DUST Search - Armor plates are almost worthless...

Sgt Kirk wrote:

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Izlare Lenix wrote:

Armor has every advantage in game.

Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank.

But a movement penalty is too much for you?

Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty.

lies who has better regen, if you say armor i intend to laugh you right out of this thread... i don't mind a movement pealty but double strafe penalties are absurd...

That's why Ferroscale and Reactives exist.

I only use the basic plates for heavy suits.

But here's some advice. Just because it's complex doesn't mean you should fit it on your suit.

For Light suits only use the Basic plates or lesser plates
For Medium suits you can use the Enhanced plates and lesser plates
For Heavies you can use the Complex Plate and lesser plates (because of low module layout) and you're already cumbersome.

If you have a complex plate on a Medium and especially a Light Frame suit you are doing something not in the competitive category of DUST 514

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Vitharr Foebane Shining Flame Amarr Empire 2253	Posted - 2015.02.26 06:37:00 - [1] - Quote with the draconian strafe penalties not even Amarr sentinels want to use normal plates... surety I'm not the only one who takes issue with this. Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3399	Posted - 2015.02.26 06:42:00 - [2] - Quote I like them... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 890	Posted - 2015.02.26 06:50:00 - [3] - Quote Strafing > hp. Normal plates are useless. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1321	Posted - 2015.02.26 06:51:00 - [4] - Quote Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
Vitharr Foebane Shining Flame Amarr Empire 2253	Posted - 2015.02.26 06:53:00 - [5] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: I like them... don't misunderstand I love armor tanking as well. However, do you feel that if you armor tanked like a true Amarr you could take dow a hit detection breaking shield using super strafer? Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Vitharr Foebane Shining Flame Amarr Empire 2253	Posted - 2015.02.26 06:57:00 - [6] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. lies who has better regen, if you say armor i intend to laugh you right out of this thread... i don't mind a movement pealty but double strafe penalties are absurd... Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9682	Posted - 2015.02.26 07:13:00 - [7] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. lies who has better regen, if you say armor i intend to laugh you right out of this thread... i don't mind a movement pealty but double strafe penalties are absurd... That's why Ferroscale and Reactives exist. I only use the basic plates for heavy suits. But here's some advice. Just because it's complex doesn't mean you should fit it on your suit. For Light suits only use the Basic plates or lesser plates For Medium suits you can use the Enhanced plates and lesser plates For Heavies you can use the Complex Plate and lesser plates (because of low module layout) and you're already cumbersome. If you have a complex plate on a Medium and especially a Light Frame suit you are doing something not in the competitive category of DUST 514 *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1321	Posted - 2015.02.26 07:19:00 - [8] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. lies who has better regen, if you say armor i intend to laugh you right out of this thread... i don't mind a movement pealty but double strafe penalties are absurd... I didn't say armor had better regen. I said it has zero delay unlike shields which has 5-8 secs delay and requires significant modules and ehp sacrafice to reduce this delay. Also 1 hp of damage resets the shield recharge delay wereas armor reps through damage. And as I already pointed out shields have zero assistance with repping unlike armor which has multiple ways to be replenished. And while shields can regen more per second after delay I can still get around 35hp a sec rep on my gal assault with still a decent amount of HP and zero delay. And I will say it again, if you want maximum HP use plates, if you want zero movement penalties use ferroscales. You can't have both. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6367	Posted - 2015.02.26 07:39:00 - [9] - Quote I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9682	Posted - 2015.02.26 07:48:00 - [10] - Quote Joel II X wrote: I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer. If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. My more defensive Commando uses regular plates But with the Commando I try to use my already decent health as the base line and just try on improving my speed and armor regen. Even though I personally don't have a use for reactive plates yet I still appreciate their existence in the game. *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*

Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6367	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:00:00 - [11] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. What...?
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 1106	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:19:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. Sgt Kirk wrote: are low on sluts Sgt Kirk wrote: on sluts Sgt Kirk wrote: sluts O_____________O;;;;;;;; http://youtu.be/dtXupQg77SU Dust to Dust Remember the dream you had before the day you were born.
Racro 01 Arifistan Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd. 505	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:24:00 - [13] - Quote i only use 2 enhanced amrour plates with triple complex reps on my gk.o assault. ever since the starfe penatlties were introduced I still havnt noticed a change in both the way the suit operates and the way I play the suit. and at most iam loseing next to no speed as it is with just 2 plates.] armour seems fine to me atm. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Vitharr Foebane Shining Flame Amarr Empire 2254	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:29:00 - [14] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. lies who has better regen, if you say armor i intend to laugh you right out of this thread... i don't mind a movement pealty but double strafe penalties are absurd... That's why Ferroscale and Reactives exist. I only use the basic plates for heavy suits. But here's some advice. Just because it's complex doesn't mean you should fit it on your suit. For Light suits only use the Basic plates or lesser plates For Medium suits you can use the Enhanced plates and lesser plates For Heavies you can use the Complex Plate and lesser plates (because of low module layout) and you're already cumbersome. If you have a complex plate on a Medium and especially a Light Frame suit you are doing something not in the competitive category of DUST 514 Don't get me wrong i get what you are saying but don't you think double strafe penalties are abit much? if we must be punished for sticking to our racial tanking doctrine at least make it a much more bearable 50% extra strafe penalty... Amarr Omnisoldier: Assault, Commando, Logistics, Scout, Sentinel at V My faith is in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 543	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:32:00 - [15] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. Sgt Kirk wrote: are low on sluts Sgt Kirk wrote: on sluts Sgt Kirk wrote: sluts O_____________O;;;;;;;; lmao!!!, best thread ever lol Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 9685	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:33:00 - [16] - Quote Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. Sgt Kirk wrote: are low on sluts Sgt Kirk wrote: on sluts Sgt Kirk wrote: sluts O_____________O;;;;;;;; Dammit I can't deal with you people today *As long as 4/5 (80%) of infantry AV weapons are Anti Armor based you're never going to achieve vehicle balance CCP*
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1278	Posted - 2015.02.26 08:35:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Joel II X wrote: I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer. If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. My more defensive Commando uses regular plates But with the Commando I try to use my already decent health as the base line and just try on improving my speed and armor regen. Even though I personally don't have a use for reactive plates yet I still appreciate their existence in the game. I stay with high sluts mostly. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....
We are 138 TRUE TEA BAGGERS 757	Posted - 2015.02.26 09:00:00 - [18] - Quote For me armor plates are very situational, I have different variants of several heavys. If I know I have a good logi and I'm going to be defending a point I'll roll out the big fat amarr sentinal stacked all the way with complex plates. I don't need to strafe I just stand there and eat faces on objective while my logi bro racks up the WP. Hello? any one there?
Genral69 death Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 82	Posted - 2015.02.26 09:16:00 - [19] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: with the draconian strafe penalties not even Amarr sentinels want to use normal plates... surety I'm not the only one who takes issue with this. Strafing is not always the answer. I find a mixture of plates and my scrambler does the trick
cris bleu Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 85	Posted - 2015.02.26 09:53:00 - [20] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Joel II X wrote: I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer. If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. My more defensive Commando uses regular plates But with the Commando I try to use my already decent health as the base line and just try on improving my speed and armor regen. Even though I personally don't have a use for reactive plates yet I still appreciate their existence in the game. I stay with high sluts mostly. No, low sluts. You can dampen low sluts.

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7678	Posted - 2015.02.26 10:42:00 - [21] - Quote You are doing it wrong. The Amarr shouldn't try to use more than two regular plates and the Gallente shouldn't try to use more than one regular plate. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Stormblade Green KnightKiller's inc. 18	Posted - 2015.02.26 12:51:00 - [22] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. I sense a shield tanking rager. One might say... I'm very skilled... yet I'm his apprentice... So what does that say about my mentor?
Breakin Stuff Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 7368	Posted - 2015.02.26 13:03:00 - [23] - Quote Amarr sentinels... could... strafe... before? 10/10. Props for coming up with a new absurdity! AV
Jathniel Ahrendee Mercenaries 1483	Posted - 2015.02.26 14:26:00 - [24] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Joel II X wrote: I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer. If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. My more defensive Commando uses regular plates But with the Commando I try to use my already decent health as the base line and just try on improving my speed and armor regen. Even though I personally don't have a use for reactive plates yet I still appreciate their existence in the game. I stay with high sluts mostly. High sluts and Low sluts both have advantages and disadavantages. Just gotta know when to use both... A sIut is a sIut. Retired
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1332	Posted - 2015.02.26 16:37:00 - [25] - Quote Stormblade Green wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Armor has every advantage in game. Max HP, repping hives, logi reps, armor reppers with zero delay (unlike shields) the ability to use damage mods without sacrificing main tank. But a movement penalty is too much for you? Fine, then use ferroscales. They are easier to fit and still provide more hp than complex shield extenders with ZERO movement penalty. I sense a shield tanking rager. Actually no, your spidey senses are wrong. I run a speed tank min scout, gal scout and ARMOR gal assault most of the time. I used to run cal assault/cal scout but respected out of them a long time ago because shields are inferior to armor in every way. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
Bright Steel Horizons' Edge VP Gaming Alliance 966	Posted - 2015.02.26 17:06:00 - [26] - Quote A popeerly fitted calASS is extremely powerful! He problem is their not as good in CQC and most of our sockets force CQC. Dust 514, the BEST WORST game you can't stop playing.
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 464	Posted - 2015.02.26 17:45:00 - [27] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Joel II X wrote: I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer. If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. My more defensive Commando uses regular plates But with the Commando I try to use my already decent health as the base line and just try on improving my speed and armor regen. Even though I personally don't have a use for reactive plates yet I still appreciate their existence in the game. Third Rock is never low on sluts, thanks to fishstick's mom.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. 3995	Posted - 2015.02.26 17:47:00 - [28] - Quote Strafing only works because of broken hit detection. Normal plates are okay, it is shield extenders which are below par in comparision.
Reign Omega T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 1281	Posted - 2015.02.26 20:21:00 - [29] - Quote Vesta Opalus wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Joel II X wrote: I hear Ferroscale are king, but I just can't say no to the rep that Reactives offer. If you are low on sluts the Ractive Plates are incredibly good. My more defensive Commando uses regular plates But with the Commando I try to use my already decent health as the base line and just try on improving my speed and armor regen. Even though I personally don't have a use for reactive plates yet I still appreciate their existence in the game. Third Rock is never low on sluts, thanks to fishstick's mom. Boom. Mark a$$ tricks, and bags of dicks....


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