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HOLY PERFECTION
OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:19:00 -
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At one point in the game all of the weapons were "balanced", until CCP gave in and nerfed all the weapons at one point. This is the same vice versa. Even now MOST weapons are not OP at base damage. Below are reasons I know that weapons are OP.
1) People stack damage mods, this is really bad when commandos stack on top of all the damage they get in the first place.
2) The Warlords came out with the ammunition facility, which is basically another damage mod.
3) Damage Mods are too easily "put on to" suits.
4) Some weapons like the almighty shotgun are straight out unfair and OP.
Below are solutions that can fix most of these problems above.
If CCP only allow one damage mod per suit that can prevent stacking. That really helps when a commando, and scouts can stack damage mods and murder people making the TTK 2 seconds. This is what CCP is doing to tanks, do it to the dropsuits.
Another solution would to be severely nerf damage mods. NOT 4% 5% 6%. If you got your profesince up you don't need four complex damage mods with your facility up to max. Make the damage mods standard 1%, advanced 2%, and prototype 3%.
THIS HELPS ALL PLAYERS, NEW AND VET`S. SLAYERS ARE SLAYERS, BUT SHOULD NOT MURDER EVERYTHING IN 2 SECONDS. UMMM... REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING, "CALL OF DUTY". FIX IT CCP.
I WILL WIN... DESTINY
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:35:00 -
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Must. Resist...
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Sequal's Back
Dead Man's Game RUST415
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:35:00 -
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Commando OP?
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:39:00 -
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Extra hp is still better than damage mods with most suits/weapons.
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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HOLY PERFECTION
OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:39:00 -
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They will just buff the weapons/mods
I WILL WIN... DESTINY
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JAKE REDBLOOD
T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:40:00 -
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Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work.
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:49:00 -
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postapo wastelander
Corrosive Synergy RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:50:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote: At one point in the game all of the weapons were "balanced", until CCP gave in and nerfed all the weapons at one point. This is the same vice versa. Even now MOST weapons are not OP at base damage. Below are reasons I know that weapons are OP.
1) People stack damage mods, this is really bad when commandos stack on top of all the damage they get in the first place.
2) The Warlords came out with the ammunition facility, which is basically another damage mod.
3) Damage Mods are too easily "put on to" suits.
4) Some weapons like the almighty shotgun are straight out unfair and OP.
Below are solutions that can fix most of these problems above.
If CCP only allow one damage mod per suit that can prevent stacking. That really helps when a commando, and scouts can stack damage mods and murder people making the TTK 2 seconds. This is what CCP is doing to tanks, do it to the dropsuits.
Another solution would to be severely nerf damage mods. NOT 4% 5% 6%. If you got your profesince up you don't need four complex damage mods with your facility up to max. Make the damage mods standard 1%, advanced 2%, and prototype 3%.
THIS HELPS ALL PLAYERS, NEW AND VET`S. SLAYERS ARE SLAYERS, BUT SHOULD NOT MURDER EVERYTHING IN 2 SECONDS. UMMM... REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING, "CALL OF DUTY". FIX IT CCP.
Solution is easy, implementation of racial parity in weaponary, tech and vehicles. And balance. With this everything will be covered.
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
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Posted - 2015.02.22 18:59:00 -
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JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work.
Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times?
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:00:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work. Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times? Because it's a scout suit. |
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Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1972
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:01:00 -
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Or we could just remove Aim Assist, thus severely cutting down the TTK as bullets won't be magically drawn to their target.
I want to punch.
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VAHZZ
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:04:00 -
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Nerf OP, his reason is broken.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:07:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:Or we could just make massdrivers the only viable weapon, thus severely cutting down the TTK as bullets won't be magically drawn to their target. I see, what a plot you have there
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:08:00 -
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work. Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times? Because it's a scout suit.
Of course. But I'm just proving my point SGs have more range then shotgunners like to claim. Hell there have even been times my min scout was killed at 11m with SG.
My nova knives can't do that. You MUST been right up the targets ass to use them unlike the SG.
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:15:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work. Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times? Because it's a scout suit. Of course. But I'm just proving my point SGs have more range then shotgunners like to claim. Hell there have even been times my min scout was killed at 11m with SG. My nova knives can't do that. You MUST been right up the targets ass to use them unlike the SG.
Dear SG Butthurt,
If you have been killed at 11m by a SG, then you were already wounded with very low remaining HP.
A SG will do a little damage at that range, but only very little.
Regards,
A Voice of Reason
"Stay gold, Ponyboy..."
