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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:10:00 -
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When a gun overcharges you're forced to wait until it cools down. Completely unrealistic, I'd drop that crap and go for the secondary or chuck it at the enemy and run like hell! Along with that, you can't even run when it does that, just slowly walking.
Overcharging assault rifles in a futuristic styled FPS, no option for improving the system either. I won't need more bullets for my gun if I die waiting for it to cool down devs.
Just a note: I probably wouldn't have to worry about this if you devs fix the freakin' matchmaking, that way I don't have to put an entire clip into a freakin' vet player.
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:15:00 -
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Ascr?
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:23:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ascr?
idkwtm
(I don't know what that means)
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:35:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ascr? idkwtm (I don't know what that means)
Assault Scrambler Rifle
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:54:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ascr? idkwtm (I don't know what that means) Assault Scrambler Rifle
Any gun that has that overcharge. Assault Scrambler Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun.(Yes, I have literally shot enough rounds at vets to cause it to overcharge.)
I could just use another gun, in fact, I do. Seeing how the Forge Gun or Sniper Rifle(Headshots only) are the only useful things against vets and it's either the ascr,etc or that cr I think, with the scope? Semi-auto bs.. I like sights. Hard to aim with iron sights in this game. Pfft..these futuristic aliens are dumb..where's the human tech?
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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Stormblade Green
KnightKiller's inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:10:00 -
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Sorry but please become more skilled before actually trying to call for a buff or nerf. Or removal.
One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:22:00 -
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Stormblade Green wrote:Sorry but please become more skilled before actually trying to call for a buff or nerf. Or removal.
I didn't even ask for anything to be buffed, nerfed or removed you derp, I asked for the ability to switch weapons and to be able to run during gun overcharge. L2R plz
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:40:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Stormblade Green wrote:Sorry but please become more skilled before actually trying to call for a buff or nerf. Or removal. I didn't even ask for anything to be buffed, nerfed or removed you derp, I asked for the ability to switch weapons and to be able to run during gun overcharge. L2R plz
That is a buff.
If sieze times didn't have the restrictions they currently do, many of the weapon switch sieze times would be OP.
He read correctly.
Learn to not act like a spoiled child, plz
Home at Last <3
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 03:35:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Learn to not act like a spoiled child, plz
That bit was unnecessary. But idgaf if it's OP or not, you want fairness? Explain to me how a Veteran player versus a Newb player fresh out of the Academy is fair. This game needs more OP guns if the devs want it like that. Gun that insta-kills everytime no matter armor or shield and with no delay/charge time, now THAT would be fun and abused like hell, but hey, that way both vets AND newbs enjoy the game.
Learn to not be selfish brats Stormblade Green and Fizzer XCIV! Other people play this too!
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.06 03:43:00 -
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Overheating (not over charging) is a mechanic that balances weaponry so that powerful weapons aren't over powered, and people who learn how to manage the heating are able to do some serious damage.
Removal of any of the mechanics could force the nerf of the weapons.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.03.06 03:57:00 -
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Simply conserve your shot. Be more disciplined when you fire, don't over charge even if it means you target gets away.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 04:14:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Overheating (not over charging) is a mechanic that balances weaponry so that powerful weapons aren't over powered, and people who learn how to manage the heating are able to do some serious damage.
Removal of any of the mechanics could force the nerf of the weapons.
"Serious Damage" pffft...haha, not in this present day matchmaking unless it's with a Forge Gun or Sniper. Feel free to prove me wrong if you're an expert. Go on, go create a new char and after Academy record your gameplay using only the ASR/SR, show me this "Serious Damage" you speak of when you're fighting against a vet.
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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DJINN Jecture
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries
Immortals of War
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Posted - 2015.03.06 05:03:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:Ascr? idkwtm (I don't know what that means) Assault Scrambler Rifle Any gun that has that overcharge. Assault Scrambler Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, Heavy Machine Gun.(Yes, I have literally shot enough rounds at vets to cause it to overcharge.) I could just use another gun, in fact, I do. Seeing how the Forge Gun or Sniper Rifle(Headshots only) are the only useful things against vets and it's either the ascr,etc or that cr I think, with the scope? Semi-auto bs.. I like sights. Hard to aim with iron sights in this game. Pfft..these futuristic aliens are dumb..where's the human tech?
I agree. The overheat issues are unrealistic. As a Vet (Closed Beta) I can understand your concern after doing much the same with every other volley of HMG, ASCR and Laser pew balloons. If the weapon overheats we should be able to switch to the secondary and not be locked into holding a glowing piece of dog poo that doesn't function.
The issue is that sometimes you just don't have time to let the weapon cool off, it is not ok to be left vulnerable because highly advanced engineers can't figure out how to put a cooling mechanism onto a Laser Rifle, ASCR or HMG but they can figure out how to put a chip in our heads to transfer our consciousnesses when we die... 
--I am a Free Agent for Hire--
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Sergei Domar
Rautaleijona
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Posted - 2015.03.06 12:59:00 -
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My solution
You overheat weapon, you get 2 choices
1) Wait it to cool off, like current mechanism
2) PANICMOVE, toss heated gun away , switch to another weapon. Current weapon gets destroyed as it's thrown away. (Let's just say that without proper procedure to cool it down, it melts permanently)
Now after using option 2 you could shoot the almost dead hostile with your secondary weapon and you are alive after, but you no longer have cooked off weapon in your items, you have to go resupply at supply to get that weapon back.
