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Slam Stone Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:32:00 - [1] - Quote I had a friend from overseas tell me that I should download a game called Dust 514 and that it was free. So I thought hey, free game, amirite? So I downloaded this game and watched the little movie intro and thought hey this game seems like its really neat! I'm accustomed to Battlefield so I already know FPS mechanics and I was ultra impressed that you can change the controller settings to Battlefield because I was going to do that anyway since that's what I am used too. So I started playing and it took me a few minutes to figure out what to do and I couldn't figure out what "warbarge" was? It only had one circle you could click on and press upgrade and I upgraded it and it said something but I don't remember what it said...but that's irrelevant. I finally got into a game lobby but it only lasted for a few seconds and I saw a bunch of guys standing around and a female voice say something about upgrade something today but then there was the map and I was shocked at how HUGE the map was!! So after a few minutes it said all players must deploy or something and I clicked on a blue circle and it put me in the game but I didn't have a clue where to go but I followed a big blue A on the screen! It took me a few tries to get used to playing and I got killed a lot but I eventually got the hang of it! So on like my 7th match or so, I started getting some kills and put up a 24/8 on the scoreboard and had 4-5 more matches along those lines, most kills I got in one match was 27 and most times I died was 11 So I was having a lot of fun and I played another match because I was addicted! But I got into a match and its like I was in a whole different game....what gives? I went 4/18 and there was a player called BlackStreetHeart in a fat character with a gun that sounded like an angry hornet that killed me less than a second! I thought well they can't all be winners so I played another match and there was another player called Thought You Had Me that was flying around in some kind of helicopter or airplane and killing everyone from the air! I went 3/13 that match! I was getting frustrated and then on my last match of the night there was this player named Michael Epic who kept killing me without doing anything. Is that a hack? Is that a glitch? I'd get near this guy and I'd just die for no reason at all! He wasn't even shooting me! So I played the first 10 matches or so and got used to the game and it was okay and I did okay and then maybe the last 5-6 matches I played I was getting slaughtered and annihilated! What changed!? Is this game buggy? I'm thinking of deleting it because its like the whole thing just bugged out on me!
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3269	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:35:00 - [2] - Quote Not sure if new player, for Veteran with a fake alt, since this smells like an alt.... New players complain in a different way, not in this "Disguised commentary on forum issues." Yes, I'm jaded. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Shadowdrake Drakus RBAAlliance 3	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:37:00 - [3] - Quote You probably graduated from the academy and was thrust into the wolves. Though seeing as you are in a corp, im slightly skeptical of newness, or if you are just bringing satire of how new players "graduate" from the academy and then get into a real match where your war buddy in the MCC asks you how you want the other team to have their way with your body.
Lavallois Nash Federal Transfers and Trades 490	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:39:00 - [4] - Quote I hate to be the one who says this, but its not going to get better for a long time. When you started, you were in "academy". an area reserved for new players. As you got better and stacked points, you got put into "general battle" which is full of vets in a squad. They can tell you are new, and they know you are an easy kill because of it, so they actually try to hunt you. SP, as you gain it over a long time, allows you to add passive bonuses to your suits and weapons. (extra shields, damage, armor, scanning, hiding, ect). Thats why it seems like your gun does nothing but theirs kills in in 2 seconds. They used 100,000ISK suits that a militia suit cant touch. If you want to stick around, i suggest trying out the militia plasma cannon. Difficult to use, but one of the only guns available to you with the firepower to take down a vet player. People will tell you to get in squads, but all that does is teach you how to have 6vs1 fights. It will make the game easier, but you wont grow as much as a player.
jordy mack WarRavens Capital Punishment. 264	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:40:00 - [5] - Quote smells very fishy, but if your legit mail me in game and ill help ya out. Less QQ more PewPew
Lavallois Nash Federal Transfers and Trades 490	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:40:00 - [6] - Quote Shadowdrake Drakus wrote: You probably graduated from the academy and was thrust into the wolves. Though seeing as you are in a corp, im slightly skeptical of newness, or if you are just bringing satire of how new players "graduate" from the academy and then get into a real match where your war buddy in the MCC asks you how you want the other team to have their way with your body. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/DUST_514_NPC_Corporations No such thing as a player in Dust that has no corp. Everyone is assigned a NPC corp when they join or leave a player corp.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3271	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:41:00 - [7] - Quote EDIT: Yeps, Sinq Laison Gendarmes is an NPC corp, but this whole thing still reeks of a Vet Alt making commentary. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Shadowdrake Drakus RBAAlliance 3	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:46:00 - [8] - Quote Completely forgot about NPC corps, it has been such a long time. lol. I amended my previous post but I can relate to OP's post. The horrors you witness fresh out of academy.
