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        |  Kain Spero
 Negative-Feedback.
 
 4622
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 08:40:00 -
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 This really has gone on long enough. Until performance can be improved the Gallente Research Facility (lovingly called lag map or lag facility) needs to be switched out for communications as it used to be before the lab map was released.
 
 Communications map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80615&find=unread
 
 Yes the lab is a fun map, but the performance in it ruins far more games than it enhances. I'm fairly certain this can be done on the server side as part of a hotfix.
 
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        |  DeadlyAztec11
 Ostrakon Agency
 
 7738
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 10:10:00 -
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 It's not even that bad.
 
 Toxic mood on the other hand... Kill that bastard with fire!!!
 
 Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side. 
Show the world where you're from. 
Show the world we are one. | 
      
      
        |  Wolfica
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 809
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 10:45:00 -
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 lag facility has been an issue for far to long now. needs change
 
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        |  Zatara Rought
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 5087
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 12:16:00 -
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 I have been asked/requested this on and off since July for them to simply swap maps out. Logibro even suggested long ago that it was hotfixable.
 
 While you're at it just swap out all map rotations. It's not difficult, just needs more people waving pitchforks.
 
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        |  Jebus McKing
 Nos Nothi
 
 1592
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 12:23:00 -
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 What I don't get about this game is that performance issues are not the same for all players. Sometimes I can play the Lag Facility just fine and someone else in my squad gets ~5fps, or it is the other way around.
 
 This is a genereal issue in DUST. Why are some people heavily affected by performance issues and others are not, even if on the same map, in the same match? It would make sense if everyone had lag/frame rate issues, but not if some have issues and some don't.
 
 Also, why is it that network issues / lag seem to cause frame rate drops? It doesn't make sense to me. DUST is the first game that I have ever played where this happens.
 
 Jebus hates scans. | 
      
      
        |  Bright Cloud
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 818
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 12:48:00 -
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 agreed that thing needs to go ASAP. During PC's nobody likes to play on that map due to massive frame rate drops. In pubs its for some reason a bit better but still a pain to play if you dont have a SSD in your PS3 to improve the frame rate. And dont deny it CCP a SSD does improve gameplay experience cause i got one since a long time.
 
 Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?! | 
      
      
        |  Kain Spero
 Negative-Feedback.
 
 4627
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 19:26:00 -
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 A lot of the performance issues seems to depend on how many times you leaven and enter the facility. The more trips you make in and out the worse the FPS performance becomes.
 
 Either way the map needs to go.
 
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        |  xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx
 Fatal Absolution
 Negative-Feedback
 
 361
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.02 20:54:00 -
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 Zatara Rought wrote:I have been asked/requested this on and off since July for them to simply swap maps out. Logibro even suggested long ago that it was hotfixable.
 While you're at it just swap out all map rotations. It's not difficult, just needs more people waving pitchforks.
 
 
 A map overhaul does sound nice. I agree with the Gallente Surface Reasearch Facility getting the axe. Causes crazy stress on my PS3 pending on how many times I navigate to and from the city.
 
 |LOGi GOD| Director of Fatal Absolution | 
      
      
        |  Kain Spero
 Negative-Feedback.
 
 4629
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 02:27:00 -
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 Zatara Rought wrote:I have been asked/requested this on and off since July for them to simply swap maps out. Logibro even suggested long ago that it was hotfixable.
 While you're at it just swap out all map rotations. It's not difficult, just needs more people waving pitchforks.
 
 Couldn't agree more.
 
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        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 17424
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 02:34:00 -
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 * Appears pushing a cart laden with pitchforks
 
 "The hell are you all looking at? These are mine."
 
 "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty." | 
      
      
        |  sir RAVEN WING
 Horizons' Edge
 VP Gaming Alliance
 
 3122
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 05:59:00 -
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 True Adamance wrote:* Appears pushing a cart laden with pitchforks
 "The hell are you all looking at? These are mine."
 I see your cart o' pitchforks and raise you a 24-car train o' pitchforks.
  
 Fuck the silver, let's go for the gold . I am what haunts your dreams at night. | 
      
      
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        |  CCP Rattati
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 17720
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 06:07:00 -
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 This is happening.
 
 "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim" | 
      
      
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        |  Kain Spero
 Negative-Feedback.
 
 4631
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 06:08:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. 
 
 ALL THE LIKES!!!!
 
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        |  Ghost Kaisar
 Negative-Feedback
 
 10200
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 06:23:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. 
 