Not so overpowered as you need to sacrifice your main weapon there until you can get new one and tossing and switching should take some time, but still should have clear advantage over just waiting weapon to cool down. Greatest chance would be in 1v1 fights where you cooked off gun and hostile is coming for you. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.03.06 16:39:00 -
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LOL no, every heard of realism buddy?
Notice your weapon vanishes the instant you put it away and swap to something else, this is called hammerspace (look it up you noobcakes). Now imagine you decide to take this super-heated HMG or ScR and put it in your hammerspace and swap to your other weapon, now everything else in hammerspace is going to cook, ammunition reloads will cook off since heat doesn't dissipate, your grenades go off, your nanohives and derplinks melt and fuse with everything, and the next time you open hammerspace and swap back all of a suden a mushroom cloud of molten metal and fire blows out of your body, vaporizes your hand and leaves a twelve kilometer smoking crater where you used to stand, with nothing remaining but your blackened face with your pearly whites staring in shock before you collapse into ash.
Sounds stupidly unsafe? Well, it is, and it will unlife you faster then you can say pubtrash.
Get Gud
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:24:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:LOL no, every heard of realism buddy?
Notice your weapon vanishes the instant you put it away and swap to something else, this is called hammerspace
Have you ever heard of realism, who would take the time to put it in their parachute pants yelling "Stop" instead of throwing it over their shoulder? Don't bs me with the heat either, first of all they're clones, do they even feel? secondly they have futuristic armor and shields and in any case, the guns cool down automatically, you don't need to hold them.
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:33:00 -
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Did you just take my hammerspace comment about realism seriously?
I'm sorry, I hope your day improves.
Anywho, the real issue here is Game Balance trumps realism. It's just a "balance" mechanic to reward skill and not shooting mindlessly with a particular weapon.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Kinyuhk Goluhh
Legion of the Corrupted
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:47:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Anywho, the real issue here is Game Balance trumps realism. It's just a "balance" mechanic to reward skill and not shooting mindlessly with a particular weapon.
Copy pasta:
"Go create a new char and after Academy record your gameplay using only the Assault Scrambler Rifle/Scrambler Rifle, show me this "Skill" you speak of when you're fighting against a vet."
"I don't suck! Scotty the matchmaking AI does for putting newbs in games with veterans!"
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Ku Shala
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:55:00 -
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did you try not overheating? the overheat stuns you thats why you cant run or switch its the penalty for having high dps,alpha and range on the scr and high high dps and clip on the hmg.
my face broke when my airbag went off when I crashed into a tree, you need to change where trees are.
-¦a+ó a+ú-Æa+äla+ä (CK-0 Specialist)
Caldari Loyalist
Superior technology will privale.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2015.03.06 18:03:00 -
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Kinyuhk Goluhh wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Anywho, the real issue here is Game Balance trumps realism. It's just a "balance" mechanic to reward skill and not shooting mindlessly with a particular weapon. Copy pasta: "Go create a new char and after Academy record your gameplay using only the Assault Scrambler Rifle/Scrambler Rifle, show me this "Skill" you speak of when you're fighting against a vet."
All right, my project ends this Sunday, so I'll create an amarrian alt and do just that, though I'll only play Skirmish as the other two game modes don't appeal to me (especially spambush which is easily broken), I'll post results outside of academy. I don't have recording equipment, but I can easily do pictures of the leaderboard (proving fighting vets) and my KDR screen (shows damage received and dealt as well as the most used suit and weapon).
This will however be a hilariously bad example as I'm used to long range fighting with ScR and RRs, and those are honest-to-god easier to use then the short-ranged-as-hell AR and my newberry Gal alt (literally zero SP spent) has a positive KDR of about 1.5 outside of the academy despite those dreadful limitations. Also back when I wasn't doing vehicles constantly I had over a 6.0 KDR, and despite my goofing off I still have a 4.3 KDR, and no I rarely squad... So if you really want me, of all people, to do this experiment then sure, why the hell not.I even have it down to muscle memory for me at this point on not over heating.
It's called knowing the maps, knowing the mechanics, using cover and not being a loner numbskull. Obvious advantages that totally new players won't have.
See you in a few days! <3
PS: what would you like me to name the alt? This will be fun.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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TooMany Names AlreadyTaken
Going for the gold
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Posted - 2015.03.06 18:08:00 -
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CCP please let me punch people when I overheat my scramblers.
Found my favorite DJ - ATB
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DJINN Jecture
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries
Immortals of War
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Posted - 2015.03.06 19:45:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Did you just take my hammerspace comment about realism seriously?
I'm sorry, I hope your day improves.
Anywho, the real issue here is Game Balance trumps realism. It's just a "balance" mechanic to reward skill and not shooting mindlessly with a particular weapon.
The "balance" of the game would still have a place if the weapon needed to cool down before use but could be switched, rather than stuck in our cold dead fingertips.
--I am a Free Agent for Hire--
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