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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:26:00 -
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Even if you had to take dust down for like 2 months it'd still be worth it.. Dusts potential is too great to leave it on PS3.. You did what you could with this system but it's time to move on to the next gen..Less lag and frame rate issues, bigger battles, better terrain and graphics, if it gets big enough you could combine all the maps into 1..There's not a lot of good games on ps4 so now would be a great chance to take advantage of that and get more players
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:31:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Even if you had to take dust down for like 2 months it'd still be worth it.. Dusts potential is too great to leave it on PS3.. You did what you could with this system but it's time to move on to the next gen..Less lag and frame rate issues, bigger battles, better terrain and graphics, if it gets big enough you could combine all the maps into 1..There's not a lot of good games on ps4 so now would be a great chance to take advantage of that and get more players
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:33:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Even if you had to take dust down for like 2 months it'd still be worth it.. Dusts potential is too great to leave it on PS3.. You did what you could with this system but it's time to move on to the next gen..Less lag and frame rate issues, bigger battles, better terrain and graphics, if it gets big enough you could combine all the maps into 1..There's not a lot of good games on ps4 so now would be a great chance to take advantage of that and get more players
As much as many of us wish this would happen, it just won't. CCP is too set in their ways. No amount of Ps4 port threads will change that.
Be the mercenary of tomorrow, today. Go beyond with Aurum!
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:38:00 -
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cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4 |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.03.06 00:53:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4
Makes since.. But still something needs to be done, to think a game will grow on a system this old is just stupid.
So maybe keep dust going and actually comment about legion? Which we all figure has been scrapped.
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FLAYLOCK Steve
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.06 01:16:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4 Makes since.. But still something needs to be done, to think a game will grow on a system this old is just stupid. So maybe keep dust going and actually comment about legion? Which we all figure has been scrapped.
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kennyboy2
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:24:00 -
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Well they could add some code and make it crossplatform. They already let eve piolets talk. They could slowly transfer it to the ps4. The characters are stored on their servers. It would be a big update but the ps3 clientele is eventually going to disapear. Tho they are more likely to make it a pc game. No contract with sony that way. |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:28:00 -
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kennyboy2 wrote:Well they could add some code and make it crossplatform. They already let eve piolets talk. They could slowly transfer it to the ps4. The characters are stored on their servers. It would be a big update but the ps3 clientele is eventually going to disapear. Tho they are more likely to make it a pc game. No contract with sony that way.
I'm fine with that too.. But I see people on pc less likely to play it due to so many other games being out
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DJINN Jecture
Tribal Band Dust Mercenaries
Immortals of War
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Posted - 2015.03.06 04:41:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Even if you had to take dust down for like 2 months it'd still be worth it.. Dusts potential is too great to leave it on PS3.. You did what you could with this system but it's time to move on to the next gen..Less lag and frame rate issues, bigger battles, better terrain and graphics, if it gets big enough you could combine all the maps into 1..There's not a lot of good games on ps4 so now would be a great chance to take advantage of that and get more players
No...port DUST:514 to Computer...One Client to Rule them all...One Subscription to Rule them all. Ditch the Free to Pay to Win model.
One Launcher for Dust/EVE and all under the same subscription base. Plenty of ways to make the game better with the support of a far larger audience.
--I am a Free Agent for Hire--
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Isa Lucifer
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2015.03.06 04:51:00 -
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DJINN Jecture wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Even if you had to take dust down for like 2 months it'd still be worth it.. Dusts potential is too great to leave it on PS3.. You did what you could with this system but it's time to move on to the next gen..Less lag and frame rate issues, bigger battles, better terrain and graphics, if it gets big enough you could combine all the maps into 1..There's not a lot of good games on ps4 so now would be a great chance to take advantage of that and get more players No...port DUST:514 to Computer...One Client to Rule them all...One Subscription to Rule them all. Ditch the Free to Pay to Win model. One Launcher for Dust/EVE and all under the same subscription base. Plenty of ways to make the game better with the support of a far larger audience.
