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cleaningcrew88 Weiben Ritter 27	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:38:00 - [1] - Quote ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks
Atiim Commando Perkone Caldari State 15827	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:43:00 - [2] - Quote The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Sir Dukey G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1842	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:46:00 - [3] - Quote Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
NIGGSWORM G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1844	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:46:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. Acquire Currency, Disregard Female Canis lupus familiaris
cleaningcrew88 Weiben Ritter 27	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:55:00 - [5] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. very good sir. these are the ideas i want to help ccp brainstorm, cuz i really enjoy this game and have been in it since beta. we just need more players so we can have more events more matches and more fun. i would like to see some new faces around here. keep the comments coming....
Atiim Commando Perkone Caldari State 15827	Posted - 2015.03.02 01:58:00 - [6] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. The thing with re-releases, is that it doesn't work well when the original game has a reputation for being bad, and the DEVs behind the re-release are the same as the ones who made the first bad game. People will know it's going to be bad (which it will be), as such will avoid this game. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Jathniel Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 1486	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:00:00 - [7] - Quote cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks It sort of needs to 'live up' to its advertisements first right...? Retired
cleaningcrew88 Weiben Ritter 27	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:03:00 - [8] - Quote Jathniel wrote: cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks It sort of needs to 'live up' to its advertisements first right...? hard to say destiny didnt and i still dropped 100 bucks on it they fooled everyone
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1119	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:22:00 - [9] - Quote You have to have a FULL GAME to release in the first place. What we have here is nothing more than a PvP.... mini... sandbox... that doesn't really work. 3 game modes... aaaaand? Nope. Need at least 5 game modes, that are not direct variants of one another. (which is why most games resort to the Zombies, Capture the flag, Deathmatch, King of the hill... etc) We can barely get capture the point to work. We have 2 variants of a single game type, and regular Deathmatch. Not something you'd want to blindly advertise for. Nothing to pique interest. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Henrietta Unknown Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 839	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:25:00 - [10] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. inb4 LEGION Please buff my Magsex. It doesn't hit hard enough...

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8155	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:36:00 - [11] - Quote They barely have enough dough for development, what makes you think they would put out ads at this point? And without a significant improvement in the NPE, this vet community pretty much just harvests noobs. It would be a waste of money to bring people in only to drive them immediately away. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Uncle AWOL Protheans BetaMax. 86	Posted - 2015.03.02 02:59:00 - [12] - Quote There was an ad made if I recall. They showed it at Fanfest a few years back. Took me a couple minutes to find it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjKfAdJ-Y0
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2519	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:12:00 - [13] - Quote cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks Nooooooooooooooooooo!!! DUST 514 needs core mechanics: movement, aiming, terrain/object interaction and so much more. If we advertise it now we'll just have another wave of peeps comparing it to a steaming pile of kittenshit. This is more true today than it was two years ago because many peeps have seen what the new consoles and titles are offering in terms of core shooter mechanics. There's only one way outta this hole...the hard way. If we can't do that we're meat. PSN: RationalSpark
logan turnbull Glitched Connection 5	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:20:00 - [14] - Quote Yeah redesign and release on PS4 war always profit in war
Vicious Minotaur 2044	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:21:00 - [15] - Quote It was advertised on some dudes butt, which some might say was fitting. I am a minotaur. a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça¦ça+üa+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+¦a+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa+üa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ëa¦ë
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 40	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:38:00 - [16] - Quote cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks do you realize how expensive advertising is? that being said if you are willing to chip in some of the cash im sure theyd be more then happy to if enough people helped raise the money
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1120	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:52:00 - [17] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks do you realize how expensive advertising is? that being said if you are willing to chip in some of the cash im sure theyd be more then happy to if enough people helped raise the money Advertising is expensive. But that's all you get. A delighted gamer base is also expensive. You also get free reputation and advertising off the back of that. Seriously think about it... who needs advertising, when you have a mass of people who love the game? Take the "Binding of Issac: Rebirth" or "Faster Than Light". I don't see any real adverts for them, but I can guarantee a recommendation to at least try them once. Complete games that are fun to play practically sell themselves. http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 3782	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:53:00 - [18] - Quote cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks It needs to go to ps4. No point in advertising for the ps3. Shield tanking is hard mode /period. > Check RND out here
Eruditus 920 Nemo Malus Felix 1342	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:56:00 - [19] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks do you realize how expensive advertising is? that being said if you are willing to chip in some of the cash im sure theyd be more then happy to if enough people helped raise the money No I don't. How expensive is it? "Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
VAHZZ Haven's Keep 655	Posted - 2015.03.02 04:15:00 - [20] - Quote They just need to focus on Valkyrie. ~ Closed Beta Vet

