DUST Search - when are scanners getting nerfed?

Haerr wrote:

JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote:

Seriously
every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix...
you have been scanned Shocked

sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks?
This needs attention

How to escape from GalLogi Pro Active Scanners:

On Caldari and Gallente Scout suits: Fit 1 Complex Dampener GÇö You still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things.

On Amarr and Minmatar Scout suits: Fit 2 Complex Dampeners GÇö You still have up to 4 high/low slots left for other things.

On All Assault Suits: Fit 3 Complex Dampeners GÇö You Still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things.

And would you look at that, Assault suits and Cal/Gal Scouts have the same amount of high/low slots available for other things while dampened.

Seems to me that you could dampen and scan them right back. Either they won't see you while you can see them or they'll switch to dampened suits and you'll be on even grounds with them or their GalLogi will switch to Focused scanners and you will be focked and/or forced to avoid being in the area he's scanning.

Oh and if it is regular Pro Active Scanner (No GalLogi bonus) you can get away with 1 less dampener.

((^Entire Post^ Provided you have the relevant skills all the way up to 5))

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JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 439	Posted - 2015.03.02 20:01:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix... you have been scanned sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? This needs attention "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
DeadlyAztec11 Fatal Absolution 7754	Posted - 2015.03.02 20:04:00 - [2] - Quote They aren't. They might be annoying but nothing is going to happen to them. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Regnier Feros Pielords 240	Posted - 2015.03.02 20:04:00 - [3] - Quote hmm.... I like pie, do you like pie? "You're like a she-male.. hates gym, doesn't know how to be alpha.. you'll stay in the friendzone for life" -Senpai
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6467	Posted - 2015.03.02 20:08:00 - [4] - Quote When my cat commands it. So far, he is rather pleased.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 441	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:00:00 - [5] - Quote They've been nothing but a nuisance since they were introduced. They take the pubstomp problem and exasperate it. "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 441	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:16:00 - [6] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: hmm.... I like pie, do you like pie? Hair, fruit and pizza "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Haerr Nos Nothi 2404	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:26:00 - [7] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Seriously every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix... you have been scanned sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? This needs attention How to escape from GalLogi Pro Active Scanners: On Caldari and Gallente Scout suits: Fit 1 Complex Dampener GÇö You still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. On Amarr and Minmatar Scout suits: Fit 2 Complex Dampeners GÇö You still have up to 4 high/low slots left for other things. On All Assault Suits: Fit 3 Complex Dampeners GÇö You Still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. And would you look at that, Assault suits and Cal/Gal Scouts have the same amount of high/low slots available for other things while dampened. Seems to me that you could dampen and scan them right back. Either they won't see you while you can see them or they'll switch to dampened suits and you'll be on even grounds with them or their GalLogi will switch to Focused scanners and you will be focked and/or forced to avoid being in the area he's scanning. Oh and if it is regular Pro Active Scanner (No GalLogi bonus) you can get away with 1 less dampener. ((^Entire Post^ Provided you have the relevant skills all the way up to 5))
Haerr Nos Nothi 2405	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:38:00 - [8] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? If being scanned down bothers you so much wouldn't you consider an undampened suit to be 'more gimped' than a dampened one?
Forlorn Destrier Incorruptibles 3290	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:47:00 - [9] - Quote Ever hear of checks and balances? I am the *Forgotten Warhorse, a Lord of Lightning* *Havok* is my *Destiny* I am *Incorruptible*
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22419	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:52:00 - [10] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: They take the pubstomp problem and exasperate it. I do not believe this word means what you think it means. Try 'exacerbate'. Gallente Guide

