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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:37:00 -
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kiarbanor wrote:My idea is that we create a new post-academy and open it up to veterans as well as new players. During this mode, your skills are not applied. Your suits are not there. You get nothing except Frontline outfits. No vehicles. Nothing. Everyone is on the same page. The payout and salvage should be less than regular pubs, of course, but this will be a good place for new players to learn the game even more so than the academy. Not only that, they can interact and squad with veterans and will have the chance to hold their own without getting smashed by high SP mercs.
Whenever they want to dip their toe into a real match, they have the ability to do so and get stomped. But, they then have the chance to go back to this other game mode and get better. IGÇÖm sure there are plenty of veterans that would love this new game mode, too, because it eliminates everything except FPS skill. Well written and well thought out. I think this new "Pure FPS" gamemode you are proposing is interesting and I would like to know other's opinions of it. As a veteran I probably would probably not participate in this gamemode because I like having a large variety of fittings, weapons, dropsuits, and vehicles causing chaos on the field, but I can see the appeal in it.
I'm going to shamelessly plug tiericide again. This might help to bridge the gap between new players and veterans. In the meantime, something like what you are proposing could be helpful.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.25 16:46:00 -
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emm kay wrote:I posteda while ago about banning squads in pub matches. i know that ccp hates the idea, but it is the quickest way to fix pubmatches. Squads can be just as much of a benefit to a new player as a means to protostomp. That's probably why CCP is against it.
An optional gamemode where squads are disabled would be an alternative... if we had a healthy enough playerbase to attempt such a thing.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:00:00 -
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emm kay wrote:i disagree. Squads in general hinder the players more than they help. The goal here isn't to see the newbie live longer. i don't know where people get this idea. the idea is to have them PARTICIPATE in this battle. if a squad is against a newbie they spend more time respawning, selecting suits, etc. not participating in the team.
if a squad is For the newbie then the squad destroys everything, and the newbie gets little to no role in the battle flow. You are looking at this from the wrong perspective, I think. When I said squads help newbies, I meant that the players in the squads can communicate with one another; veterans can share fitting suggestions, strategy, map knowledge, etc over comms. I've taught more than one new player little tricks and tips over the course of my Dust lifetime.
Those players continued playing for months and months. Now imagine what would have happened to them if I didn't explain scan profile vs. scan precision or how nanohives distribute ammo or the best time to start firing on an ADS with a swarm launcher or how ScP deal extra damage on headshots or any number of little tidbits of information.
Right now we do not have a comprehensive tutorial for Dust 514. Veterans can be that tutorial, but if new players are barred from joining squads in the most commonly played gamemade (pubs) then that tutorial gets crippled in a big way.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.25 17:28:00 -
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Emm, you keep saying you want new players to participate. In a squad we can give a new player guidance, and yes, a little protection. Soloing provides neither of those things. Plus, squads are more fun; you hangout with some in-game friends for a while. Soloing is a lonely playstyle. Lonely players quit more often than players with in-game friends.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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