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Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.03.06 05:04:00 -
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Both PS4 and XBOX.
Pit the fanboys against each other and let the momentum carry you to mainstream.
But continue to develop as much as possible until then to have the best launch point on the next version.
EDIT: Also, you would absolutely capitalize on the complete absence of good next gen games. This window won't last forever, good games will eventually come out. Get INB4!
Who cares what some sniper has to say.
**--CCP, let's push for the license of Dust/Legion on both current Gen consoles-
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.03.06 05:46:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Both PS4 and XBOX.
Pit the fanboys against each other and let the momentum carry you to mainstream.
But continue to develop as much as possible until then to have the best launch point on the next version.
EDIT: Also, you would absolutely capitalize on the complete absence of good next gen games. This window won't last forever, good games will eventually come out. Get INB4!
I have both and I'd love it on both.. Tbh I'd play more on Xbox though
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.06 06:02:00 -
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Talos Vagheitan wrote:Both PS4 and XBOX.
Pit the fanboys against each other and let the momentum carry you to mainstream.
But continue to develop as much as possible until then to have the best launch point on the next version.
EDIT: Also, you would absolutely capitalize on the complete absence of good next gen games. This window won't last forever, good games will eventually come out. Get INB4!
Will never happen. Microsoft doesn't allow games on XBox to cross play with other platforms. This is why Dust was not on the 360, CCP offered, Microsoft demanded exclusive access, so CCP said screw you and went with Sony instead.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
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Posted - 2015.03.06 06:09:00 -
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Are this Eve players really that dense?
Dust 514 was created to bring the Eve Universe with all its rich lore and deep gameplay mechanics into consoles un a familiar genre for consoles.
Making Dust/Legion PC only brakes that. Especially the idea of making Dust and Eve under the same launcher is just stupid.
Like I have said in earlier posts. The game WILL die in PC.
PC a lot of better F2P games. Dust/Legion will offer mostly nothing to Eve still outside of FW. And even still.
CCP and the playerbase will have to deal with hackers. Which means Dust/Legion would need a bigger team. And rhe playerbase would have to deal with those tricked out game mouses that lets you do anything in one palm.
Mix all that with the obvious and bound to happen Eve players will almost never play Dust unless a district of theirs is being attacked and the playerbase of Dust/Legion will be similar if not lower to what we have now.
Porting this game to PS4 seems like a more reasonable and better approach. The PS4 has a similar architecture to that of a PC. Meaning developing games is FAR more easier on a PS4 than a PS3. Which is why we are seeing a lot of indie games being released to the PS4. Not only that but console life spam is that of 8-10 years before the next new generation comes. Giving CCP more than enough time to plan porting Dust/Legion to the next Playstation. If they plan letting Dust and Eve live for that long.
I know that you need a PS+ subscription to play online on PS4. But that's it. Only to play online. And that's for the AAA titles like CoD, BF, Destiny. Games like that. You can still access your online functionalities on PS4 without needing a PS+ membership and the PS4's F2P requires no PS+ subscription. Games like Planetside 2, WarFrame, War Thunder, Blacklight you don't need a PS+ subscription to play those. CCP can greatly benefit from that seeing as if people that do not want or are too poor to play for a PS+ subscription, they can simply download Dust/Legion on the PS4 and have at it for free.
Not to mention PS4's Twitch streaming capabilities is basically free publicity for Dust/Legion.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.06 10:31:00 -
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If Dust goes PC, I'd rather play Star Citizen instead... Let's face it, you probably need a decent PC to play Legion. If I have to upgrade anyway (my rig plays SC with very low framerates) I'll not be too tempted to run Legion on it. Star Citizen will have much more content to discover and it will have FPS on the ground and on spaceships....
