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Avallo Kantor
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:19:00 -
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Over the last few months, or perhaps the last few years depending on your perspective, I've seen development and gaming studios fall into greater and greater pits over overcommitments, and unrealistic promises. The big, triple "A" studios make larger and more grandiose declarations on each of their games. In 2014 however, they seemed to deliver more and more disappointments and underwhelming, bug-ridden titles.
I've seen PR fluff in Aliens: Colonial Marines trailers, and the over hyped Watchdogs graphics vs reality. I've been personally burned by games that have been effectively killed while in their "early access" stages. With more and more games being started only never to see a finish, stopping only after a studio has taken all the money and failed to make a product... I can be happy to hear silence from Legion.
I am not going to pretend that CCP has not been all of these and more over the years, but I'd like to think they are improving. (At glacial paces, mind you) Still, I can appreciate the fact that Legion is currently not being over-hyped, or being saddled with so many feature lists and stretch-goals that you forget what the purpose was in the first place. It's not having trailers shot out left and right, and I'm not being asked to pay $20 for early access.
In the current culture of gaming where titles are being presented as "pre-alphas" and "early access" with barely a thread of clothing on, I can appreciate a company who seems content to hold it's product back until it at least has time to slip into something that is at least decent. I've decided that I don't mind that Legion hasn't promised ten pages of features, or attempted to wow us with it's stunning vision or depth.
Maybe I've become too cynical of all PR-nonsense that surrounds pre-released games, but I feel it's a breath of fresh air to have a game in development that's not beating me over the head with how innovative and feature rich it is, especially with so many of those shows turning out to be nothing more than vapor and props. |
SuperMido
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:16:00 -
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Well, I'm gonna have to agree and disagree with you here! I agree that over the past few years we have been seeing more and more failures; Dust 514 included!!
But, I'll disagree with you with the silence part. The reason those games fail, is because their companies FUC.KING LIE to us! And they have those PR fucks who are so good at talking and hyping up everything, and making up stuff that they KNOW will not even be there...They just talk out of their ass, and when it comes to delivering, they FAIL..
A big example of this would be Mr. David Reid the former CMO for CCP. I'm glad he doesn't work for the company anymore!
Of course he is not the only example, pretty much every company has the type of deal, as well as lying devs. Lol.
If companies were to share with us only what they know they'll deliver, we wouldn't have this problem. But of course that doesn't happen when the industry is dominated by marketing freaks. EA and Activision, and followed by Ubisoft are the worst 3 by far. All they care about is making max profit, that's why you see Mr. Eric Heisherberg from Activision come out EVERY SINGLE FUC.KING YEAR saying this year's CoD will be the most innovative. Yet, its the same damn thing...And of course, thats just one example...
So in conclusion, silence is NOT what we need in my opinion, its honesty, and not promising stuff you're not sure of. |
Tau Lai
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:53:00 -
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Dust was the best shooter of all times.
They cannot remove it from our lifes and not to wait for us to request news about it.
And no, Dust is not a game now. It is dead.
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
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Posted - 2015.02.23 16:58:00 -
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Tau Lai wrote:Dust was the best shooter of all times.
They cannot remove it from our lifes and not to wait for us to request news about it.
And no, Dust is not a game now. It is dead.
Been playing PS2 closed beta and I played Dust since closed beta, I can tell you PS2 is far superior and Dust had the potential to be a great game, could have been top three contender.
See you all in Planetside2 when open beta starts, hopefully three to four weeks, if you have ps4's.
I am Dust Free, found fun in gaming again,
Destiny, hell yes, Planetside2? Makes dust look like what it is, crap.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.25 04:07:00 -
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I agree that all that hyping up has done more harm than good when people have seen what the actual games were like for many of these triple A games. But when it comes to CCP there is hardly any more excuses to not be open with their community. Their silence about Legion after they made the choice to move to the platform it should've been on all the way through the pain of Uprising till fanfest 2014 did not help at ALL!!!!
Maybe you're right though, the silence is better cuz whenever they speak about Legion it's just not worth hearing at all. Sort of like at EVE Vegas : http://youtu.be/nGhiqHr3Xso
Should Legion be on the ps4?