Big miku Nation of Miku 445	Posted - 2015.03.02 22:54:00 - [11] - Quote Scanners are not the problem. The problem is multiple scanner on one GAL Logi, and even then that is not much of an issue as that player gimps himself.
Worthless Target Extra Padding 10	Posted - 2015.03.02 23:23:00 - [12] - Quote More often then not, I see "scan attempt prevented" pop up. This worries me because I don't have any skill points in profile dampening, and I'm in my starter fit. When I get the scan prevented message, I always wonder "what kind of scanner is that bad?"
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 444	Posted - 2015.03.02 23:56:00 - [13] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: They take the pubstomp problem and exasperate it. I do not believe this word means what you think it means. Try 'exacerbate'. Sorry on mobile . I'll do better next time "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 549	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:09:00 - [14] - Quote Imagine starting the game in heavy suits, you live a life of being scanned, you get used to it D: G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 895	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:11:00 - [15] - Quote Haerr wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Seriously every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix... you have been scanned sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? This needs attention How to escape from GalLogi Pro Active Scanners: On Caldari and Gallente Scout suits: Fit 1 Complex Dampener GÇö You still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. On Amarr and Minmatar Scout suits: Fit 2 Complex Dampeners GÇö You still have up to 4 high/low slots left for other things. On All Assault Suits: Fit 3 Complex Dampeners GÇö You Still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. And would you look at that, Assault suits and Cal/Gal Scouts have the same amount of high/low slots available for other things while dampened. Seems to me that you could dampen and scan them right back. Either they won't see you while you can see them or they'll switch to dampened suits and you'll be on even grounds with them or their GalLogi will switch to Focused scanners and you will be focked and/or forced to avoid being in the area he's scanning. Oh and if it is regular Pro Active Scanner (No GalLogi bonus) you can get away with 1 less dampener. ((^Entire Post^ Provided you have the relevant skills all the way up to 5)) Takes 2 complex damps for cal and gal suits and 3 for other scouts
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 446	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:15:00 - [16] - Quote Scanners have to change. The blob chasing the scan is ridiculous. How can anyone defend scanners? Obviously i get the benefits of scanners too (blappin someone with the plc as they come around a corner) but its just cheesy. Everyone talks risk v reward so whats the risk in scans? "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8181	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:21:00 - [17] - Quote I think they will get looked at and adjusted in some form or fashion. I wouldn't worry to much about it. More than anything, like always, its about being patient until the problem gets fixed. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2458	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:24:00 - [18] - Quote Sounds to me like they are balanced. They should be used in pretty much every game by at least one or two people. Home at Last <3
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 664	Posted - 2015.03.03 00:26:00 - [19] - Quote Would you rather the element of surprise, being unseen by all and having the extra few seconds of DPS, or be scanned, have all the red dots in the world chase you and have extra armor reps/second while being 3v1'd?? I'd rather the element of surprise, but if scans come out then I pull out my caldari scout and put away my caldari assault. My scout has 1.2/2 second delay times, 453 shield with 50/second regen. Hell sometimes I even pull that fit it instead of my assault XD new home <3
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1811	Posted - 2015.03.03 01:53:00 - [20] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Imagine starting the game in heavy suits, you live a life of being scanned, you get used to it D: These scanner crybabies just don't get that part of the game as well as other logi's , assaults and commando suits . Can't be avoided unless mods are fitted , hence gimping the suit to favor another style of gameplay . You must be a scout that likes to see everything and doesn't want to be seen by anyone so you can instagank everyone . Nice . I see mostly scouts complain about scanners , nothing new here . Real scouts just don't care because they know how to get the job done regardless . If your not a scout then what the heck are you complaining about .?. use them as well and stop crying and trying to make this game bland in your instaganking quest . Edit : Not talking about you MB , just the scanner crybabies . Hell dedicated heavies don't complain about them , neither do commando players but I guess to each is own . Doubts are like flies and should be treated as such and crushed .

xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 378	Posted - 2015.03.03 02:01:00 - [21] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Seriously every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix... you have been scanned sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? This needs attention Scanners are fine where they are. There is a give and take to every aspect in this game. You can't have invisibility combined with durability, it's unfair and unbalanced. Learn to adapt. *\|LOGi GOD\|* Director of Fatal Absolution
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17424	Posted - 2015.03.03 02:09:00 - [22] - Quote Regnier Feros wrote: hmm.... I like pie, do you like pie? I LIKE PIE! "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 508	Posted - 2015.03.03 02:14:00 - [23] - Quote gallente logistics gk.o 3 complex presion enhancers 2 complex armour reps 2 complex reactive plates 1 complex armour plate 4X credron flux scanners allotek flux grenade creodron breach ar. good luck. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 819	Posted - 2015.03.03 02:22:00 - [24] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: gallente logistics gk.o 3 complex presion enhancers 2 complex armour reps 2 complex reactive plates 1 complex armour plate 4X credron flux scanners allotek flux grenade creodron breach ar. good luck. You do know that the precision enhancers do nothing for active scanners? Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?!
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 671	Posted - 2015.03.03 03:02:00 - [25] - Quote "when are scanners getting nerfed?" when 80% of the game is no longer defense against scouts
Ralden Caster KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 110	Posted - 2015.03.03 03:03:00 - [26] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: They take the pubstomp problem and exasperate it. I do not believe this word means what you think it means. Try 'exacerbate'. You're not condensating to the conversation! As an engineer, your buildings are like your children. You hit them to make them work harder.
hold that Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 671	Posted - 2015.03.03 03:05:00 - [27] - Quote Bright Cloud wrote: Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: gallente logistics gk.o 3 complex presion enhancers 2 complex armour reps 2 complex reactive plates 1 complex armour plate 4X credron flux scanners allotek flux grenade creodron breach ar. good luck. You do know that the precision enhancers do nothing for active scanners? hah, about as gimp as running 4 flux scanner!
Meee One Amakakeru-Ryu-no-Hirameki 1555	Posted - 2015.03.03 03:39:00 - [28] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: gallente logistics gk.o 3 complex presion enhancers 2 complex armour reps 2 complex reactive plates 1 complex armour plate 4X credron flux scanners allotek flux grenade creodron breach ar. good luck. What a terrible fit! 4 scanners! Can't breathe! Official Blueberry of the Forums. Title given by my #1 fan Sgt Kirk.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1293	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:17:00 - [29] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: They take the pubstomp problem and exasperate it. I do not believe this word means what you think it means. Try 'exacerbate'. No, what does exacerbate mean? It means to make things worse... Oh. 1mil next time I log on first come first served. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 916	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:34:00 - [30] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: gallente logistics gk.o 3 complex presion enhancers 2 complex armour reps 2 complex reactive plates 1 complex armour plate 4X credron flux scanners allotek flux grenade creodron breach ar. good luck. lol, all that risk 6 man proto squad errday.

