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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.23 18:20:00 -
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I see it in way too many battles, a team loses the intial push for the objective and 20 minutes of utter boredom follows.
"Lets place our links on this tall building close to our redline and try to snipe and FG for the rest of the game, that'll show them who can play!"
This is a game mode with 1 , let me repeat: 1 objective. And you can't even be bothered to try, not even a little.
If desperately trying to survive on some rooftop is your goal for this game, please do so in Ambush. Then atleast we can kill you all off, end the game and hope we face someone better the next game.
The same scenario in Skirmish is not quite so bad, at least the game will end fairly quick.
After playing Warhawk for some years, followed by MAG, Dust clearly has the worst playerbase of the 3 games. What is your reasoning for this behavior? Is it really any fun for you? Do you really think you will improve your gungame or indeed your tactical play by virtually doing nothing?
Can anyone make sence of it? I really try to inderstand but I fail misserably...
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.23 18:26:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:The pot calling the kettle black.
Can you elaborate mr smarty pants?
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:02:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:KingBabar wrote:shaman oga wrote:The pot calling the kettle black. Can you elaborate mr smarty pants? How many times have you hacked the main objective personally? Without any cover at your own risk?
That number will be very large indeed.
A more interresting question though;
How many times have I kept pushing alone losing millions of ISK while the rest of my team camps? The answer is, a lot!
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:03:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:KingBabar wrote:Can anyone make sence of it? I really try to inderstand but I fail misserably... I was going to reply seriously, but then I read this.
Sod off, not the entire planet is English speaking or indeed good at it. Get a life.
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:07:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:shaman oga wrote:KingBabar wrote:shaman oga wrote:The pot calling the kettle black. Can you elaborate mr smarty pants? How many times have you hacked the main objective personally? Without any cover at your own risk? He made a thread a while ago saying he was going to biomass because they were nerf-hammering the fused locus grenade. Took away its homing capability, reduced the damage and the amount carried from 3 to 1. Then I killed him in a PC match with a blaster, and knew he had lied.
You go and find me that post man, its utter BS, I have never said any of the sort.
And besides, I have seen you in a full squad multiple times camping in or on the redline with multiple tanks, so yeah, no respect mate, ypu are a part of the problem.
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.23 19:11:00 -
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So according to many of you;
People like me, doing all they can (besides d1ck tactics) to win a competitive game is the problem? Really?
Its pathetic, it really is.
And you all sounds like its just straight out of the academy people doing the camping, no it isn't at all, I see full squads off well established corps doing it all the time....
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.24 08:35:00 -
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jane stalin wrote:KingBabar wrote:I see it in way too many battles, a team loses the intial push for the objective and 20 minutes of utter boredom follows.
. It is very simple, People do not find playing domination properly fun if the other team is much better, What do you when then other team is much better? Play hard and loose lots of expensive suits?
Well, normally yes.
Of course I am not gonna waste 20 clones running in like a headles chicken. Yesterday I had a battle where our team lost, I ended 17-10, thats a loss off about 1.7 M isk. Off course, I could always run cheaper stuff if I wasn't loaded with isk.
And again, I think the general mentality of this community is really bad, just look at all the replies in this thread:
"Its your fault that people don't organize themselves, play as a team and try to fight back, you should put in less effort so that its fun for the rest of us to play."
So blame the guys playing the game as intended? Not the guys who more or less refuse to play?
So the holy mantra off "Adapt or die" are just some silly words? It should perhaps be:
"When the game gets though, don't even try to win, stay static out of harms reach for the rest of the game"?
Its sad, it really is.
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:22:00 -
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I can't be bothered to ansver people individually, so here goes:
- Stop the pretence of it always being a proto squad vs just out of the academy nubs, I see this behavior a lot from experienced squadded players that should know better.
- To whoever said I wasn't competitive: Yes my skills are not fantastic but I field the best stuff I have and are far more concerned with my WL/R than my KDR. I have also been in 500+ PCs, so, perhaps not truly elite but definately competitive...
- WL/R > KDR. Stopp being so damned obsessed with your KDRs please, its not that important. Is it really that much fun trying to pad your KDR compared to the rush of attacking an objective? Really?
- Teamwork and co-ordination > price tag of your gear. Its truly pathetic to hear the guys saying; "Its pointless to go alone vs 6 protostompers". You're not supposed to go alone, where is your squad at?