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Justicar Karnellia
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.02.26 10:27:00 -
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da GAND wrote:I agree that all that hyping up has done more harm than good when people have seen what the actual games were like for many of these triple AAA games. But when it comes to CCP there is hardly any more excuses to not be open with their community. Their silence about Legion after they made the choice to move to the platform it should've been on all the way through the pain of Uprising till fanfest 2014 did not help at ALL!!!! Maybe you're right though, the silence is better cuz whenever they speak about Legion it's just not worth hearing at all. Sort of like at EVE Vegas : http://youtu.be/nGhiqHr3Xso
I admit I had never seen that clip... but most of it is just PR speak... Hearing someone say there's loads of content updates and Dust is still going strong is kind of insulting.. considering they have a skeleton crew working on it right now.... |
da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.27 05:06:00 -
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Justicar Karnellia wrote:da GAND wrote:I agree that all that hyping up has done more harm than good when people have seen what the actual games were like for many of these triple AAA games. But when it comes to CCP there is hardly any more excuses to not be open with their community. Their silence about Legion after they made the choice to move to the platform it should've been on all the way through the pain of Uprising till fanfest 2014 did not help at ALL!!!! Maybe you're right though, the silence is better cuz whenever they speak about Legion it's just not worth hearing at all. Sort of like at EVE Vegas : http://youtu.be/nGhiqHr3Xso I admit I had never seen that clip... but most of it is just PR speak... Hearing someone say there's loads of content updates and Dust is still going strong is kind of insulting.. considering they have a skeleton crew working on it right now....
It aint going strong but it's still alive and its funny how he talked about communication between them and their community.
Should Legion be on the ps4?
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PLAYSTTION
Corrosive Synergy
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2015.02.28 16:42:00 -
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Thats why they should tell us what they want in legion and what might happen instead of promising.
Gassault Calogi and more. Respec Pending.
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DeadlyAztec11
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.03.02 14:49:00 -
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The only reason Legion isn't hyped is because they want to keep making money from Dust.
Put your flags up in the sky.
And wave them side to side.
Show the world where you're from.
Show the world we are one.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2015.03.02 19:46:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The only reason Legion isn't hyped is because they want to keep making money from Dust.
If Dust actually made much money for CCP, they'd be hyping it as well.
They're quiet on Legion because nothing has happened since you last heard. Everyone is either working on trying to keep Eve afloat, or getting Valkyrie out the door.
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1133
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Posted - 2015.03.02 20:07:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The only reason Legion isn't hyped is because they want to keep making money from Dust.
Seems likely with all these new ways to make money off the players that foolishly buy all these things that keep popping up lately.
Should Legion be on the ps4?
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.03.03 14:29:00 -
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CCP already over committed by suggesting Dust would be what they theoretically intend for Legion.
CCP over committed again by suggesting they could actually release Legion.
Usually banned for being too awesome.
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2015.03.03 14:38:00 -
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da GAND wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The only reason Legion isn't hyped is because they want to keep making money from Dust. Seems likely with all these new ways to make money off the players that foolishly buy all these things that keep popping up lately.
How dare people buy things in a game they enjoy. Let's drop all the meta argument their. People buy **** because they enjoy the game and want the product on sale.
Ccp are a business they make money as long as continue making money they shall carry on.
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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da GAND
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
1136
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:11:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:da GAND wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:The only reason Legion isn't hyped is because they want to keep making money from Dust. Seems likely with all these new ways to make money off the players that foolishly buy all these things that keep popping up lately. How dare people buy things in a game they enjoy. Let's drop all the meta argument their. People buy **** because they enjoy the game and want the product on sale. Ccp are a business they make money as long as continue making money they shall carry on.
CCP making money off of those playing this grindy lobby shooter called Dust isn't a problem, people buying all these things with no problem remind me of how people spent plenty of money on aurum whether it is to invest in the future that CCP said Dust514 was going to have or they just had plenty of money to spend on a free to play game. Seemed foolish to spend money on this game before fanfest 2014 and still does now.
Should Legion be on the ps4?
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