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Darken-Soul
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Posted - 2015.02.19 01:02:00 -
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Savage Mangler wrote:No one ever mentions that most tankers run gunnlogis with double shield hardeners, and that the average player cannot on their own deal enough damage to one with a SL to destroy it. No one mentions that the only infantry held anti shield AV weapon is the plasma cannon.
K den. Most tankers are forced to run gunloggi. There's not many of us armor tankers left.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 01:05:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Thumb Green wrote:How can you complain about HAV survivability against SL and then say SL vs DS is okay? The main advantage ADSs have over land vehicles is they can disengage much quicker and cannot be followed to the extent tanks can. But then again it's far easier for tanks to use terrain and buildings for cover. At first thought it might feel the opposite, but it really is that way. Swarms travel thru terrain and corners. Also if one missile makes it thru you take full damage.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 01:38:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Thumb Green wrote:How can you complain about HAV survivability against SL and then say SL vs DS is okay? The main advantage ADSs have over land vehicles is they can disengage much quicker and cannot be followed to the extent tanks can. But then again it's far easier for tanks to use terrain and buildings for cover. At first thought it might feel the opposite, but it really is that way. Swarms travel thru terrain and corners. Also if one missile makes it thru you take full damage. 1st point depends on map and the terrain in question. 2nd point is not true: often swarm user launches with terrain close to him and only 1-3 missiles fly out. When that sole missiles hits, it is just that. It is a sad fact from framerate performances perspective that all those 4 missiles are separate entities and calculated as such. You must tank on paper. Ive been at 1700 plus and ganked by one missile.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:00:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:You must tank on paper. Ive been at 1700 plus and ganked by one missile. Nope, they are all separate. 1000% sure.
It's simple then. The animation and the actual missiles are not correct. I've tanked half a barrage for a fellow tanker. U take 0 he takes a kill shot. From the 1 or 2 missiles that hit He should have lived.
I tank almost every match. There are tons of inconsistencies with swarms. The missiles doing separate damage is not one. If a single missile hits you its as if all hit you.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:15:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Darken-Soul wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:
1st point depends on map and the terrain in question. 2nd point is not true: often swarm user launches with terrain close to him and only 1-3 missiles fly out. When that sole missiles hits, it is just that.
It is a sad fact from framerate performances perspective that all those 4 missiles are separate entities and calculated as such.
You must tank on paper. Ive been at 1700 plus and ganked by one missile. How often? All the time, on occasion, sometimes, rarely? If rarely or even sometimes the chances are there was combined volley. I have the luxury of replaying my matches, so in every case of (near)instaboom I check them. Usually it was a well co-ordinated or lucky volleys by several ppl.
Here's one example. 82 and I were out on the bridge map. Proto Swarm on the blueb cookers. 1 guy. 82 heading south over bridge. I watch the swarms smash into stanchions over the vridge. He still takes a kill shot.
every match is littered with silly little things like this.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 02:23:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:Using swarms alone it takes me 2 full clips of a proto SL on a double DMG modded min commando to take down your gunloggi (provided you don't missile me or run away or get out and shoot me/forge gun me) Sorry to hear you're not indestructible, be grateful you don't use a Madrugar. Now HTFU.
I am a maddy pilot. Or soma. Shields are for defense. I accel at offense, distraction, and vehicle removal.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 03:18:00 -
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Yes.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 03:59:00 -
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It's pretty obvious the effect swarms have on HAVs.
It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so buggy. I think swarms should be removed until they can fix them. AV/V balance is always focused around these glitchy no-skill swarms. If we could have a decent weapon in their place it would be preferable.
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