- And again, the "this is your fault cause you try to win too hard" argument is pathetic on all kinds of levels. Its a competitive game people, the only objective there is, is to win the game, there is absolutely nothing else.
- If you want to chill with a beer in hand, by all means do that, some of us can do that without running away as soon as the game gets though.
- As a MAG Raven vet I came up against stronger teams all the time, especially in the first year of the game, it never stopped me/us from pushing or trying to win. Oh yes, I can remember being stomped badly many times, at least my skills developed and I gradually became a much better player, together with my friends and eventually we could compete against most teams and still keep our heads high, win or lose. (MAG vets will hopefully remember DBD as a mediocre but hard fighting clan.)
- And lastly, a question: If winning doesn't concern you at all, why even play the game? Why not find a more friendly and cozy game? I dunno the name but I've seen my mom play some games on Facebook, they look really friendly....
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:07:00 -
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Makuta Miserix wrote:KingBabar wrote:
the only objective there is, is to win the game, there is absolutely nothing else.
I thought the point of video games was fun... Have I been playing games wrong my whole life?!  PS. Winning can be fun, but it isn't why I play games. 
Well, sort of agreed.
The objective of playing any game is off course is to have fun, destress etc.
The objective in Dust is to win the game, thats what I meant.
I hope that made any sense.
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.25 11:10:00 -
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H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:GÇóking babar has left the battleGÇó oh sorry wrong thread. Start play with a squad in which you are the one with the high amount of Sp and there are guys that have 20 milion Sp, try to not pubstomp and rage quit PC maybe after that i will consider what you say as you are killing the game playng proto every match and then you complain about noobs that stay in the redline, GIT GUD
Ragequit? Me? Sod off! Almost never happens, if it does, its for a very good reason. Like getting swarmed on EU servers by hordes of super laggy 3rd worlders... When the game becomes a slide show I sometimes leave, that much is true.
Last PC we played the electricity for my entire house short circuited. The neighbours are renovating their kitchen.
Don't immidiately jump to the conclusion that peope rage quit, especially from PC, especially seing how volatile the game's connection can be. I have hard froze and gotten "kicked due to internal error" in many PCs, never have I ragequitted. Show some respect.
Lets keep the facts straight please, its enough that the petty insults are personal and biased...
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.25 12:57:00 -
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@ MAD S
- Again, stop being childish and post your personal missconceptions as thruth. I have never Q-synced in Pub games, well, except for FW, (which I hardly ever play) does that even count?
- And I do "play as I preach", its not always fun being a 3 man group going up against for example a very good Prima Gallicus squad in skirmish, we normally get utterly stomped. Though many of them really hates me, I doubt they'll claim I'm a player that don't give it all I have. Many of those games I barely go positive, its hard and frurstrating mostly fighting 2-3 highly skilled betavets in full proto vs 1, but very much fun!
- And again, I am so very tired of repeating this point but you guys just can't seem to let it go. Stop pretending that I am always in a very strong 6 man squad up against a bunch of random noobs. Sometimes we are the ones with half a squad or indeed with a relatively weak squad being put up against 2 protosquads and our team is the one getting utterly stomped. Stop pretending that its all so one sided. Being on the receiving end however, don't make me or indeed most of my friends camp on a rooftop taking the occational potshot for 20 minutes, at least we try.
- For me, this game is indeed not for KDR, ISK and SP. Its about WL/R, friendship and achieveing something as a group that we can't do as individuals. As I said earlier, if people cared more about their WL/R and less about their KDRs, more action and less stat-padding, I think Dust would be a much more fun game to play for all.
- Thank you for calling me a scrub. Its the nicest insult I've gotten so far in this thread.
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KingBabar
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:07:00 -
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@ Horizon:
Thats different, and it used to be 3.5, eventually lowered to 3 and then 2.5.
We were (as far as I know) the only true merc-only corp in Dust. Holding districts or being a part of an alliance was never important for us at all, the highest bidder got our help. We made our isk exclusively ringing for others in PC, When I offer the usual 5 man ringer squad for 15 M isk the customer should expect a certain standard. We did have several players that had a lower KDR, but they were talented and proven mercs.
The amount of forum QQ we got for our pubstomping was nothing but great free advertising for us, it gave us a lot of work. Our biggest contract was for 1.4 B isk....
So not all of us have tons of isk because we have farmed passive isk gain from PC, some of us worked hard for it.
In TRE's case it was always meant to be a small exclusive club, if we were to make a "proper corp" our attitudes and strandards would have been very different.
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