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Mexxx Dust-Slayer
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:17:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work. Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times? Because it's a scout suit. Of course. But I'm just proving my point SGs have more range then shotgunners like to claim. Hell there have even been times my min scout was killed at 11m with SG. My nova knives can't do that. You MUST been right up the targets ass to use them unlike the SG. Because it's a shotgun; because it's just knives. |
Crimson ShieId
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1973
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:19:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:Or we could just make massdrivers the only viable weapon, thus severely cutting down the TTK as bullets won't be magically drawn to their target. I see, what a plot you have there
Oi! Don't forget the Plasma Cannon, Flaylock Pistol, Grenades and Remote Explosives!
I want to punch.
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:31:00 -
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Eruditus 920 wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work. Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times? Because it's a scout suit. Of course. But I'm just proving my point SGs have more range then shotgunners like to claim. Hell there have even been times my min scout was killed at 11m with SG. My nova knives can't do that. You MUST been right up the targets ass to use them unlike the SG. Dear SG Butthurt, If you have been killed at 11m by a SG, then you were already wounded with very low remaining HP. A SG will do a little damage at that range, but only very little. Regards, A Voice of Reason
Nope. Full heath. Obviously min scouts have low hp, mostly shield and SG gets shield bonus so this makes sense. The same was true when I had a cal scout. Even my dampened low hp Gal scout has been killed at close to 10 meters by SGs.
My point is SGs can kill at more than the 5m shotgunners pretend is the only useful range of SGs. Especially since most shotgunners love the jump shot trick, which increases headshot potential.
The range of shotguns is not really my problem. But the range, ROF and high alpha of the SG makes it too strong. The ROF or the damage should be reduced some.
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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Eruditus 920
Nemo Malus Felix
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:51:00 -
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Hmmmm...I'm inclined to doubt your recollection of said event unless your scout clocks in at 25eHP.
Youtube or it didn't happen.
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GrimzOvaHourz
The Forgotten Spirits
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Posted - 2015.02.22 19:54:00 -
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... ScR |
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:06:00 -
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*opens thread *reads OPs first line
o.0
*shakes head *leaves thread
In favor of removing vehicles only so Spkr quits everything.
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:07:00 -
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Usually, I avoid your threads because of reasons everyone already knows, but holy ****, dude... |
Kalante Schiffer
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:27:00 -
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At what point of the game where all the weapons balanced? because i was either not playing the game these past two years or do not remember that happening at all. Also lulz shotgun QQ.
Framerate>everything else
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:27:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Usually, I avoid your threads because of reasons everyone already knows, but holy ****, dude... I got banned for trolling him too hard... It was worth it though. I consider it to be my best work.
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HOLY PERFECTION
OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:31:00 -
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Ive been killed 11M away by a shotgun before, with full health. So now i know im not the only one.
I WILL WIN... DESTINY
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DUST Fiend
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:32:00 -
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We clearly aren't playing the same game if you thought, at any point, that everything was balanced...
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HOLY PERFECTION
OUTCAST MERCS RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:34:00 -
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No, im sorry i just heard from VETS that at one point the guns were fine till CCP FUC#ED them up.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:42:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:No, im sorry i just heard from VETS that at one point the guns were fine till CCP FUC#ED them up.
The fu.ck you did you god damm liar. All we've ever done is birch about unbalance. and even though it's nearly balanced now all we do is still betch.
In favor of removing vehicles only so Spkr quits everything.
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Izlare Lenix
Pub Stars
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:48:00 -
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HOLY PERFECTION wrote:Ive been killed 11M away by a shotgun before, with full health. So now i know im not the only one.
^ see it happens. I'll be sure to take a screen shot the next time it happens to me.
The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
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Posted - 2015.02.22 20:58:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Mexxx Dust-Slayer wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:JAKE REDBLOOD wrote:Scouts have been nerfed so hard ... Some people just won't be happy until they're not in the game. Yes the shotgun does a lot of damage when you get into range 0-7m but after that it's useless. That's how shotguns work. Then why has my pro scout been 1 shot by SGs at 10m many, many times? Because it's a scout suit. Of course. But I'm just proving my point SGs have more range then shotgunners like to claim. Hell there have even been times my min scout was killed at 11m with SG. My nova knives can't do that. You MUST been right up the targets ass to use them unlike the SG. Yes, nova knives cannot do that. Yet, nova knives offer more alpha, while SG is somewhat easier to use with less alpha but quicker strikes. Also, the effective range is 5-7m. Stop being technical with "Oh no!!! 10m!!". 10m, the bullets just drop.
Killer of Grand Master Kubo by a shotgun, Gav by a BAR, and countless others
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