If Dust/Legion stays on console however, I'd probably stay a happy camper... No money from me until console future is confirmed btw... |
axis alpha
Ahrendee Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.06 10:42:00 -
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Would you buy a steam machine or whatever its called? I remember rumors about that a while ago. Aaaaand the steam console is due this fall.... Just a thought
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.06 10:58:00 -
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axis alpha wrote:Would you buy a steam machine or whatever its called? I remember rumors about that a while ago. Aaaaand the steam console is due this fall.... Just a thought
Not really, since I will stay in the console camp anyway (family) so a gaming PC is more of a luxury than anything...
SC is however looking interesting enough to play it on a PC... Legion is not!
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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2015.03.06 11:40:00 -
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I think if CCP came out with a clear plan to bring this game to PS4 people would invest and spend more money on the game
Legion was (is?) a mistake. Trying to create a whole new experience seems to have gone no where and the lack of communication has done more to erode confidence that this game has a lifespan past the PS3.
If CCP could pull off PS3/PS4 crossplay and then sunset the PS3 over time it would put Dust in a truly unique place in the market.
As we see more and more of our friends move to next gen though we are left wondering if our time and monetary investments in the New Eden FPS are going to amount to anything or disappear quietly in the dark as the PS3 reaches the end of it's lifespan.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2015.03.06 16:59:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:If Dust goes PC, I'd rather play Star Citizen instead... Let's face it, you probably need a decent PC to play Legion. If I have to upgrade anyway (my rig plays SC with very low framerates) I'll not be too tempted to run Legion on it. Star Citizen will have much more content to discover and it will have FPS on the ground and on spaceships....
If Dust/Legion stays on console however, I'd probably stay a happy camper... No money from me until console future is confirmed btw...
This is why pc isn't my first vote, it has too many games out for people to look at dust and say hey that's cool..
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LOOKMOM NOHANDS
Warpoint Sharx
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:45:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:
CCP and the playerbase will have to deal with hackers. Which means Dust/Legion would need a bigger team. And rhe playerbase would have to deal with those tricked out game mouses that lets you do anything in one palm.
Not to mention PS4's Twitch streaming capabilities is basically free publicity for Dust/Legion.
Is this all console gamers can say bad about PC? CCP has been doing Eve Online for like 10 years now and not had any major hacking issues.
Tricked out game mouses? You mean the ones with high DPI and a few programmable buttons? How ever will a gamer come to own a gaming mouse? Oh wait $20 on amazon......
PS4s twitch streaming SUCKS. The quality is lackluster at best. Few options for editing your stream only add to the reasons it is no good. PC on the other hand gives many options on how you want to stream with plenty of ability to make your stream your own.
Give up on console.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.06 17:47:00 -
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Ps4 has no good exclusives. Killzone is good but planet n00b 2 will Fail Hard.
I prefer a MAG on ps4. This way sony can get $$$$$ and not this ****** Planet n00b 2 game.
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GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
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Posted - 2015.03.06 20:26:00 -
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Georgia Xavier
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Posted - 2015.03.08 11:45:00 -
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I'd rather have it ported over to the PC,a much more open opportunities for development lie in wait on the PC rather than the PS4. PS4 hardware are already outdated compared to last Gen pc
How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
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KA24DERT
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:29:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:I'd rather have it ported over to the PC,a much more open opportunities for development lie in wait on the PC rather than the PS4. PS4 hardware are already outdated compared to last Gen pc
I agree that the PC will be a much better development environment than the PS4, especially for a game like Dust which is obviously still in the development phase.
But to say that PS4 is "outdated" is a bit of a stretch. Remember that the PS4 can produce the results it gets because it's not running a general purpose OS, and it has standardized hardware. An identically specced PS4 vs PC battle, the PS4 will win due to those factors.
In my ideal world Dust would coexist on both PC and PS4 following a development/maturation sprint on PC.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:33:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Georgia Xavier wrote:I'd rather have it ported over to the PC,a much more open opportunities for development lie in wait on the PC rather than the PS4. PS4 hardware are already outdated compared to last Gen pc I agree that the PC will be a much better development environment than the PS4, especially for a game like Dust which is obviously still in the development phase. But to say that PS4 is "outdated" is a bit of a stretch. Remember that the PS4 can produce the results it gets because it's not running a general purpose OS, and it has standardized hardware. An identically specced PS4 vs PC battle, the PS4 will win due to those factors. In my ideal world Dust would coexist on both PC and PS4 following a development/maturation sprint on PC.
