lore dictates it, it is an incredibly stupid decision to make in a video game and CCP's approach in this and many other design decisions is why eve and dust both suffer from players leaving after a short time playing, players not spending a penny on content, players not even wanting to play the game in the first place.
Its just dumb.
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 00:04:00 -
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Those things are not important to you but there important to me, I don't like the office I'm loaded into and if i'ma merc should I not be able to pick my office
put the feature in the game, you have to "deal with it"
leave the feature out of the game, I have to "deal with it"
however having the feature in the game gets CCP more money to invest in their game, grows its playerbase and makes more people happy then unhappy.
your just being unreasonable now.
Why not give every player in the game a SINGLE reset on each character, they can only use it once that that's it. WOULD THAT SATISFY YOU??
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 00:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cypher Nil wrote:Those things are not important to you but there important to me, I don't like the office I'm loaded into and if i'ma merc should I not be able to pick my office
put the feature in the game, you have to "deal with it"
leave the feature out of the game, I have to "deal with it"
however having the feature in the game gets CCP more money to invest in their game, grows its playerbase and makes more people happy then unhappy.
your just being unreasonable now. How so. I'm simply defending the current status quo that we adopted from EVE online when this game was actually intended to join into the universe that have. -No respecs -No name changes -No Race or Bloodline Changes The office thing I get, still not sure why we can't change any more since we were allowed to previously, though I think someone buried the code in one of the builds. This game was supposed to be one where the choices you made had lasting repercussions and meant something, not things you could simply pay to wipe the slate clean of. The issue I have is why do you even need to change, you can fight for the Caldari now if you wish, having a Gallentean character does not change this.
You can allready respec your skill tree in dust 514 and they have no stance to remove this, why stop players from also editing their character info??
they got tired of editing players details threw tickets i think, for whatever reason it sounds like a lot of the development team don't like to touch the code, that shows a lack of understand of it, which is a MASSIVE cause for concern.
I want to change the character to caldari so my login picture, forum picture, default frames and office all reflect the character I want to play in the EVE universe, its the EXACT same reason you researched and planned out your character creation, I just had the misfortune of having fun playing the game for months before looking up the lore and gaining an interest in the EVE universe
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 00:46:00 -
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Cypher Nil wrote:Why not give every player in the game a SINGLE reset on each character, they can only use it once that that's it. would this compromise satisfy you??
You also didn't answer my question, this seems perfectly reasonable and fair to everyone
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Cypher Nil wrote:Cypher Nil wrote:Why not give every player in the game a SINGLE reset on each character, they can only use it once that that's it. would this compromise satisfy you?? You also didn't answer my question, this seems perfectly reasonable and fair to everyone That still fundamentally undermines the purpose of choosing and locking in these decisions not to mention opens it open to future abuse when people start complaining about how they never got the option to respec their races, etc. Also bear in mind I believe when you create a character you data is saved on the tranquillity server so any alterations to that have to be done server side making the process difficult for CCP.
Your just not interested in making the playerbase happy are you?
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:06:00 -
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BTW a few years ago I made a large mistake in my skill tree (missunderstood the skill bonus's due to poor wording on CCP's part) and after submitting a ticket and explaining how the mistake occurred to one of their representatives they happily reset my skill tree to the day before giving me my SP back.
So please don't give me excuses about sticking to lore, dealing with mistakes made on accounts. this is still a video game and its suppose to entertain and bring happiness to people. not frustration and unhappiness. give the players what they want, stuff your rules m8
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:
To some degree I don't want CCP to pander to pander to our whims. New Eden isn't supposed to be a casual experience, its supposed to be difficult, harsh, and amoral requiring more of the average gamer.
On the other hand I know Dust needs a steady revenue stream and player base but I would suggest this requires the game to be fished and fleshed out as a whole in more important areas like core content, game modes, PvE, performance.
Not in areas like this were they further seek to monetize the game and trivialise the core design concepts that attracted the player base.
I get where your coming from and doing every little single thing the playerbase wants WILL cause a game to fall apart.
I also get that New Eden isn't suppose to be a casual experience but thinking that making a game really serious and capable of catering to the casual players cant go hand in hand is, I think, one of the largest mistakes CCP has ever made, all of there games draw in serious gamers and that's perfect but Its an MMO universe, you HAVE to populate it with casual average gamers as well. or you end up with the situation we have now, a game that deserves a half a million players a day is just getting 30-40K at a time.
That does not mean ruining the experience for all the serious gamers, it simply means creating game space to cater for the casual's AND keeping things up to scratch for the serious gamers.
noone's going to be respeccing themselves every few weeks like you say if it costs 20-30 dollars to do so.
And what i think is hurting the growth of the games aren't rules like this or even gameplay, its CCP's complete disregard for helping new players get started, with starting a game in eve being akin to dropping a tadpole in a shark tank and dusts lack of tutorial or new players arena the games just drive off new players
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:34:00 -
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Demon souls: Been ages since i've completed it but can still go back now and enjoy its gameplay.
Dark souls One: I've a character on level 500 and completed a full Onebro run myself.
Dark souls Two: I've a character on level 680 or so, All dlc cleared and currently doing a no death, no bonfire run
Waiting for bloodbourns release before decided to play it.
Darkest Dungeon, Have it and taking a break from overplaying it, great experiense.
We clearly like the same styles of games. but you know it occurs to me, I personally felt that dark souls II was easier then the title before, they stated that they were making it more accessible to other players and I had my fears but in the end I was very happy with it, Prefer it to dark souls I but I like dark souls I's lore better. I was happy for the active server and increase in the player base despite the changes they made to make it a more accessible game.
Overall it improved. I feel that eve and dust could do with the same treatment. what about you?
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Cypher Nil
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Posted - 2015.03.10 05:03:00 -
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O I know that, I mean the default free suits I get, there all gallente and as I use a all Caldari gear I have my shield bonus at +5, this doesn't apply well to free suits.
if I've died enough in a match or were getting smashed I switch to my free suits to conserve ISK. its a pain I have to gear up in gallente gear.
I'm all for preserving the concept of living with the chooses you make in the eve universe but there is a very thin line between having a player live with there choise's and punishing a player for a mistake they've made on there account.
there just HAS to be a solution that solves this AND keeps the eve concept alive as well.
@CCP give every created account a single character trait reset they can use once on that accounts lifetime.
RIOT games makes use of a similar system for players accounts allowing a player to refund a purchase on there store for free up to a maximum of three times on that accounts full lifetime.
Its fair and gives a single opportunity for a player to be forgiven a mistake they have made on there account without completely changing the lore or eve universe rules for the players.
were only human afterall
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