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Ghural WarRavens 376	Posted - 2015.02.21 06:09:00 - [1] - Quote I played a PC battle last night for the first time in ages, and I was reminded about how much I dislike the feature. At times the frame rate dropped down to about 3 per second, it was a truly awful experience. My question is why bother with new features for PC, when performance is still terrible. Surely improving the game so that everyone gets a good experience (not just those lucky few who live right next to the server) is far more important than strapping on few new shiny bells and whistles. This is meant to be Dusts flagship feature after all. The basic performance of PC needs to be good and consistent before adding more features.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Negative-Feedback 15697	Posted - 2015.02.21 06:13:00 - [2] - Quote Performance in every game-mode is terrible, PC is no exception. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 941	Posted - 2015.02.21 06:50:00 - [3] - Quote Who said they're not constantly trying to optimize the game? GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
DUST Fiend 15803	Posted - 2015.02.21 06:57:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Performance in every game-mode is terrible, PC is no exception. I pretty much never play PC, but if you think PC = every game mode in terms of performance....you clearly PC even less than I do My YouTube (currently inactive) Templar BPOs ADSrFUN
gustavo acosta Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 941	Posted - 2015.02.21 07:00:00 - [5] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I pretty much never play PC, but if you think PC = every game mode in terms of performance....you clearly PC even less than I do >says he never pcs >doesn't know the state of pc >says other player consistently in PC corps "knows less/participates less" than he does >haha GimmeDatSuhWeet isk We found a new pope to teach shield users how to shield tank, all hail pope redblood the 6th
Izlare Lenix Pub Stars 1273	Posted - 2015.02.21 07:43:00 - [6] - Quote gustavo acosta wrote: Who said they're not constantly trying to optimize the game? It has been two years. And yet still I have been in PCs that literally had 1 fps. And even matches with decent fps still have lag spikes and horrendous hit detection issues. I would say less than half of every PC I have ever done had acceptable performance for Dust's "flagship" mode. The only real truth in history is that it was bloody.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3256	Posted - 2015.02.21 10:39:00 - [7] - Quote I really don't understand why CCP routinely calls Planetary Conquest "what we should all strive for" in regards to our play. It is meant to be this big high stakes game where there is tactics and high amounts of Prototype but Prototype gear is damn near ubiquitous now meaning that a standard public game could have just as much Proto gear. Even then, what is the reason why "we" should want to do PC? It isn't like EVE where you can get control of PvE elements like mining or installations in order to get more money to launch bigger and bigger operations. Having a district lets you, well, have a district. If someone else attacks your district, you better defend it or they will have a district. Boy howdy is this a nail biter! Even for making money, you could probably do 4 or 5 games of Ambush in the time it takes to set up and do a PC match and net more than you would get from that one match regardless of win or lose. This isn't even counting the connection issues that have happened in PC, the TERRIBLE infrastructure, and just the fact that the games play exactly the same other than there being no Warbarge Strikes unless there is someone in EVE. This game has many, many problems. Trying to fix PC enough so that it can be "the shinning example of what DUST can be" is like finding the biggest wart on my back and trying to polish it up. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Pagl1u M Dead Man's Game RUST415 1609	Posted - 2015.02.21 10:50:00 - [8] - Quote ITT: players that never play PC talking about PC. One of the few assaults you'll find in a PC match!
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7257	Posted - 2015.02.21 12:28:00 - [9] - Quote Do you even pc? Framerate is not even close to beening as bad as it once was. There are issues now and then but generally it runs fine for me. CBM EVE, Dust & Corp Services Buying Dead & Inactive Corps
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Back and Forth 7257	Posted - 2015.02.21 12:33:00 - [10] - Quote Joseph Ridgeson wrote: This isn't even counting the connection issues that have happened in PC, the TERRIBLE infrastructure, and just the fact that the games play exactly the same other than there being no Warbarge Strikes unless there is someone in EVE. This game has many, many problems. Trying to fix PC enough so that it can be "the shinning example of what DUST can be" is like finding the biggest wart on my back and trying to polish it up. Idk what PC you play but when I play the game play is more serious then just a pub match, pc is about the organization and fighting other organized teams. You are outright wrong about orbitals in PC and don't know what you are talking about. CBM EVE, Dust & Corp Services Buying Dead & Inactive Corps

Ghural WarRavens 378	Posted - 2015.02.21 12:41:00 - [11] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Do you even pc? Framerate is not even close to beening as bad as it once was. There are issues now and then but generally it runs fine for me. The fact that you don't have any issues doesn't mean that others don't. I've been here since closed beta for the record, and have participated in many PC battles. Performance is inconsistent and generally poor for me, and I'm obviously not the only one who has experienced ongoing issues.
Jathniel Ahrendee Mercenaries 1478	Posted - 2015.02.21 12:44:00 - [12] - Quote At least PC, isn't automatically disconnecting nearly an entire team mid-match anymore. Retired
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens 3256	Posted - 2015.02.21 13:06:00 - [13] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: Joseph Ridgeson wrote: This isn't even counting the connection issues that have happened in PC, the TERRIBLE infrastructure, and just the fact that the games play exactly the same other than there being no Warbarge Strikes unless there is someone in EVE. This game has many, many problems. Trying to fix PC enough so that it can be "the shinning example of what DUST can be" is like finding the biggest wart on my back and trying to polish it up. Idk what PC you play but when I play the game play is more serious then just a pub match, pc is about the organization and fighting other organized teams. You are outright wrong about orbitals in PC and don't know what you are talking about. Warbarge Strikes, not Orbital Strikes. That is what I was referring to. In regards to "play exactly the same", I meant that it was just like any other game mode. It doesn't have special features that exist solely for PC, sans Orbital Strikes from EVE. Yes it is organized play but with 6 squad mates you can just as easily have that intense interaction with playing as hard as possible in public games. The same result of having 16 v 16 of focused players? No but it isn't too far off. PC doesn't really feel any different. It doesn't have that hold that should make it "what we should all aspire to." In an MMO like World of Warcraft, raiding can be something we aspire to get the best items in the game that we cannot get except through raiding. Same goes for ranked PvP. With PC as it is now, what does the average person get for doing PC? They get a match that is "more important" because CCP says so. Even something like League of Legends ranked teams does a better job show casing player skill and group cohesion than current PC. If PC was really supposed to be about fighting organized teams, a ranking system with Squads or Teams could be implemented. Hell, high stake corporation battles would do it. As it stands, I do not see the point in Planetary Conquest. It was supposed to be the feature that drove the EVE-DUST link but has utterly failed in that regard. "This is B.S! This is B.S! I paid money! Cash money, dollars money, cash money!"
Joel II X Bacon with a bottle of Quafe 6307	Posted - 2015.02.21 14:04:00 - [14] - Quote Change to a mac?
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1785	Posted - 2015.02.21 14:21:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: Performance in every game-mode is terrible, PC is no exception. PC was clearly the worst. Granted, haven't checked it for over a year. The answer
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2681	Posted - 2015.02.21 14:37:00 - [16] - Quote The problem with PC is that the game is not on PC. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Cat Merc Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 15246	Posted - 2015.02.21 15:05:00 - [17] - Quote https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap 1.1, under User Experience. "Performance". Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Mejt0 Dead Man's Game RUST415 879	Posted - 2015.02.21 16:50:00 - [18] - Quote It's nowhere near as bad as it was. Not perfect but also not dramatic. It's still more about laggy players [everybody knows these lagging bast.ards]. Loyal to State https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2629870#post2629870 - Mejto's trade/sale list


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