Progression to PS4 is the logical step from PS3. Even if PC is the superior system, it is far easier to expect PS3 users to buy a PS4 rather than buy a PC. Porting to PC would be a giant "F**k You" to a massive portion of the current playerbase, and that's just wrong.
Now PC and PS4? That would be legit, but if it has to be one or the other, it should be PS4.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:39:00 -
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FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4
Actually it is fair. The install base for the PS4 is growing rapidly and the concurrent users for PS3 is shrinking rapidly.
Now, it may not be pleasant for you, but fair? Completely.
If it were up to me I'd have the game running on both systems with certain game modes only available on PS4, however.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:26:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4 Actually it is fair. The install base for the PS4 is growing rapidly (already hit 20M) and the concurrent users for PS3 is shrinking rapidly. Now, it may not be pleasant for you, but fair? Completely. If it were up to me I'd have the game running on both systems with certain game modes only available on PS4, however.
Considering they're going to stop production of PS3 this year I believe, its safe to say PS3 is on its dying breath. Dual support for some time would be nice, but the game has to migrate OFF of PS3 at some point, otherwise it'll hold back future development.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
www.biomassed.net
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.03.08 22:43:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4 Actually it is fair. The install base for the PS4 is growing rapidly (already hit 20M) and the concurrent users for PS3 is shrinking rapidly. Now, it may not be pleasant for you, but fair? Completely. If it were up to me I'd have the game running on both systems with certain game modes only available on PS4, however. Considering they're going to stop production of PS3 this year I believe, its safe to say PS3 is on its dying breath. Dual support for some time would be nice, but the game has to migrate OFF of PS3 at some point, otherwise it'll hold back future development.
You do realize that Gamestop just started taking PS2s as trade ins because the demand was so high right?
And now you are saying the the PS3 is in its death throes?
I am not buying it.
That being said, they will port Legion for the sake of simplicity before they ever port Dust.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:07:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4 Actually it is fair. The install base for the PS4 is growing rapidly (already hit 20M) and the concurrent users for PS3 is shrinking rapidly. Now, it may not be pleasant for you, but fair? Completely. If it were up to me I'd have the game running on both systems with certain game modes only available on PS4, however. Considering they're going to stop production of PS3 this year I believe, its safe to say PS3 is on its dying breath. Dual support for some time would be nice, but the game has to migrate OFF of PS3 at some point, otherwise it'll hold back future development. You do realize that Gamestop just started taking PS2s as trade ins because the demand was so high right? And now you are saying the the PS3 is in its death throes? I am not buying it. That being said, they will port Legion for the sake of simplicity before they ever port Dust.
Many players, myself included, pretty much use their PS3 for Dust alone....as much as I love the game its hard to justify buying another PS3 when this one dies, simply to play Dust.
"That little s**t Pokey..." --CCP Rattati, Biomassed Episode 032
Dust514 // Podcast
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.03.08 23:16:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:FLAYLOCK Steve wrote:cant afford a ps4m, not fair to cancel the game on ps3 for people who dont own or cant afford a ps4 Actually it is fair. The install base for the PS4 is growing rapidly (already hit 20M) and the concurrent users for PS3 is shrinking rapidly. Now, it may not be pleasant for you, but fair? Completely. If it were up to me I'd have the game running on both systems with certain game modes only available on PS4, however. Georgia Xavier wrote:I'd rather have it ported over to the PC,a much more open opportunities for development lie in wait on the PC rather than the PS4. PS4 hardware are already outdated compared to last Gen pc And let every matched be plagued with hackers in a F2P game where banning them is pointless? No thanks.
Eve online doesn't seem to have problems with hackers though
How many amarr does it take to change a light bulb? none. The minmatar do it for them
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