DUST Search - Clarification for ADS acting as a Gunship

Godin Thekiller wrote:

GOAL: To allow Pilots in HAV's to reasonably engage Pilots in ADS's with their Large turrets without breaking the balance between them, and to allow ADS's to still earn a decent amount of WP's.

PROBLEM: At current, ADS's can easily fly past each turret's optimal, more so for blasters and Rockets, but somewhat of Rails.

PROBLEM 2: ADS's don't function as T II DS's designed as a more combat focused DS, more so Gunships, because being anything like a DS doesn't reward much of anything as of current.

SOLUTIONS 1:

1- Lower the flight ceiling for ADS's to allow rails to still hit incoming ADS's that are flying high, or at least around them to keep them from approaching, or to at least make them have to maneuver, but keep regular DS's from having to deal with constant fire from Rails. Would like Rail ROF slowed however, as it does fire quite fast (although it has quite a short range).

2- Buff Rocket turrets elevation very slightly (maybe 5-10 degrees), and projectile speed as well (needs it anyways to hit further out targets), possibly increase turret rotation (most likely not needed).

3- Increase Blaster elevation (15-25 degrees).

OR

1- Introduce a coaxial turret slot that takes up slightly less fitting than a regular small turret, but it has both less ammo, both per mag and total. Also, it has to be changed to (a sidearm of sorts). (Credits to v for this idea).

omfg, ADS are easy to shoot out of the sky if you had squaddies. ADS's are ALREADY so easy to kill.

SOLUTIONS 2:

1- ADS (and DS's in general tbh) will probably need a slightl buff in eHP after this seeing as things can hit them more.

2- There needs to be much more ways to get points for being a DS pilot, such as more types of transport points, and a way for infantry to call on DS's and even special calls for ADS's, and if they come back LDS's and even FRDS's to pick them up (the regular call would be universal, but special calls might have things tied to it, like for example, ADS call would ask for ADS's only, and for a specific drop command, like drop them and defend the area for X time, or keep whoever you dropped alive for X time). And to put incentive to calling on DS's to drop, even go as far as to if possible give bonuses for people who drops out of specific DS's.


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Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:21:00 - [1] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: GOAL: To allow Pilots in HAV's to reasonably engage Pilots in ADS's with their Large turrets without breaking the balance between them, and to allow ADS's to still earn a decent amount of WP's. PROBLEM: At current, ADS's can easily fly past each turret's optimal, more so for blasters and Rockets, but somewhat of Rails. PROBLEM 2: ADS's don't function as T II DS's designed as a more combat focused DS, more so Gunships, because being anything like a DS doesn't reward much of anything as of current. SOLUTIONS 1: 1- Lower the flight ceiling for ADS's to allow rails to still hit incoming ADS's that are flying high, or at least around them to keep them from approaching, or to at least make them have to maneuver, but keep regular DS's from having to deal with constant fire from Rails. Would like Rail ROF slowed however, as it does fire quite fast (although it has quite a short range). 2- Buff Rocket turrets elevation very slightly (maybe 5-10 degrees), and projectile speed as well (needs it anyways to hit further out targets), possibly increase turret rotation (most likely not needed). 3- Increase Blaster elevation (15-25 degrees). OR 1- Introduce a coaxial turret slot that takes up slightly less fitting than a regular small turret, but it has both less ammo, both per mag and total. Also, it has to be changed to (a sidearm of sorts). (Credits to v for this idea). omfg, ADS are easy to shoot out of the sky if you had squaddies. ADS's are ALREADY so easy to kill. SOLUTIONS 2: 1- ADS (and DS's in general tbh) will probably need a slightl buff in eHP after this seeing as things can hit them more. 2- There needs to be much more ways to get points for being a DS pilot, such as more types of transport points, and a way for infantry to call on DS's and even special calls for ADS's, and if they come back LDS's and even FRDS's to pick them up (the regular call would be universal, but special calls might have things tied to it, like for example, ADS call would ask for ADS's only, and for a specific drop command, like drop them and defend the area for X time, or keep whoever you dropped alive for X time). And to put incentive to calling on DS's to drop, even go as far as to if possible give bonuses for people who drops out of specific DS's.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:22:00 - [2] - Quote It is dumb jerks like Godin who have NO idea what the hell they are talking about which has led us to the situation where ADS/DS really can't do much of anything right now. He wants even MORE taken from them. It is already really easy to kill an ADS if you ******* wait for it to engage.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:32:00 - [3] - Quote Assault Dropships ARE gunships until they release actual non-transport air vehicles. They work as intended and those who make them work in the current environment of super-speedy swarms should get kudos. I am down for more things, but your constant, endless push to have them only as transport and not viable in engaging your weak tanks is just sad dude.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:33:00 - [4] - Quote I play vehicles far more than you and unless I am in a PC with like THREE dropships attacking me at once, I'm fine! What you need to do is have a mic, have squaddies and maybe put 1-2 turrets on your tank to carry a guy with AV. Your axial turret can also tag pesky dropships.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:35:00 - [5] - Quote This person OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what the **** he is talking about in regards to tank elevation of the turret. Intelligent use of environment and teamwork effectively nullifies the dropship/assault dropship as is in regards to attacking a tank.
Mary Sedillo Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 400	Posted - 2015.02.25 03:38:00 - [6] - Quote The only way for an ADS not to get killed by me in a conflict is to keep moving rapidly, effectively making him useless against other tanks and infantry or for him to hover above me and I move randomly in order to break his tracking on me. Otherwise, that ADS WILL die if he engages for too long, not to mention the swarms, forge, plasma cannons, wonky physics of flight being also treacherous. Sad thing is, he wraps up his bullshit in a neat little bow that, to the untrained eye, comes off like a jewel, but is his same old rehashed bullshit.