Slam Stone Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:46:00 - [9] - Quote I just want to know why the game got all weird on me all of a sudden what is a "vet alt" ?
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2980	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:47:00 - [10] - Quote Agree with Xocoyol, but I'll bite anyway, maybe some noob lurker will find this helpful. The warbarge is a new feature to Dust. It's meant to be a long term, passive generator of ISK, items, and in-game bonuses. The circles are different "subsystems" that give you your stuff and to get them you need to upgrade you warbarge. To upgrade, you need to aquire components through the warbarge factory (the first bubble you get, level that up ASAP), through salvage/strong boxes, or bought for AUR (don't recommend). The best way to go about it is level your factory up has high as you can and collect it everyday. As for matches, new players start out in Academy for a limited time then you join everyone else in public matches. Academy is a lot easier because everyone is low level and usually has no idea about the game, public matches have even the highest SP vets. I suggest using your favorite standard or militia suit with a repair tool and following around a heavy (the guys in the fat suits) to heal him and get more war points. Try and stick close to other teammates and try to get a feel to the flow of battles and the map layouts. Also, consider joining a corporation, they'll usually help out with any questions and are great company in battle. Yes this game has a steep learning curve and it buggy and a whole bunch of other problems, but I love it and it's one of the best games I've ever played. Hope you enjoy it. Dust is there! I was real! Dear diary, Rattati senpai noticed me today~

LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2082	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:49:00 - [11] - Quote 27 kills as a new player??? You're doing fine. Just keep doing what you're doing and skill up your core skills. Someone else is going to explain as I have to get somewhere right now. Good luck! o7 EDIT: never mind, protostompers got you. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3272	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:52:00 - [12] - Quote Slam Stone wrote: I just want to know why the game got all weird on me all of a sudden what is a "vet alt" ? veterans like to make new player accounts to post commentary on how god-aweful the New Player Tutorial is. Your original post reeked of it as most new players don't actually give such an odd "Blow-by-blow" description of their "new experience" especially when it focuses on "traditional" topics. If I was home I'd look you up on the leaderboards and actually check how many games you've actually played and see if it matches up. My main issue is that you allegedly played Battlefield and are accustomed to FPSes but were somehow lost upon encountering the "Giant Blue A" and refuse point blank to use common terminology in FPSes. The "Giant Blue A" is god damn ubiquitous in most every FPS anymore as an "Objective." People say "Spawn" not "put me in the game" Any numbskull can recognize a minigun when they see one even when they don't play video games (And you play Battlefield) and don't need to use several sentences to describe game mechanics common in FPSes, though the "fat man" description was appropriate for a new player. You come off as someone who is completely new to FPSes entirely, due to the ridiculous "newbie" way you string your sentences together, not as a Vet from Battlefield, hence why my BS meter pegged out and broke my screen. If you are actually a new player, I do apologize and recommend you go to the new player forum here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=899 But the OP reeks of Vet BS, though yes I agree that DUST 514 has a terrible new player intro. My Significant Other was completely clueless on FPSes, never played one in her life, and was not this clueless or cumbersome-with-descriptions as the OP is. *I just don't buy it.* "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Duke Noobiam D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 382	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:56:00 - [13] - Quote What you need to do is send me your isk... 3 /10 trolling. Surprised so many fell for it.
