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Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8032	Posted - 2015.03.03 14:11:00 - [1] - Quote I don't think I can express with words how badly I want PvE in Dust 514 and I do not believe that I am the only one. The PvE card on the community trello board has a whopping 37 votes; probably one of the highest, if not highest, voted cards on there. At this point, I don't even require overly complex PvE. Later, it can be iterated upon to be PvEvP and incorporated into planetary conquest or whatever, but right now I just want something that is not PvP. For you "LolCarebear" windowlickers out there I will compromise with you: make PvE missions require an item that must be attained from PvP. This "PvE key" would drop randomly from strongboxes or EoM salvage. That way PvP will not dry up after PvE gets released. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8032	Posted - 2015.03.03 14:27:00 - [2] - Quote Atiim wrote: PvE will not be coming to DUST 514. I've heard that too. Now ask me if that will stop me from asking for it. Go on. Ask me. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8032	Posted - 2015.03.03 14:33:00 - [3] - Quote I know that CCP Rouge has said something to the effect of, "Dust 514 will not be receiving PvE." but I can't find the interview where he says it. Does anyone have a link? 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8033	Posted - 2015.03.03 14:45:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: PvE is incredibly higher in terms of resource requirements to produce than CCP Rattati's team can achieve. Don't even dream about it, it ain't happening for DUST 514. Rattati has pulled off some nigh magical stuff before. Who knows how close PvE was to completion before they slashed the CCP Shanghai dev team. This is a pipedream, as Atiim already established, the headhoncho CCP Rouge himself has already said he doesn't want Dust to have PvE, but if the players never tell CCP that it is something we want badly then how will they know? 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8037	Posted - 2015.03.03 15:31:00 - [5] - Quote postapo wastelander wrote: They can make something like in Hawk3n. Just same map what we have for pubs with rogue drones or waves. That cant be that difficult, if we already saw video what was made. Basically like strike missions in Destiny. Go to point/node with what we lost signal. Fix the node under attack of first wave of drones. Secure data from attack from second point/node. Destroy UBERDRONE for win. or Destroy Waves of rogue drones. That can be that difficult. AI is supposedly a PITA to program. I wouldn't know, I'm not a programmer. The objectives and AI doesn't have to be the most incredible experience ever. They just need to work and be different from PvP. I get so tired grinding out PvP matches day after day. Even if we get new gamemodes and maps it will still be PvP. You feel me? I know CCP Shanghai's team isn't huge, but is there anything usable from the previous team? 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8040	Posted - 2015.03.03 15:54:00 - [6] - Quote Aiwha Bait wrote: 3rd Daily Reminder: You can buy PvE keys for 800 AUR. Or they can be put in strongboxes. Either way, it makes CCP money. Taskanoss wrote: Will you KEEP asking?!? Jes. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8043	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:02:00 - [7] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: Just my opinion, but I couldn't give a toss about PvE. That's fine. I don't want PvE to replace PvP. I still want more PvP gamemodes too. I just also want PvE to sprinkle in between matches just to do something different. That's all. On a side note: I'm sure you want the NPE to be better, right? Well having something resembling PvE could really benefit new players. Imagine a "firing range" mode where newberries could figure out how certain weapons fire without organized squads punching in their teeth. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8045	Posted - 2015.03.03 17:24:00 - [8] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Clones turn rogue and drones are sent in to exterminate them. How long will you last? Or clone infestation where a facility is faulty and creates an infinite amount of drones. Your supply is limited, so you better get the job "done". A survival mode would be a good start. I imagined a skirmish map with drones patrolling each objective in groups. Light drones around the edges, medium and heavies as you got closer to the letter. After hacking the letter a "boss" drone would spawn. The bosses are basically supped up "officer" versions of a light, medium, or heavy drone. Killing the boss would flip the objective. Capture all objectives within the timeframe to complete the mission. Stocks of clones for the mission can be purchased beforehand; if you think your squads are badasses then you could just buy 30 - 40, but if you have newberries maybe you buy 100+. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8147	Posted - 2015.03.05 18:07:00 - [9] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Just to put my vote in there... I don't want PvE in Dust514... If I want PvE I'll play a game designed to be PvE. Games do not have to be 'a bit of everything.' There are enough games around, for people to just switch the game they are playing if they want a different experience. Don't play PvE if you don't want to PvE. Why prevent others from enjoying new content in Dust 514 just because you personally might not enjoy it? That is just as idiotic as me asking CCP to forsaken development on PvP gamemodes in favor of PvE... And in response to the "Just switch games if you want PvE!" line of reasoning, I'm sure CCP would love the concept of telling players to go play another game Sound business strategy there. I included in my OP, if you read it at all, that we can require PvP matches to be completed before players can participate in PvE. This way the core of Dust 514's focus remains on PvP fights. PvE would be an auxiliary gamemode that takes a backseat to PvP. I'm fine with that and I'm sure the community is too. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8155	Posted - 2015.03.05 18:50:00 - [10] - Quote Dreis Shadowweaver wrote: I really don't understand why you want PvE so badly. Isn't PvP better in every way? PvE would add another layer of depth to Dust 514. It would mean I can fight rouge drones, Sansha zombies, Blood Raiders. The possibilities are immense. They could have weird tech or weapons that normal mercs don't have access to for lore and balancing reasons. Take a step back and acknowledge that PvE may not seem all that fun for you, but it is a lot of fun for some players. You don't have to understand that. I will never understand why people enjoy PC, but I don't pretend FW or pubs are better, do I? No. PC is probably someone's favorite way to play. Derpty Derp wrote: However wasting time developing a different game on top of the game, is taking away resources (that are apparently quite limited) from the main PvP game, which is still far from complete in most peoples eyes. First, we don't know how much of the original team's work on PvE is nearly complete. It may be something that could be developed in the span of one expansion for all we know. Also, you should probably reexamine the use of the word "waste". Dust is trying to remain profitable. If it is not profitable then CCP will not keep it around. That means your incredibly important PvP modes disappear too. With some careful monetization CCP could create another avenue to make money from aurum sales. Aurum sales translate into profit and profit means more devs, which if we keep with my previous assertion that PvP remains core gameplay, means more PvP development too. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.

Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 8157	Posted - 2015.03.05 19:45:00 - [11] - Quote Derpty, you go on believing that vanity items will be capable of keeping Dust afloat financially. That won't be the case. Even CCP recognizes it; look at the aurum monetization worked into the warbarge. We need new things to do. Even with new gamemodes Dust 514 PvP will be the same ol' same ol' we have been doing for years now. As another poster said, we are killing the same mercs, in the same dropsuits, using the same guns, in the same maps, etc. For years now. To say PvP in Dust has gone stale is an incredible understatement. 4 out of 5 dentists agree that orange is not a sound.

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