Since scouts mostly prefer knova knives and bolt pistols and are supposed to be well: Scouts and not primary Assaults on speed, perhaps they should just have two sidearms instead of a light weapon slot. This would provide greater use of their kind as well as stop them from steeling the Assault glory tittle from Assaults who are already rocking their given role!

Just a strong thought ;) Opinions anyone?

Not all scouts prefer nova knives and bolt pistols. I for example am a minja, which means I get to choose between:

throwing suit after suit at an enemy until I ragequit
(seriously why does it take 10 protofits to take out a basic sentinel?! Oh yeah bc the heavy QQ won... And kept QQing and won again... Rinse and repeat, and now a fully charged NK makes a sentinel laugh, and they're already expecting you for attempts 2-10)

or avoiding battle and carrying a shotgun/mass driver
(so that I can hope and pray to take an enemy down WHEN not if, I get spotted. Oh yeah let's take the minja stealth bonus that's great. Doesnt work 99/100 times anyway)

Youre right. My pathetic broken class noncombatant that needs a light weapon so that my death will have a 1% chance of not being in vain steals so much assault glory

2 sidearms id agree for a pilot.
Taking shotgun from scouts: nah buddy, heavies already won. Pipe down and go eat your victory cake.

If I hear one more "let's make it more impossible for the assassin to stealth kill", I'm gonna make a card for giving scouts heavy weapons since scouts already cost as much as logis for no good reason and have no realistic capability as scouts and are forced into being logi-lite or glass-cannon-assault.

As a minja, I'd like to hear one good reason i should be completely incapable of dealing with a sentinel I worked my butt off to successfully sneak up on. Keeping in mind that scouts are the counter to heavies and gallogi is king of hacking and king of scanning and galmando is king of shotgun. One good reason. Go.

Scouts need to be scouts. Gal scouts deserve shotguns, calscouts deserve sniper rifles, and min/amarr scouts need lots and lots of love.
I vote no.

It's been months since I last steeled a tittle!

It's been months since I last steeled a tittle!

Lol language ****! Thx. Hmmm.... Apparently this German name is unaccept-a-bowl ;)

Since scouts mostly prefer knova knives and bolt pistols and are supposed to be well: Scouts and not primary Assaults on speed, perhaps they should just have two sidearms instead of a light weapon slot. This would provide greater use of their kind as well as stop them from steeling the Assault glory tittle from Assaults who are already rocking their given role!

Just a strong thought ;) Opinions anyone?

This idea has been brought many times and is even less pertinent than before as assaults are much better at assaulting than scouts now. They're even better shotgunners.
Let people choose how they want to fit their scout

Example all Scouts share all passive scans with team.

1 you take away the scouts role of sniping(which no one does on as scout)

Answering: Be a scout(recon,uplinks,hacks). What you're agile to do is assault with an non assault class! Lol!!!

I'v e always been an avid supported of scouts only being able to use side arms.

Seeing they are called a "SCOUT", their primary role shouldn't be slaying, kind of like a logistics role.

Honestly, if scouts would concentrate more on hacking, relaying recon info to their squads, putting uplinks behind enemy lines, running supplies, and killing other scouts who are doing the same, I believe it would be much better for the whole team.


Instead of putting on a shotgun and trolling the battle field as hard as they can, spamming remotes like it's going out of style.

Well scouts could get bonuses to stuff scouts are ment for. Example all Scouts share all passive scans with team. Would not harm the scout but in battle it would be more key to keep the scout alive then have him go Rambo.

But i disagree with taking a light weapon away from the scout. If you ever try a scout it is hard to play and i have tried dual sidearm. It dose not work. Need a primary to defend your self and the secondary nova knife to Ninja a person to death that's a easy target that is a big force multiplier.

But Il try a dual sidearm again to make sure this statement is true about it being a crazy nerf.

you take away the scouts role of shotgunning (CQC) which no dropsuit can do better than the scout.

Commando with shotgun >>> scout with shotgun.

No other suit can run headfirst at a HMG and not die... The scout would die before he even pulled the trigger.

I'm okay with this on one condition: Switch the fitting requirements of the SMG and CR.

It's BS that the SMG is more PG intensive than a Combat Rifle, when the latter has more DPS and 3x the range.

I agree! The combat rifles are very efficient at killing over 70m than an SMG. Scouts should have sidearm proficiencies/optimizations. Some people think this is a ludicrous nerf but they forget that the sidearms have the Highest level of damage mods of dropsuits! If scouts had proficiencies/optimizations as part of their roles then people would sing a different tune! I believe scouts should be run, if they want to aid/assist teams with Intel/hacks/uplinks just like a logi is a point hore-s;) when logistically helping. Logi's better fit their roles now than scouts do. Seriously scouties think about how OP you'd be with Scout role only sidearm proficiencies/optimizations!

Since scouts mostly prefer knova knives and bolt pistols and are supposed to be well: Scouts and not primary Assaults on speed, perhaps they should just have two sidearms instead of a light weapon slot. This would provide greater use of their kind as well as stop them from steeling the Assault glory tittle from Assaults who are already rocking their given role!

Seriously though think of how OP you'd be with Scout role only sidearm proficiencies/optimizations on top of sidearm damage mods (which have the highest level of damage of dropsuits)!
Just a strong thought ;) Opinions anyone?

No you don't get it. scout is not allowed to be a force multiplier. Don't you see, sneaking is a no-no. Assassination is a no-no. Spying is a no-no. Stealing is a no-no. Finding a base for your party to fortify is a no-no. traps is a no-no. Paladin say rogue not allowed to be rogue because rogue only allowed to be target practice. Paladin also say paladin need longsword for left hand weapon because fighter have longsword and dagger, berserker have two longsword, if paladin have greatsword and dagger berserker might laugh at paladin because paladin look silly parrying with little dagger https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2632252#post2632252 that why paladin need greatsword and longsword. Then berserker not laugh at paladin. Then nobody laugh at paladin again. Then paladin teach rogue that rogue only allowed to be target practice.

I mean i want to take general fcf seriously, but this is a terrible joke

[Quote=GENERAL FCF]... Because I'm gonna start tolling hard in that case....
Uplinks(deployable equipment) is a logi job because logistics support is for logistics bro. No seriously, they get bonuses to it because it blatantly is their role. Uplinks are for amarr logis, and the insane idea that they're for scouts is why amarr logis are left to die on the battlefield when heavies should be protecting them to assure that reinforcements arrive quickly. ...

As a rant, 7/10.
As a troll 4/10, because you're trolling isn't even plausible. For example, uplinks and hacking. If you spawn in a scout, any scout, and I spawn on the opposite team in any logi, which of us will hack the objective first? You of course you'll beat me to it. How long it takes me to hack is irrelevant if you can beat me to the objective by more than 30 seconds. So for first hacks, which are disproportionately valuable because there's no contested state for the hack to pass through, scouts are wildly better hackers. For uplinks, ditto. Initial uplink deployment and sometimes subsequent uplink deployment is about speed, where scouts are undisputed champs, with two equipment slots. Only one less than proto Amar and Cal logis.

The dominance of heavies and scouts in PC also begs to differ with your consistently "woe is me" bellyaching. Scouts are fine, they don't need to be limited to side-arms and they don't need a buff.