  
 PARTY IN THE WARBARGE!!!
 
 Born Deteis Caldari. Rejected by my Kinsman. Found a new family in the Vherokior Tribe.  Nobody messes with my family | 
      
      
        |  Zaria Min Deir
 0uter.Heaven
 
 1204
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 06:27:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. Praise the sun! (When it actually does happen
  ) 
 Have you considered installing the improved keyboard? "Go Go Power Rangers!" | 
      
      
        |  H0riz0n Unlimit
 
 489
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 06:36:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. No comment.
 
 "Doc DDD is better than you" cit. Extacy cravings; Dead man's game proud member since 09/14. Alt of The KTM(FOTM) DuKe | 
      
      
        |  Assert Dominance
 Ahrendee Inc.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 919
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 08:34:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. finally, a step forward :)
 
 6 man proto squad errday. | 
      
      
        |  Assert Dominance
 Ahrendee Inc.
 Negative-Feedback
 
 919
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 08:35:00 -
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 now about that favoriting apex suits issue
 
 6 man proto squad errday. | 
      
      
        |  Echo 1991
 Titans of Phoenix
 
 741
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 08:42:00 -
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 Not the meat grinder
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        |  Vicious Minotaur
 
 2054
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 08:49:00 -
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 "Replace Gallente Research Facility with Communications Socket"
 ^?
 
 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. 
 
 boo
 
 I am a minotaur.a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë | 
      
      
        |  Kalante Schiffer
 Ancient Exiles.
 
 969
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 08:49:00 -
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 Zatara Rought wrote:Such a nostalgic map.I have been asked/requested this on and off since July for them to simply swap maps out. Logibro even suggested long ago that it was hotfixable.
 While you're at it just swap out all map rotations. It's not difficult, just needs more people waving pitchforks.
 
 
 framerate>everything else | 
      
      
        |  Pseudogenesis
 Nos Nothi
 
 1977
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 09:14:00 -
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 Aw, I'll miss the bugger :( Performance issues aside, it was a really fun map. Shame it has to be taken out of rotation. Hopefully someday we'll see its triumphant (and lagless) return
 
 Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know. | 
      
      
        |  Mad Syringe
 ReDust Inc.
 
 496
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 09:31:00 -
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 Can it at least be replaced with the cargo hub? The comms outpost is such a horrid map... the cargo hub is much more comparable with the research facillity gameplay wise...
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        |  Lorhak Gannarsein
 Nos Nothi
 
 4364
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 12:22:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. FUUUCKIIIN FINALLYY!
 
 But please can we replace it with something other than communications facility? That map is pretty dull.
 
 Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'. And I want to play FE:A now. Damn. | 
      
      
        |  DeadlyAztec11
 Fatal Absolution
 
 7774
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 17:38:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. Boo.
 
 Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side. 
Show the world where you're from. 
Show the world we are one. | 
      
      
        |  Kain Spero
 Negative-Feedback.
 
 4641
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 17:42:00 -
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 Mad Syringe wrote:Can it at least be replaced with the cargo hub? The comms outpost is such a horrid map... the cargo hub is much more comparable with the research facillity gameplay wise... 
 When it comes to PC over 90% of districts are already cargo hubs, so replacing the research facility with the cargo hub wouldn't make much sense.
 
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        |  GLOBAL RAGE
 Consolidated Dust
 
 107
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.03 21:38:00 -
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 Kain Spero wrote:This really has gone on long enough. Until performance can be improved the Gallente Research Facility (lovingly called lag map or lag facility) needs to be switched out for communications as it used to be before the lab map was released. Communications map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80615&find=unread Yes the lab is a fun map, but the performance in it ruins far more games than it enhances. I'm fairly certain this can be done on the server side as part of a hotfix. 
 It is not the facility, it is the player base that causes performance issues.
 
 Pay attention to the regions that are mixed together, then account for a percentage of "in region" players with sub standard connections. Another way to qualify this is take notice of players who "LAG" in each match, if it's a "clean" match the facility is fun, laggers=low frame rate.
 
 CCP's only solution is to region lock, pubs and corporations. Then they can play with latencyy algorithims that higher meta game play could use to host inter-regional games.
 
 This is just the way the internet works, UDP over TCP/IP.
 
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        |  Kain Spero
 Negative-Feedback.
 
