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Posted - 2015.02.27 20:56:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:
Using m&kb in cqc is as effective [if not better] as DS3. Tested. Done it.
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That's some good crack.
DS3 is king in CQC, and if you don't see that you are bad at this game.
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Posted - 2015.02.28 00:56:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Mejt0 wrote:
Using m&kb in cqc is as effective [if not better] as DS3. Tested. Done it.
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That's some good crack. DS3 is king in CQC, and if you don't see that you are bad at this game. If you include ranges between 2m and 20m (as some people do) then you are right. If you conside CQC less than 2m or knifing distance, then you are wrong as they are roughly equal. Properly tuned KBM's advantage comes from instant 180/360/720 turning ability which gives the potential to regain target half a second earlier.
Doing a 360 to acquire your target offers little advantage if once you acquire your target you get a bunch of blue shielding because hit detection is broken and the mouse doesn't have AA to hide it.
If that weren't the case, then yes, you'd be right, and it's the reason why I can use the mouse with the Mass Driver and Plasma Cannon and still be mildly effective. But no hit-scan weapon is better with a mouse than a DS3 in close range-medium range. Not in Dust.
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Posted - 2015.02.28 01:42:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:KA24DERT wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:KA24DERT wrote:Mejt0 wrote:
Using m&kb in cqc is as effective [if not better] as DS3. Tested. Done it.
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That's some good crack. DS3 is king in CQC, and if you don't see that you are bad at this game. If you include ranges between 2m and 20m (as some people do) then you are right. If you conside CQC less than 2m or knifing distance, then you are wrong as they are roughly equal. Properly tuned KBM's advantage comes from instant 180/360/720 turning ability which gives the potential to regain target half a second earlier. Doing a 360 to acquire your target offers little advantage if once you acquire your target you get a bunch of blue shielding because hit detection is broken and the mouse doesn't have AA to hide it. If that weren't the case, then yes, you'd be right, and it's the reason why I can use the mouse with the Mass Driver and Plasma Cannon and still be mildly effective. But no hit-scan weapon is better with a mouse than a DS3 in close range-medium range. Not in Dust. I have to be honest I do feel that the PLC really favours KB/M over DS3. I may have become complacent in the game these days but its the only weapon I ever feel comfortable with using KB/M I recall seeing you in the game a while back with a mass driver. Do you feel that this weapon also suits KB/M? I may have to give it a go. Otherwise the only person I know of who can do good things with rifles and KB/M is funkmaster whale (Or how ever you spell his name) and I asked him, he runs with the bare minimal of sensitivity settings (basically limiting his controls but allowing accurate fire)
I used Mass Driver exclusively before speccing Plasma Cannon, and now I dual-wield both with a Minmando. I say that those are the only light weapons worth using with a mouse. I would go as far as saying the mouse has a slight advantage over DS3 when it comes to splash weapons due to the fast turn speed and hit detection not affecting splash (MD and Plasma projectiles still fly through targets occasionally due to bad hit-detection/network-prediction, but this affects DS3 too).
If Funkmaster gets around with a rifle and a mouse these days, they're simply a top-tier player and could play this game with a Potato if they wanted to.
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