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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:14:00 -
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None of the challenges should ever guide a player away from playing the actual game. I have a challenge that requires me to blow up 15 installations in order to get a key. This is a ridiculous challenge. In order to complete this challenge I need to completely ignore any real objectives in a match and cruise around with a tank trying to find crap to blow up. Bullshit challenges shouldn't be rewarded keys. Keys should be rewarded for challenges directly related to winning a match such as getting kills/assists and hacking primary objectives.
Also, the turn radius and speed on the tanks in this game is bullshit! |
Proto Annihilator
16 Vandals
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:16:00 -
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Get on a CA railgun. You can get atleast 3 a game. Before speed scout gets shot in the back and the letter gets hacked. |
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:20:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Get on a CA railgun. You can get atleast 3 a game. Before speed scout gets shot in the back and the letter gets hacked.
I tried hopping onto those things but my teammates would just hack all the installations before I could blow them up. I took down six installations in a match using a tank but that match was unbelievably boring. I am used to running straight into battle and doing everything I can to win the match, I am not used to bullshitting around for 10 to 20 minutes in a match accomplishing nothing worth a damn. |
JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
740
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:27:00 -
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Just call in a dame tank and blow them up.
Its soo easy.
Yesterday I had to blow up 1 turret and boom 586,000 ISK = Bingo.
Now today get 36 Kills and get two keys.
Time to steam roll Fatal n00b and prima strafers >:)
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
204
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:40:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Just call in a dame tank and blow them up.
Its soo easy.
Yesterday I had to blow up 1 turret and boom 586,000 ISK = Bingo.
Now today get 36 Kills and get two keys.
Time to steam roll Fatal n00b and prima strafers >:)
Blowing up 1 is nothing. You don't have to divert focus from winning the match to blowing up installations in order to accomplish having to blow up just 1. When you have to blow up 15 winning the match no longer becomes the objective, the objective becomes seeing how many installations you can blow up in one match without going bankrupt because people with swarm launchers are blowing your ass up every two minutes. |
DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:48:00 -
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How do you think pilots feel when they have to hack objectives?
It sucks but it is what it is. Not all missions are meant to be completed. If you can, great. If not, oh well.
ISK / BPO / Create
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
740
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:50:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Just call in a dame tank and blow them up.
Its soo easy.
Yesterday I had to blow up 1 turret and boom 586,000 ISK = Bingo.
Now today get 36 Kills and get two keys.
Time to steam roll Fatal n00b and prima strafers >:) Blowing up 1 is nothing. You don't have to divert focus from winning the match to blowing up installations in order to accomplish having to blow up just 1. When you have to blow up 15 winning the match no longer becomes the objective, the objective becomes seeing how many installations you can blow up in one match without going bankrupt because people with swarm launchers are blowing your ass up every two minutes. I rarely go Bankrupt that I profit every match 200k or more.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:53:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Get on a CA railgun. You can get atleast 3 a game. Before speed scout gets shot in the back and the letter gets hacked. I tried hopping onto those things but my teammates would just hack all the installations before I could blow them up. I took down six installations in a match using a tank but that match was unbelievably boring. I am used to running straight into battle and doing everything I can to win the match, I am not used to bullshitting around for 10 to 20 minutes in a match accomplishing nothing worth a damn.
Maybe HS and ask team?
"Sebiestor Hetzer"
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
204
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Posted - 2015.02.28 19:55:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Summa Militum wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Just call in a dame tank and blow them up.
Its soo easy.
Yesterday I had to blow up 1 turret and boom 586,000 ISK = Bingo.
Now today get 36 Kills and get two keys.
Time to steam roll Fatal n00b and prima strafers >:) Blowing up 1 is nothing. You don't have to divert focus from winning the match to blowing up installations in order to accomplish having to blow up just 1. When you have to blow up 15 winning the match no longer becomes the objective, the objective becomes seeing how many installations you can blow up in one match without going bankrupt because people with swarm launchers are blowing your ass up every two minutes. I rarely go Bankrupt that I profit every match 200k or more.
Wow! I didn't actually go bankrupt you jackass. I just said that to emphasize the amount of ISK at risk to accomplish something that will not help you or your teammates win the match. |
Proto Annihilator
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Posted - 2015.02.28 20:28:00 -
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I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. |
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
206
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Posted - 2015.02.28 20:57:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp.
You're playing a different game than I am. |
Koldy Lyte Marven
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.02.28 21:12:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:None of the challenges should ever guide a player away from playing the actual game. I have a challenge that requires me to blow up 15 installations in order to get a key. This is a ridiculous challenge. In order to complete this challenge I need to completely ignore any real objectives in a match and cruise around with a tank trying to find crap to blow up. Bullshit challenges shouldn't be rewarded keys. Keys should be rewarded for challenges directly related to winning a match such as getting kills/assists and hacking primary objectives.
