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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:11:00 -
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If the AV damage normalization thing is going to happen at the same time as this patch I strongly recommend rethinking the PLC damage buff you have listed. The PLC doing flat damage to vehicle shields or armor really is all that it needs. That, and that the user actually learn how to use the damn thing. STARTER fits being equipped with it is probably not the best idea either (dat learning curve) but whatever, we'll see how the Newbs do.
btw, been running PLC as AV since the MurderTaxi514/ MassDriverQQNerf days, and am a regular user of it in all modes pub, FW and PC. My dragonfly/plc isn't a troll fit, it's a primary fit .
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:26:00 -
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My dragonfly is an assault
Militia PLC w/an M512smg
LaiDai AV nades (finished skilling nades recently so put these on to test them)
Compact hive
probably some hp/regen/damp/DM mix, built the fit so long ago I don't really remember the specifics mod-wise
Cannon is prof5, Opti5, ammo and reload 3or4 iirc (Logi primary, my weapon skilling path not been typical)
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:32:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:If the AV damage normalization thing is going to happen at the same time as this patch I strongly recommend rethinking the PLC damage buff you have listed. The PLC doing flat damage to vehicle shields or armor really is all that it needs. That, and that the user actually learn how to use the damn thing. STARTER fits being equipped with it is probably not the best idea either (dat learning curve) but whatever, we'll see how the Newbs do.
btw, been running PLC as AV since the MurderTaxi514/ MassDriverQQNerf days, and am a regular user of it in all modes pub, FW and PC. My dragonfly/plc isn't a troll fit, it's a primary fit . As it stands once the PLC change hits the galmando will get 830 DPS vs shields at level 5. Assaults will cap at 682 vs. shields. Swarms, because they're so touchy will sit at (on paper, because some people swear the fire times are wonky and I hesitate to dismiss them) 1505 DPS armor, 873 shields Forge guns will be capping at 658 DPS vs. armor, 468 DPS vs. shields. Galmando PLC might be viable for tackling gunnlogis after the hotfix. it's on the edge. Assault suit PLC will not be viable vs. HAVs because of range, speed of the tanks and difficulty hitting. Swarms will just find the process a bit more difficult, both on the assault and minmando. But still well within tolerances. Forge gun is going to have a minimum TTK of about 20 seconds versus a madrugar assuming all shots hit and nothing goes wrong. this all assumes proto vs. proto. Lesser hulls versus proto are probably going to have more of a rough time of it. Have fun.
Assault PLC frames vs Mandos tho have the benefit of movement speed and lower profile so while they're doing less damage round for round they're in a much better place to chase a tanker back to the redline. Scouts (when they can fit it) are even better at it.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 20:58:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Breakin Stuff wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:If the AV damage normalization thing is going to happen at the same time as this patch I strongly recommend rethinking the PLC damage buff you have listed. The PLC doing flat damage to vehicle shields or armor really is all that it needs. That, and that the user actually learn how to use the damn thing. STARTER fits being equipped with it is probably not the best idea either (dat learning curve) but whatever, we'll see how the Newbs do.
btw, been running PLC as AV since the MurderTaxi514/ MassDriverQQNerf days, and am a regular user of it in all modes pub, FW and PC. My dragonfly/plc isn't a troll fit, it's a primary fit . As it stands once the PLC change hits the galmando will get 830 DPS vs shields at level 5. Assaults will cap at 682 vs. shields. Swarms, because they're so touchy will sit at (on paper, because some people swear the fire times are wonky and I hesitate to dismiss them) 1505 DPS armor, 873 shields Forge guns will be capping at 658 DPS vs. armor, 468 DPS vs. shields. Galmando PLC might be viable for tackling gunnlogis after the hotfix. it's on the edge. Assault suit PLC will not be viable vs. HAVs because of range, speed of the tanks and difficulty hitting. Swarms will just find the process a bit more difficult, both on the assault and minmando. But still well within tolerances. Forge gun is going to have a minimum TTK of about 20 seconds versus a madrugar assuming all shots hit and nothing goes wrong. this all assumes proto vs. proto. Lesser hulls versus proto are probably going to have more of a rough time of it. Have fun. Assault PLC frames vs Mandos tho have the benefit of movement speed and lower profile so while they're doing less damage round for round they're in a much better place to chase a tanker back to the redline. Scouts (when they can fit it) are even better at it. actually assaults with three damage mods have a higher alpha than a galmando can reach. It's that 25% reload speed galmandos get which pushes them up, because reload speed is the gate through which all plasma cannon love passes.
