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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2015.02.19 06:04:00 -
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So I'm a bit of a noob tanker again, having not really played for months and months while vehicles and AV weapons got changed around. It's weird now, but I'm quickly getting the hang of it again.
Anyway, that's not the point.
I tanked in Chromosome, and we were pretty godly back then (mainly cos we were scaled pretty strongly to PRO AV and no-one had PRO AV, but eh) and in mid-to-late Uprising we were overpriced and undereffective, and then in Uprising 1.7 we were literally unkillable, and also really cheap, and now it seems to me, playing on both sides of the equation (incidentally, Alldin's FG is awesome) HAV and AV balance is pretty slick. (and wow, that was a big sentence.)
Swarms don't bother my hardened Gunny all that much, but when it clocks off I'm buggered. Same with forges. Careful use of terrain keeps me alive. Careless overextension kills me.
What's the big deal?
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2015.02.19 06:13:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Read My Sig.
Glad you commented, actually - I wanted to discuss that.
I assume your preferred solution is adding more content?
I honestly don't see it as a problem, considering that rails (which are still superior turrets, I think) and blasters (which are about to get a buff) are both anti-shield weapons (unless they fixed that little bug, in which case I retract my complaint.
But still, the problem with Madrugar isn't AV weapons, it's the utter absence of decent fitting options. You can't make a good Madrugar not because armour is worse, but because the hull is terrible.
On the whole, though, while Madrugar is absolutely pretty garbage right now and could use some tweaking, I really want to emphasise that the problem is NOT AV.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2015.02.19 06:17:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:MADrugars are going to be buffed next batch of cookies boyo!
Just wait, glorious armor tanks will be a thing once again!
see my avatar?
I'm looking forward to it :P
gonna buy a respec for it xD
but that still isn't the point; Madrugar needs a buff, AV doesn't need a nerf.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2015.02.19 11:05:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Here's a fun mental exercise for you.
With rattati's hav changes it will take 5 shots roughly to kill a madrugar with an ishukone assault forge gun. Possibly 6 assuming pro vs pro and your fits are all maxed. A gunnlogi will take 7-8.
Now let's assume that PLCs were ramped up to fire nearly as fast as the IAFG since their alphas are all but identical. It will take 7-8 shots to burst a madrugar but only 5 to detonate the gunnlogi.
Looks like parity to me since the forge and PLC both have isentical profiles but reverse. If we introduce a few more for variety then things get interesting.
UHAVs are probably going to be a lot harder to kill with infantry AV.
Parity is great and all except for the bit where I pull in my max skills HAV w/ STD smalls and proto LRG and then you can't ever solo me ever.
Which is the problem I'm seeing with the new HAVs.
I could be convinced otherwise, depending on the execution, but I'm reserving judgement.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
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Posted - 2015.02.19 14:54:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Uh... everything? AV makes all my collective experience next to useless. What does experience mean when a packed Lai Dai does ~1800 to unhardened armor? I saw the forge gun now has an increased multiplier against the rear end of a tank, it's now 172%, up from 167%. A PRO breach with proficiency 5 and 4 damage mods on a Cal heavy will nearly destroy anything in one shot to the rear end. A double swarm Minmando can fire 6 volleys in around 7 seconds, and they'll all hit in around that same time. They fly faster, and get an incredible damage boost from the Minmando suit.
The PLC is just lol to use. Hard to use, fun getting hits. That's the most fun I've had using some form of AV.
You're gonna have to be more specific; FG was changed when all the damage profiles were edited.
I admit, I've been away, but I've been tanking a little every day for the last two weeks now, and I really don't see the problem.
Guys, we need to stop calling MU a 'matchmaker' when it's actually a 'teambuilder'.
And I want to play FE:A now. Damn.
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