 4645
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 02:15:00 -
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 GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Kain Spero wrote:This really has gone on long enough. Until performance can be improved the Gallente Research Facility (lovingly called lag map or lag facility) needs to be switched out for communications as it used to be before the lab map was released. Communications map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80615&find=unread Yes the lab is a fun map, but the performance in it ruins far more games than it enhances. I'm fairly certain this can be done on the server side as part of a hotfix. It is not the facility, it is the player base that causes performance issues. Pay attention to the regions that are mixed together, then account for a percentage of "in region" players with sub standard connections. Another way to qualify this is take notice of players who "LAG" in each match, if it's a "clean" match the facility is fun, laggers=low frame rate. CCP's only solution is to region lock, pubs and corporations. Then they can play with latencyy algorithims that higher meta game play could use to host inter-regional games. This is just the way the internet works, UDP over TCP/IP. 
 FPS performance and network latency are not the same thing.
 
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        |  KA24DERT
 TeamPlayers
 Negative-Feedback
 
 1082
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 02:44:00 -
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 Kain Spero wrote:GLOBAL RAGE wrote:Kain Spero wrote:This really has gone on long enough. Until performance can be improved the Gallente Research Facility (lovingly called lag map or lag facility) needs to be switched out for communications as it used to be before the lab map was released. Communications map: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=80615&find=unread Yes the lab is a fun map, but the performance in it ruins far more games than it enhances. I'm fairly certain this can be done on the server side as part of a hotfix. It is not the facility, it is the player base that causes performance issues. Pay attention to the regions that are mixed together, then account for a percentage of "in region" players with sub standard connections. Another way to qualify this is take notice of players who "LAG" in each match, if it's a "clean" match the facility is fun, laggers=low frame rate. CCP's only solution is to region lock, pubs and corporations. Then they can play with latencyy algorithims that higher meta game play could use to host inter-regional games. This is just the way the internet works, UDP over TCP/IP. FPS performance and network latency are not the same thing.  
 Um, lag is lag, you silly neckbeard. It doesn't matter if the lag is generated by texture swapping or silly things like the speed of light. It all ends up going through the lag chip that all cheaters use.
 
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        |  Bright Cloud
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 823
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 03:01:00 -
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 KA24DERT wrote:[quote=Kain Spero]
 Um, lag is lag, you silly neckbeard. It doesn't matter if the lag is generated by texture swapping or silly things like the speed of light. It all ends up going through the lag chip that all cheaters use.
 Allright you silly fool i think this here:
 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/comicsandcosplay/comics/critical-miss/13549-Critical-Miss-Pc-Gaming-pedantry
 will explain what the problem on that specific socket is.
 
 Bright is the opposite of dark! Who would have thought of that?! | 
      
      
        |  XxBlazikenxX
 Y.A.M.A.H
 
 420
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 17:43:00 -
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 Imagine how the strategies of PC will change.
 
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        |  Fox Gaden
 Immortal Guides
 Learning Alliance
 
 6067
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 19:22:00 -
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 CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. I hope you just mean for PC?
 
 Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition. | 
      
      
        |  True Adamance
 Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
 Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
 
 17461
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 20:46:00 -
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 Kain Spero wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. ALL THE LIKES!!!! 
 I knew the cart would galvanise development. Nothing promotes progress like a good ole fashioned mob.......
 
 "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty." | 
      
      
        |  XxBlazikenxX
 Y.A.M.A.H
 
 423
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.04 23:40:00 -
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 Fox Gaden wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:This is happening. I hope you just mean for PC? Of course only for PC. Don't worry, we'll still have our Publags Matches.
 
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        |  Jebus McKing
 Nos Nothi
 
 1634
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.06 09:00:00 -
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 Can we please finally also remove this socket from pub matches? Performance issues have become so annoying that my squad decided to leave match as soon as we encounter it. It is unbearable most of the time.
 
 Just remove it for now, fix it, and then bring it back once the issues have been resolved.
 
 Jebus hates scans. | 
      
      
        |  Kuruld Sengar
 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K
 RISE of LEGION
 
 242
 
 
      | Posted - 2015.03.06 10:56:00 -
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 Jebus McKing wrote:Can we please finally also remove this socket from pub matches? Performance issues have become so annoying that my squad decided to leave match as soon as we encounter it. It is unbearable most of the time.
 Just remove it for now, fix it, and then bring it back once the issues have been resolved.
 It's my favorite map :( I don't get any fps drops... except for the odd 1-2 second stutter once or twice a match...
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