I'm not going to debate reload speed benefits with plcs, my only point is that if it's going to do normalized damage to shields and armor as AV the 13% buff is pretty high and will likely prove itself unneccessary if not outright OP, which then puts it onto the nerfbat table. Which is my dog in the race: don't get the PLC nerfed, the thing is fine.
I'll continue to wield all the damage ccp is willing to have it do. The QQhard community tho is probably not.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:13:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:more or less I'm hoping the profiles aren't removed.
If they do that, then we can likely kiss racial heavy weapons (even using recycled art assets) goodbye.
You mean for AV, right?
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el OPERATOR
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:22:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:OMG, you halfed the ROF of the Missile Turret!! WTH??? You reduced it's ammo. What is the reasoning behind this? Not only do I rarely see missile launchers, now you nerfed the living crap out of it? You do realize that repping armor tanks will just rep through our flipping missiles not to mention the stupid reload time is 1.5x what it was before?
YOU MONSTER! Every patch update there is good stuff and there is this sort of bad stuff. At least give missiles 300 RoF, and why reduce ammo?
Spamming missiles in one direction was the only way I could infantry and now I wouldn't be able to do that. Every patch, everything I use get's nerfed. I'm fking sick and tired of this flipping game.
Yes, i'm mad.
Probably has to do with the PC weapon usage data dump. Missles were pretty high on that list.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
907
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:25:00 -
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BTW, PLC stuff aside and tho I haven't dove fully into the minutia of the spreadsheet, a lot of this stuff so far looks good. TY Rattati et al. for continuing to refine the game.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
907
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Posted - 2015.03.05 21:26:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:OMG, you halfed the ROF of the Missile Turret!! WTH??? You reduced it's ammo. What is the reasoning behind this? Not only do I rarely see missile launchers, now you nerfed the living crap out of it? You do realize that repping armor tanks will just rep through our flipping missiles not to mention the stupid reload time is 1.5x what it was before?
YOU MONSTER! Every patch update there is good stuff and there is this sort of bad stuff. At least give missiles 300 RoF, and why reduce ammo?
Spamming missiles in one direction was the only way I could infantry and now I wouldn't be able to do that. Every patch, everything I use get's nerfed. I'm fking sick and tired of this flipping game.
Yes, i'm mad. Probably has to do with the PC weapon usage data dump. Missles were pretty high on that list. Nobody, uses missiles in PC and I am a PC tanker. It's always railguns.
ADS.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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el OPERATOR
Capital Acquisitions LLC
Bad Intention
907
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Posted - 2015.03.05 22:09:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:el OPERATOR wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:OMG, you halfed the ROF of the Missile Turret!! WTH??? You reduced it's ammo. What is the reasoning behind this? Not only do I rarely see missile launchers, now you nerfed the living crap out of it? You do realize that repping armor tanks will just rep through our flipping missiles not to mention the stupid reload time is 1.5x what it was before?
YOU MONSTER! Every patch update there is good stuff and there is this sort of bad stuff. At least give missiles 300 RoF, and why reduce ammo?
Spamming missiles in one direction was the only way I could infantry and now I wouldn't be able to do that. Every patch, everything I use get's nerfed. I'm fking sick and tired of this flipping game.
Yes, i'm mad. Probably has to do with the PC weapon usage data dump. Missles were pretty high on that list. Nobody, uses missiles in PC and I am a PC tanker. It's always railguns. ADS. Are you ok? I am specifically talking about large missiles. Go learn to read.
Hey now, I understand you're pissed but no need to be a **** to me about it, whether I'm incorrectly referring to something or not. I can be wrong, I'm okay with that, you can keep your tone aimed in the right direction.
Open-Beta Vet.
Drunk Night Tree Burner.
This is my Main and Original.
DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
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