Also, the turn radius and speed on the tanks in this game is bullshit!
This is true because challenges are supposed to force to give your 100% and make you advance in the game. For exemple in Clash of Clans (I'm not making any advertising, they're not the same type of game anyway), one of the goal is to win trophies. In that game, if you win 1250 tophies, you win 450 gems, wich you can use to buy stuff. It makes everybody try their best to win those trophies, since gems cost real money. I personaly think we should have more ways to win keys: - Win 1 match= 1 key - Hack 6 primary objectives= 3 keys - Kill 40 clones= 6 keys A total of 10 "free" keys a day would make everybody wanting to play. These are just suggestion, but they could make the game a way better and challenging. |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1340
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Posted - 2015.02.28 21:17:00 -
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Koldy Lyte Marven wrote:Summa Militum wrote:None of the challenges should ever guide a player away from playing the actual game. I have a challenge that requires me to blow up 15 installations in order to get a key. This is a ridiculous challenge. In order to complete this challenge I need to completely ignore any real objectives in a match and cruise around with a tank trying to find crap to blow up. Bullshit challenges shouldn't be rewarded keys. Keys should be rewarded for challenges directly related to winning a match such as getting kills/assists and hacking primary objectives.
Also, the turn radius and speed on the tanks in this game is bullshit! This is true because challenges are supposed to force to give your 100% and make you advance in the game. For exemple in Clash of Clans (I'm not making any advertising, they're not the same type of game anyway), one of the goal is to win trophies. In that game, if you win 1250 tophies, you win 450 gems, wich you can use to buy stuff. It makes everybody try their best to win those trophies, since gems cost real money. I personaly think we should have more ways to win keys: - Win 1 match= 1 key - Hack 6 primary objectives= 3 keys - Kill 40 clones= 6 keys A total of 10 "free" keys a day would make everybody wanting to play. These are just suggestion, but they could make the game a way better and challenging.
CCP wants to sell keys, not give away so many that no one need buy them.
CCP is a "for profit" business and I think some players forget that, though I am sure I don't know how.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
3433
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Posted - 2015.02.28 21:19:00 -
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It's easy if you have a proto rail and HAV normally, as any turret that the blueberries can't secure is dangerous and has to be eliminated anyways, same with supply depots or enemy CRUs between their spawn and the objective.
Otherwise yeah it's a PITA.
Personally I hate the "Get X assists" as that is the hardest for me, followed by Objective hacking.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1995
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Posted - 2015.02.28 21:21:00 -
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Want to trade? You can have the Hack 17 Primary Objectives mission and I'll take the turret destruction mission~
Wish I could get those more often. At least they don't inspire mass rage like trying to hack objectives does.
I want to punch.
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Koldy Lyte Marven
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.02.28 21:21:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Koldy Lyte Marven wrote:Summa Militum wrote:None of the challenges should ever guide a player away from playing the actual game. I have a challenge that requires me to blow up 15 installations in order to get a key. This is a ridiculous challenge. In order to complete this challenge I need to completely ignore any real objectives in a match and cruise around with a tank trying to find crap to blow up. Bullshit challenges shouldn't be rewarded keys. Keys should be rewarded for challenges directly related to winning a match such as getting kills/assists and hacking primary objectives.
Also, the turn radius and speed on the tanks in this game is bullshit! This is true because challenges are supposed to force to give your 100% and make you advance in the game. For exemple in Clash of Clans (I'm not making any advertising, they're not the same type of game anyway), one of the goal is to win trophies. In that game, if you win 1250 tophies, you win 450 gems, wich you can use to buy stuff. It makes everybody try their best to win those trophies, since gems cost real money. I personaly think we should have more ways to win keys: - Win 1 match= 1 key - Hack 6 primary objectives= 3 keys - Kill 40 clones= 6 keys A total of 10 "free" keys a day would make everybody wanting to play. These are just suggestion, but they could make the game a way better and challenging. CCP wants to sell keys, not give away so many that no one need buy them. CCP is a "for profit" business and I think some players forget that, though I am sure I don't know how.
Man to be honest with you if that game cost 70$, and you have the possibility to buy keys (faster) or win them (slower), I would buy it. Even if keys aren't free, why would "Blowing 15 installations" give me keys. Blowing those sh** over will not help my team.