Nothing Certain Bioshock Rejects 1556	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:44:00 - [31] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: They take the pubstomp problem and exasperate it. I do not believe this word means what you think it means. Try 'exacerbate'. It actually seemed appropriate. Because, that's why.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 11079	Posted - 2015.03.03 07:00:00 - [32] - Quote If you're constantly being scanned, stick with a group. There is always safety in numbers. Also, scans shouldn't be the ones being fixed. It's the maps. They're too damn small and it encourages players to concentrate in one or two areas of the map which makes it predictable for scanner-role players. If the maps were vastly more open and sockets were spread out more evenly, then scanner players would really have to start guessing. Think about it. If the maps are currently 5 km^2 and are limited in scope only by the redline, imagine if the redline were to ever be 2-3 times in current size for new maps. Imagine if maps like Fracture Road, Border Gulch, and Impact Ridge were one large battlefield merged into one. Map reference: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=180951&find=unread Then it would become a problem for players who are dedicated scanners because they then have to be spread out thin and have a larger area to scan. And since even the farthest scanner can only see up to 150 km (max), each team will have to make a choice between bringing in more scanners (which means less dedicated slayers) and more slayers or scouts (which means less dedicated scanners). On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Lorhak Gannarsein Nos Nothi 4362	Posted - 2015.03.03 08:02:00 - [33] - Quote Haerr wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Seriously every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix... you have been scanned sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? This needs attention How to escape from GalLogi Pro Active Scanners: On Caldari and Gallente Scout suits: Fit 1 Complex Dampener GÇö You still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. On Amarr and Minmatar Scout suits: Fit 2 Complex Dampeners GÇö You still have up to 4 high/low slots left for other things. On All Assault Suits: Fit 3 Complex Dampeners GÇö You Still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. And would you look at that, Assault suits and Cal/Gal Scouts have the same amount of high/low slots available for other things while dampened. Seems to me that you could dampen and scan them right back. Either they won't see you while you can see them or they'll switch to dampened suits and you'll be on even grounds with them or their GalLogi will switch to Focused scanners and you will be focked and/or forced to avoid being in the area he's scanning. Oh and if it is regular Pro Active Scanner (No GalLogi bonus) you can get away with 1 less dampener. ((^Entire Post^ Provided you have the relevant skills all the way up to 5)) the only problem here is that then my armour-tank is noob :( Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
xavier zor 0uter.Heaven 666	Posted - 2015.03.03 08:06:00 - [34] - Quote improve eWar on mediums, only heavy suits should be scanned by STD scanners, medium should not. new home <3
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1293	Posted - 2015.03.03 08:39:00 - [35] - Quote xavier zor wrote: improve eWar on mediums, only heavy suits should be scanned by STD scanners, medium should not. I dodge scanners in my assault just by having dampening to 5 I think? toss on a complex pd and I dodge everything but proto. So I know if I'm getting scanned its a proto scanner and I act accordingly. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
Powerh8er Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 688	Posted - 2015.03.03 09:29:00 - [36] - Quote No margin of error detected. Have you got anymore exploding carrots?
Poultryge1st KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 95	Posted - 2015.03.03 11:50:00 - [37] - Quote Haerr wrote: JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Seriously every game. You have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned you have been scanned. Then you turn off dust and put on netflix... you have been scanned sure i have a fit with 3 complex damps but then i have crap reps, crap armor crap speed. I have to run a gimped fit because the scrublords need wallhacks? This needs attention How to escape from GalLogi Pro Active Scanners: On Caldari and Gallente Scout suits: Fit 1 Complex Dampener GÇö You still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. On Amarr and Minmatar Scout suits: Fit 2 Complex Dampeners GÇö You still have up to 4 high/low slots left for other things. On All Assault Suits: Fit 3 Complex Dampeners GÇö You Still have up to 5 high/low slots left for other things. And would you look at that, Assault suits and Cal/Gal Scouts have the same amount of high/low slots available for other things while dampened. Seems to me that you could dampen and scan them right back. Either they won't see you while you can see them or they'll switch to dampened suits and you'll be on even grounds with them or their GalLogi will switch to Focused scanners and you will be focked and/or forced to avoid being in the area he's scanning. Oh and if it is regular Pro Active Scanner (No GalLogi bonus) you can get away with 1 less dampener. ((^Entire Post^ Provided you have the relevant skills all the way up to 5)) AHHHH! Logic! Kill it! Burn it with fire! Die! On a serious note good post man.


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