DUST Search - Adding Skill to using swarms

Night 5talker 514 wrote:

Hey guys,

I'd like to keep this constructive.

Previously I have always been infantry only, but I have quietly been maxing out various vehicle skills and have begun to notice an unbalance. As an infantry guy, I love swarms as they are so easy to use and bully vehicles. However, this discourages a number of players from a really fun part of the game. As both an infantry merc and vehicle merc I think we need to add more skills to the use of AV, specifically swarms. My question to you is how do we do this?

No individual should be able to solo a vehicle, unless good skill is involved. I've heard stories of frustrated people because they couldn't solo kill a tank with a plasma cannon for example. Have you heard of many people IRL managing to solo kill a modern tank??? It should take a small element of skill and team work, say 3 people for example.

My thoughts on the swarms are as follows: Remove lock and make them dumbfire (read a bit further before raging). Then make the missile an anti armour war head with next to no splash because "it's some smart tech that reacts on vehicles etc etc etc" make the missile move rapidly with a range of 200m-250m. This adds skill, removes the problem of AI capabilities. Or make it shoulder mounted mini forgegun. This would add more skill to the use of AV where currently as a user of both the AV and vehicles it is clearly broken.

I understand that we don't have proto vehicles yet we have proto AV. However, this is not something I want to discuss here. I simply want to hear your thoughts on how do we add skill to the use of swarms?


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Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 867	Posted - 2015.02.22 01:06:00 - [1] - Quote Night 5talker 514 wrote: Hey guys, I'd like to keep this constructive. Previously I have always been infantry only, but I have quietly been maxing out various vehicle skills and have begun to notice an unbalance. As an infantry guy, I love swarms as they are so easy to use and bully vehicles. However, this discourages a number of players from a really fun part of the game. As both an infantry merc and vehicle merc I think we need to add more skills to the use of AV, specifically swarms. My question to you is how do we do this? No individual should be able to solo a vehicle, unless good skill is involved. I've heard stories of frustrated people because they couldn't solo kill a tank with a plasma cannon for example. Have you heard of many people IRL managing to solo kill a modern tank??? It should take a small element of skill and team work, say 3 people for example. My thoughts on the swarms are as follows: Remove lock and make them dumbfire (read a bit further before raging). Then make the missile an anti armour war head with next to no splash because "it's some smart tech that reacts on vehicles etc etc etc" make the missile move rapidly with a range of 200m-250m. This adds skill, removes the problem of AI capabilities. Or make it shoulder mounted mini forgegun. This would add more skill to the use of AV where currently as a user of both the AV and vehicles it is clearly broken. I understand that we don't have proto vehicles yet we have proto AV. However, this is not something I want to discuss here. I simply want to hear your thoughts on how do we add skill to the use of swarms? Reduce knockback effect of swarms on DS so i don't get *** slapped, lower damage, reduce range swarms follow me, or reduce lock on range, or let me out maneuver these *** no skill ***.(I'm doing mid air back flips and barrel rolls they still gets me)
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 872	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:02:00 - [2] - Quote hold that wrote: a single swarmer can't kill a vehicle, just annoy them. a single forger can kill a vehicle, nerf forge guns Forges take aim to kill and vehicles can out maneuver forges just do an unexpected turn with a tank, or do a barrel roll with a DS, if i get killed by a FG I atleast know I was killed with a person who can aim for themselves. Can't do that stuff with Swarms, also yes a single swarmer can kill a vehicle... Maybe not a double hardened gunlogi, but most things cant kill that anyway.
Louis Domi Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 873	Posted - 2015.02.22 14:11:00 - [3] - Quote Sequal's Back wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Maybe not a double hardened gunlogi, but most things cant kill that anyway. Exactly! Hahaha! Even with a proto swarm prof 4 and proto minmando, gunlogis (STD tanks btw) aren't possible to kill unless they don't know how to ride. Derpships otherwise... well Swarms need to get a bit more skilled on these ones as they can go down pretty fast. But again, these are proto AV vs STD vehicle, let's wait for the new vehicle release before changing anything. I want the stats of these new vehicles. Will it only be a different paint job with a bit more pg/cpu? If so, then they better give it one hell of a paint job. Also is ADS considered an ADV DS?