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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:21:00 -
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CCP is trying to fix matchmaking, to limit protostomping and unbalanced matches. I'm perfectly fine with it and it is a really needed fix, we can all agree on it.
BUT let's take a look at what they want to do:
CCP Rattati wrote:
we know what we want to do on matchmaking,
1) 4 man squads for pubs, 8/12/16 for FW and PC
2) Academy 2.0
3) Metalevel locked modes with escalating risk reward
2) Academy 2.0: Yes, it's really needed.
3)Metalevel locked modes with escalating risk reward: Awesome...if properly done.
1)4 man squads for pubs, 8/12/16 for FW and PC: OH MY....NO!
I'm sure a lot of players still play Dust because they love to play with friends. 4 man squads are too small!
We have asked for ages to increase the number of players per squad to 8 and now they are reducing it.
In this petition we are not asking CCP to let us keep protostomping, we are asking CCP to let us play with our friends!
I know a lot of you will say:"You can play FW if you want a bigger squad." BUT it is not the same. And also: what if we play a fw and then we want to go back to pubs? Should I just say: "Mario, Giulio plz leave squad, we need to be 4!"????
CCP: I'm begging you, start adding Academy 2.0 and Metalevel locked modes and see how it works. If it isn't enough work on something else but please never, never discourage friends from playing together.
If you agree with the petition bump the thread to give visibility and show your agreement.
if you disagree keep it civil and discuss.
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:53:00 -
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TheD1CK wrote:But... what if your friends.. are all convicted public sex-offenders ?? Should we really allow them be in a group, with the public ??? 4 - man squads, kills off some group play yes .. but it would also lead to increasing the number of squads.. which may make balancing better for public matches, more squads per team So.. to be honest.. I could not care less  I have more entertainment watching paint dry than be on either side of a pub stomp 4-man squads may have a good impact on making more fights possible... 'may'
"may", you're right. But what if CCP starts introducing the other 2 things and see how it goes, then they thing of any different thing they could do and only as last resort they change squads to 4? I feel like it is a major change that should be the last resort when everything else didn't work.
Bab- steps Rattati, I know you love them!
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 12:11:00 -
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4lbert Wesker wrote:So,you want 6 man squad so you can keep stomping on pubs?At least,you will have bigger chance to be killed along with your scrub pals from Scrub Man's Game :) I saw how your little "friend" Fabry guard your scrub ass yesterday :) This 4 man squad is huge improvement in this game and it should stay as is.You want to sync?Well,there will be bigger chance to fight your own scrubs on oposite side :)
Pagl1u M wrote:
if you disagree keep it civil and discuss.
Pagl1u M wrote:
In this petition we are not asking CCP to let us keep protostomping, we are asking CCP to let us play with our friends!
Also I wasnt in squad with Fabry, I was playing alone but it happened that the game put us in the same team, but keep rosik if you want, I couldnt care less...just please avoid filling this thread with your tears, I hoped to have a constructive thread here.
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 14:07:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:
[Petition] We don't want 4 man squads!
If it'll fix matchmaking -- and it likely will -- then I'm all for it. There's a huge thread explaining all the "whys" in Development Archives. 100% in favor of 4 man squads. If it doesn't work, we can always revert. 8-16 man squads for FW, PC and PC Raids would be awesome as well.
I'll take a look at the "whys", but... What if the other 2 fixes are already enough to Fix the problem? Why not add the other 2 fixes and only if it doesn't work make 4 man squads?
This is a team based game guys. I know protostomping is a problem but we shouldnt Fix it reducing squads
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 15:30:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Thread = 6 man proto teams worried free ride is now over =ƒÿå
No I m worried I wont be able to play with my friends, I'll stomp in a 4 team squad as much as I stomp now. Do you really think it ll change anything?
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 17:54:00 -
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- Let New players play more in Academy
- Push new players to join corporation with bonuses if they do
- Let new players know about various corporations
- Push players to actually try and fight for the win and not just to avoid fights
- Use metalevels
That's how you fix matchmaking. Actually the worst thing in any match aren't those 6 players that try hard to win the match but are those 10 players that dont even try, they just sniper or stay in the redline without trying to win. And who can disagree with them? Why should they try to win when the reward for winning or losing is almost the same?
The worst match I have are those when 6 or more players in my team finish with 100 WP or less. Not those where I fight 6 or more protos.
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:43:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Dust 514 is a video game, arguing about "social aspects" has no merit.
There are arguments for and against this change and "I will have to squad with 2 less of my bros" has no major effect on the game play aspect.
How will a RETURN to 4 man squads affect the GAME PLAY for better or worse. Those are valid arguments.
What are you talking about? This is an online fps it has everything to do with "sociale aspects"! Are you drunk or what?
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.21 10:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I see no grounds for keeping a 6 man squad when it directly threatens the ability to even consider having multiple squads deploy together up to groups of 4 on certain game modes.
Want to be social go make a chat channel.
Want to be working together?; go make a 4 man squad and join it with another squad and then get deployed against similar setups.
Want to proto stomp in pubs? do it by yourself then what are you afraid of getting killed by a quafe BPO?
Go make a chat: already done, I with whitedevil and Corbina Ninja am ethe creator of the italian official channel.
Yesterday night I played more than 3 hours with the following friends: Bastard, Ripper Rouge, xxwhitedevilxx M, er vipera and Fabios Amir. These are freinds I play with every night since 2 years ago. Yesterday we had a lot of fair and even matches against prima gallicus or other teams.
I am all for improving matchmaking and improving NPE ( I created some posts about NPE) but dont make me look like a bad person because I want to go on playing with my friends.
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Pagl1u M
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Posted - 2015.02.22 10:32:00 -
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I don't know, CCP is trying to encourage players to join squads and join big corps with the new things and then they discourage team playing to buff lone wolves. I'm ok with it because of New players and newbs but if you are a vet you should not be proud of being a lone wolf, you should not be protected doing this. Playing with your team and friends is not a bad thing.
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