demonkiller 12 Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 620	Posted - 2015.03.02 04:38:00 - [21] - Quote cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks Okay, you go talk to the major shareholder, and give hime 10 million dollars and he might let you advertise
Assert Dominance Ahrendee Inc. Negative-Feedback 897	Posted - 2015.03.02 04:42:00 - [22] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: You have to have a FULL GAME to release in the first place. What we have here is nothing more than a PvP.... mini... sandbox... that doesn't really work. 3 game modes... aaaaand? Nope. Need at least 5 game modes, that are not direct variants of one another. (which is why most games resort to the Zombies, Capture the flag, Deathmatch, King of the hill... etc) We can barely get capture the point to work. We have 2 variants of a single game type, and regular Deathmatch. Not something you'd want to blindly advertise for. Nothing to pique interest. battlefield had 3 game modes forever. 6 man proto squad errday.
TEBOW BAGGINS 1679	Posted - 2015.03.02 04:56:00 - [23] - Quote demonkiller 12 wrote: cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks Okay, you go talk to the major shareholder, and give hime 10 million dollars and he might let you advertise please, allow me to do the talking; i have some connections with taco bell i'll see what i can do to get dust 514 on the cup.
castba Rogue Instincts 795	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:32:00 - [24] - Quote Atiim wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. The thing with re-releases, is that it doesn't work well when the original game has a reputation for being bad, and the DEVs behind the re-release are the same as the ones who made the first bad game. People will know it's going to be bad (which it will be), as such will avoid this game. The thing is that you are viewing it from a BitterVet perspective as opposed to someone who has never heard of Dust 514 before. There is a large market out there that Dust is unknown to. "When everything is OP, nothing is" - CCP Ratatti
DDx77 The Exemplars RISE of LEGION 159	Posted - 2015.03.02 05:37:00 - [25] - Quote What they should do is have a free mobile app with a connection to dust and eve And they should call it The Warbarge....... Militia Bolt Pistol - Cause that fourth shot is just a waste of time
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 468	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:14:00 - [26] - Quote cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks How's this for advertising? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z_GRjNL7l40 I'd buy air time and run it during Walking Dead if I could. Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1818	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:24:00 - [27] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. No way before new game modes - and a plan how to rev em up when / if player counts start to multiply Looking at both sides of the coin. Even Aurum one.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9318	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:36:00 - [28] - Quote I don't want to be the one to say it, but we've already had two holiday seasons for people to jump board onto the new generation. And typically when people get a new gen console, they only want to play new gen games. They'll keep the last gen console around for awhile but only to play familiar games as opposed to getting into anything new. Dust's player base isn't going to get any surges while it stays on PS3. It almost seems as that is their intentions for now too, a clever way to test ideas for a future re-release without much public awareness. Right now most gamers aren't really thinking about Dust 514 and it's negative early reception. It's pretty much faded out entirely, and whenever CCP does decide to do Legion/Dust 514 on PC/PS4 people will see that a lot of time has passed and probably view it as a total reboot, despite actually being a very gradual iterative progression, and be more likely to give it a second chance. Not many people are going to give Dust 514 PS3 a second chance no matter how much marketing CCP does. Amarr are the good guys Join "PIE Ground Control" for secure Amarr FW syncing and orbital support
rpastry Dead Man's Game 274	Posted - 2015.03.02 09:12:00 - [29] - Quote think ccp are hoping dust might survive in the way eve did. but being trapped on a dying last-gen console isn't healthy, especially given said consoles difficulty at running dust at anything close to a consistent 30fps in 720p. its certainly not going to offer much appeal to the vast majority of gamers. as a beta vet I got bored, finally caved in and bought a ps4. ive been playing destiny and warframe. say what you like about the gameplay, the environments are pretty, complex, and are running smoothly at 1080p. they make dust look very dated indeed. I've not abandoned dust entirely, but there's not a lot to keep me playing. [Removed ASCII Art - CCP Logibro]
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1867	Posted - 2015.03.02 09:26:00 - [30] - Quote Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: cleaningcrew88 wrote: ccp you really need to think of more ways to advertise we have a good veteran player base but we would all like to see more numbers on the tranquility servers. advertise more places maybe.... anyone comments and advise please leave your input thanks How's this for advertising? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z_GRjNL7l40 I'd buy air time and run it during Walking Dead if I could. WHY WOULD YOU PULL THAT SCAB OFF!?!?!?!!! So glad we got CCP Rattati after all of that mess. Hearing the lamentations of Amarr women since 92'.

DUST Fiend 15924	Posted - 2015.03.02 09:42:00 - [31] - Quote No Not until it's on PC or PS4. This game is a trainwreck visually and mechanically compared to much of the competition. Its draw isn't something you can cram into a 10 second slot. It needs to be pretty before it can go on TV. Bad DUST. Bad. Contests, Sales, Writing etc Fly Safe
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 971	Posted - 2015.03.02 12:58:00 - [32] - Quote castba wrote: Atiim wrote: Sir Dukey wrote: Atiim wrote: The thing with advertising, is that it doesn't work well if your game is bad and has already been released. re-release it. The thing with re-releases, is that it doesn't work well when the original game has a reputation for being bad, and the DEVs behind the re-release are the same as the ones who made the first bad game. People will know it's going to be bad (which it will be), as such will avoid this game. The thing is that you are viewing it from a BitterVet perspective as opposed to someone who has never heard of Dust 514 before. There is a large market out there that Dust is unknown to. I'd say Atiim pretty much hits the nail on the head. A lot of the original people involved in the release and marketing of Dust are gone, but lets be realistic though: It's on "last-gen" hardware now. I believe the PS3 is ceasing manufacture this year. Then there's the reviews, which are barely two years old . Most of them are bad. Hell, Gamespot even did a "re-review" after 1.7 hit and it was as bad if not worse than the initial review. From a funding perspective, Dust is in a development no man's land - a skeleton crew who are working on life-support to try and just maintain some kind of a business model and not lose too much of the playerbase while the rest of the shanghai studio is used for something else (either Valkyrie or Legion) that will be more profitable and is more scalable. Add to this, nothing much has changed since launch - many of the problems are still the same, many of the in-game assets are the same. The game modes are still basically the same. The new player experience has changed slightly since the beginning but the new player experience now is even more brutal than before - you are thrown into matches against players who have 10x your skill points and 100x your isk reserves... I'd say whatever budget they have allocated to Dust 514 is best spent on creating mechanics than can be easily ported to EVE Legion, which is probably what they are doing and trying to alleviate the atrocious experience for those that stick around and play it, while from a business perspective, trying to make some money out of it (it is after all, a business).


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