I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it has something to do with large portions of the player base getting stomped continuously, not making enough ISK and finally smartening up.

When someone pushes the other team to the redline it's an invitation for the opposing team to go take the point. Problem is, that takes coordination. It just doesn't work when it's 1 and 2 players running for it at a time.

The sooner people get past the whiny stuff and the pity party perhaps we can expect more from players who can now get the same lifetime SP in two months that took nearly a year before. These aren't new players as much as it's just players who don't feel like the potential ISK is worth the work necessary to earn the win.

People need to stop whining, stop supporting all these excuses that it's okay for so many people to just give up so often in the FPS game we play. If potential rewards to stop being lazy, squading up and trying to actually play the game the way it was intended isn't enough then those players should probably find something else.

This is a first person shooter. The number one goal of the developer should be to have a fun, action packed game. People aren't thinking about all the times that those squads that are so often complained about earn you wins. With more ISK you'd just need to manufacturer some WP to earn a lot more than you used to in wins.

Why would I keep pushing when
I only have 10 mil idk so running in a dying to a proto squad (like yours) that would love to have more targets to shoot at to pad their kdr. I'm not wasting 1mil just to die constantly.
The amount of isk I get for trying and losing will not cover the amount of isk I lose.
****** you for even thinking you have the right to try and punish players that don't want to waste all they have, get frustrated, and quit. You're the problem not us. You don't want a fight, you want to have a constant supply of kills. You're definition "pushing" might as well be get in a single file line so we can kill you over and over again.

You Sir are a SCRUB!

Let me elaborate... This game is about three things, KDR, ISK and SP. Most of your newfound corpmates are KDR whores.
You yourself are a Protostomper par excellence! All you guys drown in ISK and can run Proto with no real impact on your wallet.
You camp uplinks and hunt down militia suits as if it would show that you are a good player... LOL

You have the impertinence of complaining that the average Dust player can't run at you in proto, and doesn't want to run at you in militia 24/7? You are just a pathetic tryhard and will always be one.
You don't get that it's no fun whatsoever to play against q-synced proto squads in pub games. As long as you don't constantly stomp pub games in Militia/BPO suits, you will have no respect from me, since only then you would show your "skill"!

You have never been playing against players with waaaayy more SP than you have, since you are one of the original lolvets in this game. You had the chance to grow into this game with nobody way above your SP level. That is a big difference to the average low SP (sub 20 mil SP) guy in this game.

The game doesn't reward pushing for objectives, so why bother, especcially since a lot of top corps value kdr very high instead of W/L ratio. So spoiling your KDR while being a low level player, won't help you being accepted into the lolvet corps you guys are running.

The only thing that will solve your problem, is either you stop being a tryhard, and run low level suits with your q-syncing buddies, or CCP banns high meta gear from pub games. I would prefer the second option, since I know that you lolscrubs will never run anything less than proto in pub games.

Just like in EVE, where you can't run Titans in high sec, it shouldn't be allowed to run proto gear in high sec pub games.

You might say that you guys would still stomp the **** out of everybody, well, that might be the case, but it would be less of a having no chance to even try situation.


Edit: And by the way, since we have those ******** mission objectives, like hack or destroy X installations, I've been running in dom and skirm games just doing that, if the reward was worth it (like keys, bigger batches of components or boosters). Can't be bothered to play the objective if the mission rewards are worth more than the payout of the game...

You are welcome... lol

My gripe is not purely against you Babar, but against the group of high SP/loads of ISK Players in this game who can afford to run Proto 24/7 without breaking a sweat.

I myself have been an all in player for the longest time in this game (though I don't run proto in pubs usually). I have reduced that in the last 4-7 month because it's not that much fun if you are one of the few who push at all. I still do it when I run in a squad, but if I run solo, I usually spread uplinks in medium to high positions (but only if it's possible to push from said high positions) and often end up protecting said links in a minmando with swarms. I love to run into objectives in a 'Renegade' Minmando just to cause mayhem and take out as much links and damage as much reds to give the blues an incentive to rush an objective.

But I still don't like unbalanced games and Pubs with loads of proto on one side and way less on the ohter or with squads on one side and single players on the other. These are just no fun and there is not much of an incentive to push objectives in those situations.

I think I know where you come from, but I also think you underestimate the wallet that allows you to waste 1-2 mil in a game just to keep the pressure up. The average non PC playing Duster can't do that. I know because I tried, and running proto is no option for me. I only have a steady income since I got my APEX suits, which allow me to stay in a lost game without too much ISK loss. I will however leave a Factional where I see two Q-synced Negative Feedback squads on the other side with no squad on my side. It's just a waste of time in factional, since you don't get the payout if you loose. So as long as there is no punishment for leaving those games early, I'll just do the logical thing and leave you guys to your thing.

I would prefer if the guys who can run Proto all day would be pushed into their own little corner where they could duke it out against each other... Oh wait that corner is called PC, and that's where you guys should go with your shiny suits, so that the average player can have fun in pubs.

That's actually something I appreciate... I also appreciate that you guys kick of factional games by deploying two squads for Amarr recently.

I still don't see the point trying to win against two q-synced squads of one of the highest ranking (lifetime sp + PC experience corps in the game). It's just a waste of time...
And I doubt it's a lot of fun for you guys, even if most of you run basic gear.

It would be cool if scotty could put you into a game of at least two squads of the same caliber to make it an even fight.

But to get to that point we need more players to stick to the game, and to get there, they need to have fun in the basic game modes, also knnown as pub games.