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Proto Annihilator
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Posted - 2015.02.28 21:48:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. You're playing a different game than I am. Yep. I like to play with all the chess pieces. Where as you would make a better Pawn |
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
208
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:09:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. You're playing a different game than I am. Yep. I like to play with all the chess pieces. Where as you would make a better Pawn
Shut the **** up. |
Proto Annihilator
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:22:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. You're playing a different game than I am. Yep. I like to play with all the chess pieces. Where as you would make a better Pawn Shut the **** up.
Your inability to see the battlefield as a whole and your demeanor in general are huge deficits to being in any leadership position. Your lack of game knowledge and hostility to your obvious superiors suggests you should spend more time in the trenches. I'm guessing you are the guy crying on comms for reps or ammo, and complaining about how noone else is doing anything. It's funny because we just mute kids like you. |
Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
1340
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:57:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. You're playing a different game than I am. Yep. I like to play with all the chess pieces. Where as you would make a better Pawn Shut the **** up. Your inability to see the battlefield as a whole and your demeanor in general are huge deficits to being in any leadership position. Your lack of game knowledge and hostility to your obvious superiors suggests you should spend more time in the trenches. I'm guessing you are the guy crying on comms for reps or ammo, and complaining about how noone else is doing anything. It's funny because we just mute kids like you.
You derive quite a bit of your self worth from DUST 514, don't you? Even your name suggests this.
"Superiors"? Get a life. It's just a free video game in a world of thousands.
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
741
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:57:00 -
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Summa Militum wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Summa Militum wrote:JIMvc2 wrote:Just call in a dame tank and blow them up.
Its soo easy.
Yesterday I had to blow up 1 turret and boom 586,000 ISK = Bingo.
Now today get 36 Kills and get two keys.
Time to steam roll Fatal n00b and prima strafers >:) Blowing up 1 is nothing. You don't have to divert focus from winning the match to blowing up installations in order to accomplish having to blow up just 1. When you have to blow up 15 winning the match no longer becomes the objective, the objective becomes seeing how many installations you can blow up in one match without going bankrupt because people with swarm launchers are blowing your ass up every two minutes. I rarely go Bankrupt that I profit every match 200k or more. Wow! I didn't actually go bankrupt you jackass. I just said that to emphasize the amount of ISK at risk to accomplish something that will not help you or your teammates win the match.
I said "I" as in me not you fool.
MAG Raven vet 7 times. Favorite weapon F90 and Highest Kills 78 and 23 deaths.
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Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
208
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Posted - 2015.02.28 23:03:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. You're playing a different game than I am. Yep. I like to play with all the chess pieces. Where as you would make a better Pawn Shut the **** up. Your inability to see the battlefield as a whole and your demeanor in general are huge deficits to being in any leadership position. Your lack of game knowledge and hostility to your obvious superiors suggests you should spend more time in the trenches. I'm guessing you are the guy crying on comms for reps or ammo, and complaining about how noone else is doing anything. It's funny because we just mute kids like you.
People like you make me wish this game had a tracking system so that I can follow **** talkers like you into matches to show you what real skill looks like. |
Summa Militum
Hidd3n Dragon
208
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Posted - 2015.02.28 23:06:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:Summa Militum wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:I large blaster can shut down a push.
CA railguns can be as deadly as rail tanks.
There are good reasons to kill turrets. You can clear the map of turrets in about 5 minutes and have well over 1k wp. You're playing a different game than I am. Yep. I like to play with all the chess pieces. Where as you would make a better Pawn Shut the **** up. Your inability to see the battlefield as a whole and your demeanor in general are huge deficits to being in any leadership position. Your lack of game knowledge and hostility to your obvious superiors suggests you should spend more time in the trenches. I'm guessing you are the guy crying on comms for reps or ammo, and complaining about how noone else is doing anything. It's funny because we just mute kids like you.
I would also like to remind you that I am talking about the task of blowing up 15 installations, I am not talking about the use of installations in general. Having a challenge that involves blowing up 15 installations draws people away from actually participating in the match. Explain to me how blowing up 15 installations in representative to seeing the battlefield as a whole. |
Proto Annihilator
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Posted - 2015.02.28 23:24:00 -
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Why not just try to understand instead of trying to prove you are correct? I will explain if you truly cannot fathom the basic uses of installations. Also if you want to squad up some time I can show you which ones are priorities. Easy ways to kill them and ones to keep up.
There are multiple threads concerning the destruction of turrets and reasons to do so. your only interest in them seems to stem from the inconvenience of having to destroy them to get a measly bonus toy for yourself.
Some understand the tactical value of various turret types and placement. The nuisances posed to my teams vehicles alone is grounds to destroy capture them. An uplink by a turret you want held. Scout games. Plenty of strategies involve destroying turrets first. |
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