DUST Search - why so expensive?

7th Son 7 wrote:

Sicerly Yaw wrote:

7th Son 7 wrote:

Did price of equipment change when Bandwidth was enforced? or is it the same? just curious

not as far as I know but I think that should have been looked at the hives use to be spammed and I think the price reflected the use, but now with bandwidth it doesn't correlate very well imo.

Im looking at the cal logi and how useful it really is compared to other suits out of pure curiosity I can afford all of the equipment that I use and or need I have enough isk to fund any crazy play style that I can conjure up but it just seems that the callogi is underwhelming now that bandwidth is in place

In my opinion the cal logi was hit the hardest directly, I'm not a specialist or anything it just seems that way to me from my experience and from what I've heard from other players

Cool, yeah lol i'm a proto Cal Logi and would agree that I don't rec much of a bonus from running it, except certain situations. At least i've got my speed and strafe lol.

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Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 34	Posted - 2015.02.25 21:56:00 - [1] - Quote why are nanohives so much more expensive compared to other equipment when they give out far less of an advantage and less wp rewards
Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7766	Posted - 2015.02.25 22:01:00 - [2] - Quote It's useful, and specialized, along of the specialized items are quite expensive or have a drawback. (e.g. Proto REs/tanks.) Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
TooMany Names AlreadyTaken Going for the gold 799	Posted - 2015.02.25 22:07:00 - [3] - Quote Ammo is very valuable. 'Specially when nobody puts down any hives to resupply my heavy, forcing him to go meleeing people!! ...which worked out better than expected. Found my favorite DJ - ATB
Twelve Guage Death Firm. 518	Posted - 2015.02.25 22:27:00 - [4] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: why are nanohives so much more expensive compared to other equipment when they give out far less of an advantage and less wp rewards This is a legit question can we get a blue tag to comment of this. Sandwich maker LVL. 5 You've been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$. My like button is back. C:<
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22332	Posted - 2015.02.25 22:44:00 - [5] - Quote Nanohives are basically essential though? WP rewards are a little lacking compared to other equipment, but I don't think you can really say that they're weak. A comprehensive Gallente guide
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1198	Posted - 2015.02.25 23:03:00 - [6] - Quote A little weak? 10wp per hit, easily destroyed, limited capacity. How often do you need to recharge an injector or repair gun and how they doing for wp? Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION 529	Posted - 2015.02.25 23:40:00 - [7] - Quote When deployed properly by highly skilled calogis in the right situations. Those situations are rare though and nano hives are low wp earning. Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending. `- Open Beta Vet - 37.5 mil sp - - Director of Corrosive Synergy -`
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.25 23:45:00 - [8] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: A little weak? 10wp per hit, easily destroyed, limited capacity. How often do you need to recharge an injector or repair gun and how they doing for wp? thank you for stating the obvious some people don't see it I guess the point is that I'm comparing it to other equipment the one that would most closely resemble it is the drop uplinks the basic nano hive and the basic drop uplink cost the same but you get way more wp out of an uplink then you do the nanohive then there's the other equipment that you don't have to restock on which costs far less for the most part especially since you can just have one and use it the whole match if you don't die and these can give you far more then the nanohive it would be far more useful if it had increased or unlimited nanites since it could still be destroyed by a simple flux nade it would not be OP since you still have bandwidth to worry about and ammunition doesn't give you that great of an advantage especially if the other team can do the same and the armor rep hives cost about 6.5-29k to use so if you're laying them down they arent doing much for the amount of isk you are spending on them this is why now a days with the bandwidth in place almost no one carries nanohives unless its for themselves or their squad theres just no use for them for the most part compared to other equipment I know that in the past nanohives would be spammed so people could spam nades and and explosives but that still doesnt account for the price of nanohives as they currently are imho in addition if they are going to cost as much as drop uplinks then why can I not expect the same wp payouts?
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 529	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:02:00 - [9] - Quote number one most asked for thing: "Does anyone got any ammo?" Then you have, "Where are all the uplinks" after that "Can I get some reps?" Of course last but not least, when you get ready to drop that OB "Anyone got scans?" G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 692	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:22:00 - [10] - Quote Well, I think that the WP thing about ammo is less that nanohives are low wp and more that needles and Reptools are high HP. I understand why needles are high WP -- CCp wants people to be encouraged to use them. They are easily one of the best pieces of equipment yet one of the least used. Reptools are just broken powerful and give insane rewards because of it. I heard someone say that, back before bandwidth, he had a logi with 3 types of hives, and would just run and leave a trail of them all over ambushes and doms and pull in insane WP numbers. So, quantity over quality maybe?

Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 890	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:42:00 - [11] - Quote Cuz nanohives are not for wp farming. And they are useful. Having 4 hives means that you'll enough ammo very long time. Ps. Everyone should carry Nanohives/Scanner for themselfs. And why we don't see many hives around? Cuz there's no point in doing so. Cuz reta.rded blues will use all nanites for their militia locus grenades. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7325	Posted - 2015.02.26 00:45:00 - [12] - Quote nanohives most valuable equipment by far. Put one down, stand on it for 10 seconds then go on to slay the next 20 militia suits. Cuz i am l33t and you are not. CBM EVE, Dust & Corp Services Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
Proto Annihilator 16 Vandals 382	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:10:00 - [13] - Quote They benefit every suit and playstyle.
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:26:00 - [14] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Cuz nanohives are not for wp farming. And they are useful. Having 4 hives means that you'll enough ammo very long time. Ps. Everyone should carry Nanohives/Scanner for themselfs. And why we don't see many hives around? Cuz there's no point in doing so. Cuz reta.rded blues will use all nanites for their militia locus grenades. you're proving my point they are not worth their current value, I just want to either be able to buy them cheaper or for them to have a point, its kinda the reason why everyone thinks cal logi sucks these days since the boost they get is for hives
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:27:00 - [15] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: nanohives most valuable equipment by far. Put one down, stand on it for 10 seconds then go on to slay the next 20 militia suits. Cuz i am l33t and you are not. viktor your trolls dont work on me but nice try bud A for effort
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 01:39:00 - [16] - Quote all in all I don't mind how hives work or their price even I'm just wondering why they seem to be ignored the only change that I have seem from my time in dust the only change I've noticed is the bandwidth introduction
Mortishai Belmont G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance 530	Posted - 2015.02.26 02:02:00 - [17] - Quote Also, grenade spam should be expensive <3 G.L.O.R.Y Soldier, I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3 -Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3268	Posted - 2015.02.26 02:05:00 - [18] - Quote Equipment, as a whole, is too expensive. Or most equipment is shockingly inferior until at the Prototype level compared to weapons. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:54:00 - [19] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Also, grenade spam should be expensive <3 grenades themselves are already expensive as it is
Derpty Derp Dead Man's Game 849	Posted - 2015.02.26 21:55:00 - [20] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: when they give out far less of an advantage and less wp rewards Imagine if a rep tool could be used to heal yourself... Yeah, that's not much of an advantage is it.

Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:02:00 - [21] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: when they give out far less of an advantage and less wp rewards Imagine if a rep tool could be used to heal yourself... Yeah, that's not much of an advantage is it. triage hives don't last as long as you might think and a rep tool that costs the same amount will give you far more points for way less effort the compact hive heals but even less so really the numbers don't seem to add up, as far as the tool that reps you the proto rep modules give 7.5 hp each plus the extra boost from the skill so repping yourself isn't that hard seeing as how the triage hives dont heal for that much armor anyway the rep tools are far better at that then the hives
Big miku Nation of Miku 422	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:04:00 - [22] - Quote All equipment is too expensive. Carrying proto equipment is like carrying around 3 or more Advance Tier weapons, but with less killy bits. But I am a billionaire, so it don't affect me at all. Feel sorry for the poor logis though.
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 550	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:04:00 - [23] - Quote Did price of equipment change when Bandwidth was enforced? or is it the same? just curious Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:12:00 - [24] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Did price of equipment change when Bandwidth was enforced? or is it the same? just curious not as far as I know but I think that should have been looked at the hives use to be spammed and I think the price reflected the use, but now with bandwidth it doesn't correlate very well imo. Im looking at the cal logi and how useful it really is compared to other suits out of pure curiosity I can afford all of the equipment that I use and or need I have enough isk to fund any crazy play style that I can conjure up but it just seems that the callogi is underwhelming now that bandwidth is in place In my opinion the cal logi was hit the hardest directly, I'm not a specialist or anything it just seems that way to me from my experience and from what I've heard from other players
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:14:00 - [25] - Quote Big miku wrote: All equipment is too expensive. Carrying proto equipment is like carrying around 3 or more Advance Tier weapons, but with less killy bits. But I am a billionaire, so it don't affect me at all. Feel sorry for the poor logis though. I think the prices are fine as they are and that bandwidth is a good thing as well I'm asking this out of pure curiosity and to maybe get others to start thinking about how things in dust are priced
7th Son 7 BLITZKRIEG7 550	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:20:00 - [26] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Did price of equipment change when Bandwidth was enforced? or is it the same? just curious not as far as I know but I think that should have been looked at the hives use to be spammed and I think the price reflected the use, but now with bandwidth it doesn't correlate very well imo. Im looking at the cal logi and how useful it really is compared to other suits out of pure curiosity I can afford all of the equipment that I use and or need I have enough isk to fund any crazy play style that I can conjure up but it just seems that the callogi is underwhelming now that bandwidth is in place In my opinion the cal logi was hit the hardest directly, I'm not a specialist or anything it just seems that way to me from my experience and from what I've heard from other players Cool, yeah lol i'm a proto Cal Logi and would agree that I don't rec much of a bonus from running it, except certain situations. At least i've got my speed and strafe lol. Always mystify, mislead and surprise the enemy if possible........--- Stonewall Jackson
Sicerly Yaw Quantum times 36	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:29:00 - [27] - Quote 7th Son 7 wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: 7th Son 7 wrote: Did price of equipment change when Bandwidth was enforced? or is it the same? just curious not as far as I know but I think that should have been looked at the hives use to be spammed and I think the price reflected the use, but now with bandwidth it doesn't correlate very well imo. Im looking at the cal logi and how useful it really is compared to other suits out of pure curiosity I can afford all of the equipment that I use and or need I have enough isk to fund any crazy play style that I can conjure up but it just seems that the callogi is underwhelming now that bandwidth is in place In my opinion the cal logi was hit the hardest directly, I'm not a specialist or anything it just seems that way to me from my experience and from what I've heard from other players Cool, yeah lol i'm a proto Cal Logi and would agree that I don't rec much of a bonus from running it, except certain situations. At least i've got my speed and strafe lol. gal logis perma scans+current meta min logis speed+reps+versatility ammar logis more spawns+side arm cal logis more ammo? it just seems too underwhelming plus you get far less points out of it them the other options but maybe I'm missing something I guess the cal logi is the best for snipers that miss most of their shots?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2516	Posted - 2015.02.26 22:59:00 - [28] - Quote Mortishai Belmont wrote: Also, grenade spam should be expensive <3 Agree - grenade spam should be expensive. But it is also true that CCP engaged in some muzzy-headed game design when they nerfed nanites per hive to help limit grenade spam. Hives replenish grenades at the expense of ammo, we've all experienced grenade replenishment sucking a hive dry when what we really needed was ammo for our primary weapon. If CCP were to make grenades last in the hive pecking order and reduce the rate at which grenades were replenished, it would still limit grenade spam while making hives more useful to infantry and more effective at squad support. PSN: RationalSpark
Vesta Opalus T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION 473	Posted - 2015.02.27 01:54:00 - [29] - Quote Sicerly Yaw wrote: why are nanohives so much more expensive compared to other equipment when they give out far less of an advantage and less wp rewards I think the WP reward should be bumped up quite a bit, the price is fine though.
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 1204	Posted - 2015.02.27 08:50:00 - [30] - Quote Derpty Derp wrote: Sicerly Yaw wrote: when they give out far less of an advantage and less wp rewards Imagine if a rep tool could be used to heal yourself... Yeah, that's not much of an advantage is it. Its less than nothing, since even the alloteks will blowup via stray shot. Nemo me impune lacessit CCP - Announcing games at the same time as killing the ones you love CCP - No Credibility

The Eristic Dust 90210 823	Posted - 2015.02.27 09:10:00 - [31] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Mortishai Belmont wrote: Also, grenade spam should be expensive <3 Agree - grenade spam should be expensive. But it is also true that CCP engaged in some muzzy-headed game design when they nerfed nanites per hive to help limit grenade spam. Hives replenish grenades at the expense of ammo, we've all experienced grenade replenishment sucking a hive dry when what we really needed was ammo for our primary weapon. If CCP were to make grenades last in the hive pecking order and reduce the rate at which grenades were replenished, it would still limit grenade spam while making hives more useful to infantry and more effective at squad support. +1 billion. I'd prefer a hive type that does not replenish grenades at all. I'm dropping hives to keep the squad/team running as long as possible, not to enable a single chump to spam a couple more CLGs. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 662	Posted - 2015.02.27 10:40:00 - [32] - Quote Anyway - Who need equipment? As heavy I can easy go bact to redline to get anytihng. No bandwitch, no eq slots - and I play different Dust from begining. Why you get so much without any effort? YOU SELFISH EQUIPMENT USERS! Not much time left...


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