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Ghost Steps
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:36:00 -
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Is there a useful skill bonus instead of the 10% per lvl range on passive scan bonus? ...... not even the modules are worth having them fitted. I see the reason of it having the 3% of profile dampening for the low amount of "low module slots" but the range is just a waste of SP. PTT: the bonus to reduction on cost of the cloack should be like 80%-90% so equiping a cloack dont leave u as a free kill on the battlefield after beaing spotted.
Caldari scout bonus sucks but i like to honor my name.
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Bradric Banewolf
D3ATH CARD RUST415
739
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Posted - 2015.02.23 08:57:00 -
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No experience with use of cal scouts, but trying to hit them I have extensive experience. Between their dual tank ability, and questionable hit detection I would say give it some time.
As far as the range I think you have a point, but when used in conjunction with other suits it tends to work wonders. As a solo operator you just die struggling.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
1773
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:45:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:No experience with use of cal scouts, but trying to hit them I have extensive experience. Between their dual tank ability, and questionable hit detection I would say give it some time.
As far as the range I think you have a point, but when used in conjunction with other suits it tends to work wonders. As a solo operator you just die struggling.
2.5 million SP in a scout suit net gains me 7.5m more range over a standard logistics suit.
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Racro 01 Arifistan
Simple Minded People Pty. Ltd.
503
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Posted - 2015.02.23 11:52:00 -
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theres a downside to the caldari scout??
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6852
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Posted - 2015.02.23 12:49:00 -
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That's the fake bonus. The CalScout's real bonus is broken hitbox (which it now shares w/MN Assault).
Shoot scout with yes.
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Ghost Steps
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2015.02.23 13:56:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:No experience with use of cal scouts, but trying to hit them I have extensive experience. Between their dual tank ability, and questionable hit detection I would say give it some time.
As far as the range I think you have a point, but when used in conjunction with other suits it tends to work wonders. As a solo operator you just die struggling.
Im cal scout since they came out, waited for it since the role was anounced with the racial parity. You should try it, u will see how disapointing will be not to notice a heavy even when is right beside you.
Caldari scout bonus sucks but i like to honor my name.
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS VP Gaming Alliance
881
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Posted - 2015.02.23 15:35:00 -
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Ghost Steps wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:No experience with use of cal scouts, but trying to hit them I have extensive experience. Between their dual tank ability, and questionable hit detection I would say give it some time.
As far as the range I think you have a point, but when used in conjunction with other suits it tends to work wonders. As a solo operator you just die struggling. Im cal scout since they came out, waited for it since the role was anounced with the racial parity. You should try it, u will see how disapointing will be not to notice a heavy even when is right beside you.
ive been enjoying an adv cal scout. the passives work wonders for me.
the important thing to remember is that unless you also run a precision mod, you don't actually get full use of your range. at max range your precision is weaker and is probably the reason you feel that enemies only show up at closer ranges. |
Ghost Steps
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:53:00 -
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DeathwindRising wrote:Ghost Steps wrote:Bradric Banewolf wrote:No experience with use of cal scouts, but trying to hit them I have extensive experience. Between their dual tank ability, and questionable hit detection I would say give it some time.
As far as the range I think you have a point, but when used in conjunction with other suits it tends to work wonders. As a solo operator you just die struggling. Im cal scout since they came out, waited for it since the role was anounced with the racial parity. You should try it, u will see how disapointing will be not to notice a heavy even when is right beside you. ive been enjoying an adv cal scout. the passives work wonders for me. the important thing to remember is that unless you also run a precision mod, you don't actually get full use of your range. at max range your precision is weaker and is probably the reason you feel that enemies only show up at closer ranges.
Nope, it doesnt work, have lvl 5 on precition and lvl 3 range only missing 4 meters with the mising to lvl 5 of max range and 1.22 of optimal scan, still is a really weak bonus in compration with the other scouts, the worst bonus on the scout repertory. Caldari not only has the worst logi but also the worst scout, dont missunderstand me i really enjoy my cal scout but not for its bonus.
Caldari scout bonus sucks but i like to honor my name.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3277
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Posted - 2015.02.23 17:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:That's the fake bonus. CalScout's real bonus is broken hitbox (shared by MN Assault).
There is no broken hitbox.
There is shoddy hit detection, at times of low framerate, on any fast moving suit. Even heavies can do it.
Don't believe me? I'll show you how to do it on any assault suit -- simply don't fit anything in your lows that slows you down.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3277
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Posted - 2015.02.23 17:26:00 -
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p.s. I agree with the OP, the Cal Scout bonus is seriously lacking. Just like the Cal Logi, the Cal Scout is still paying for the sins of the past when it was FoTM. |
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manboar thunder fist
Dead Man's Game RUST415
369
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Posted - 2015.02.23 18:33:00 -
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Passive scans ranges are broken so lol calscout :(
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Ghost Steps
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
3
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Posted - 2015.02.24 18:10:00 -
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manboar thunder fist wrote:Passive scans ranges are broken so lol calscout :(
If by broken u mean it doesnt work, then i agree.
Caldari scout bonus sucks but i like to honor my name.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3020
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Posted - 2015.02.24 18:46:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:theres a downside to the caldari scout?? You have a maximum primary tank of ~450hp bricked that is obliterated by ARs, ScR, and fluxes. You lack lows for fit variety (usually only damps or perhaps a KinCat).
The range bonus and amps are a joke as well as its precision, you barely match Logis' ability for range an effective precision.
Really the downside of the Cal scout is its one-sided-ness. It has one role (light assault), but it does it well. I just wish the Scan Cal Scout was still viable.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3020
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Posted - 2015.02.24 18:50:00 -
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I've said this before, but I'll reiterate my ideas for changing passive scans:
-Scout base range to 25m
-Scan circle things to 20%/75%/100%
-Remove passive chevrons from HUD, only displayed on minimap (active and line-of-sight still available on both).
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Balistyc Farshot
The Exemplars RISE of LEGION
62
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Posted - 2015.02.24 21:14:00 -
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My scout fit is a Cal scout because I can beef up the shields and survive a run in with another scout and run away at full speed. That is the true Cal scout bonus, "Shields". It is the same advantage the cal assault and cal heavy leverage.
The main draw back is that you can only fit 1 dampner and 1 kin cat. That should get you under all but the best EWAR.
Plus I run a precision enhancer plus extenders which makes it easier to see other scouts.
I agree that gal scout has a better bonus for EWAR but the range is helpful in spotting non-scouts on the edges and it increases the precision rings.
This is probably the last thing we will see get re-balanced because people like me use the cal scouts for the shields. Sorry, other things need balances way more. Cal scout can be the beefiest without any speed impact with shields.
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