Michael Epic Bragian Order Amarr Empire 480	Posted - 2015.02.13 16:58:00 - [14] - Quote I agree with the people in this thread... You sound like you've been here before because otherwise you wouldn't try so hard to mask your terms and make them sound newbie like "Giant Blue A" as Xocoyol himself just said.... As for your post....I was killing you with remote explosives. IF you are truly a new player they function like C4 in Battlefield 4 does. If you played Battlefield I would assume you would be familiar with what happens when you're jollying along and then out of nowhere you're dead. I use remote explosives (C4) mostly because almost everyone is a heavy (the fat character) with an HMG and they hidey hole it up and when you seek to contend with them, they kill you. My way of dealing with them it to throw my lovely discs of death their way and blow them up. I don't understand the point of this thread, but I am happy to have butchered you in game last night. You are definitely a veteran and have definitely played this game before....but, in case I am wrong (as others said) I apologize...I can be kind of an ass from time to time
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3275	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:01:00 - [15] - Quote Also there's this thing called a killfeed as well as a deathscreen that explains why you died. Every FPS I know of has this or a painful killcam that does the same or both. It's pretty nice, next time when someone kills you, try to look an inch/cm to the right of their name and see what they killed you with, might cut down on surprises, kinda like your game Battlefield. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 2053	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:06:00 - [16] - Quote What did you waste your SP on? Are you considering sticking around? Are you willing to play as a component in a squad? Can you follow orders? I ask this because you are in a rough spot. Getting out of it will take months on your own. We can streamline it to a few weeks if your willing to learn. You should consider returning to the academy. I got guys who can take you in and help with the game. It's really up to you. Figuring out everything on your own is a nightmare. The experience can be frustrating. Who wants some?
Duke Noobiam D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 383	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:06:00 - [17] - Quote At least you haven't seen it rain in game yet. The thunder sounds like a deep horn, the ground shakes and massive rain drops from the sky kill you.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 7843	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:13:00 - [18] - Quote Slam When you start the game, you are placed in the Academy. It is a game mode for new players that have less than X War Points (WP). I can't remember what the max is at the moment. After a few games, you acquired enough WP that you "Graduated" from the academy. Then you were thrown in to the general population. It is at that point you started to have problems. That fat suit, a Heavy Sentinel, was wielding an HMG. As a new player, you probably have, if you are lucky 1 million Skill Points. Of those that have been around for years, some have upwards of 50 and 60 million SP. I have taken numerous breaks in my 2 + years, and even I have 31 million SP. Since SP and all the benefits of it create a big disadvantage for you, that is why you are seeing what you are seeing with the games you are playing. You have several options at this point: 1) Accept that you will naturally be at the bottom of the leaderboards as your slaying potential will naturally be less than that of players with more SP. It is not purely a matter of skill, though this game is very complex and does take some experience to know how to approach certain situations, like an HMG Sentinel (use REs). 2) Join a training corp. Some larger corps will have trainers and help bring up new players, while the best are corps involved with the Learning Coalition which is a group of corps whose sole purpose is the training and mentoring of new players. If you do choose No. 1, adding this to your itinerary will make it that much more fun and palatable to continue playing. 3) Take a break. Make sure your main is set up for passive SP (which should be the case if you have no alternate characters on the account) and come back to the game later. In the upcoming months, we expect game levels that will not allow the maximum gear into the match so that new players like you will have more of a shot at a level playing field. It will be much less frustrating of an experience. Also, when you do log back in, you will have some SP to use and if used wisely, make yourself a more viable adversary. 3a) If you take a break, I suggest occasionally visiting these forums. Visit the Rookie Training Grounds and read through any relevant advice. This game is complex and the forums can be a good source of information as to how things work. The in game information is perhaps as low as 1% of the information you really need to understand the game. And sometimes that 1% is confusing and not well presented. 4) Quit. I don't particularly recommend this as I think Dust is a unique experience and that if you give it a fair chance you might find something you like. The game has improved with time and there is still hope for further improvement. It doesn't have to be the only game you play, and can become a part of your game playing menu. Best of Luck o7 Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Chesire Ventus Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:19:00 - [19] - Quote I too am an alt
Nocturnal Soul Primordial Threat 5339	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:27:00 - [20] - Quote Damn you guys are slamming him harder than regular pub matches. (Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ. LASERS BTCH!!!!!! The Incursions are back... and they're golden baby!

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3284	Posted - 2015.02.13 17:29:00 - [21] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Damn you guys are slamming him harder than regular pub matches. If it looks like poo, smells like poo, and tastes like poo... It's poo. You just can't be this clueless yet play Battlefield, you just can't. How the hell can you read a guy's name enough to remember it YET not notice the Remote Explosives literally next to the guys name, nor in the killcard? Then again this is the same guy who did not read the ENORMOUS HUGE POPUP that explains what a Warbarge is but clicked around anyways. How can you play BF and not recognize Remote Explosives as C4, or know what a Blue Glowing Letter in the middle of the map is? The list goes on. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Lizard The Man Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 10	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:20:00 - [22] - Quote I like how you remembered the names, as if you were making a list and checking it twice... I'm, cold-blooded
DarthPlagueis TheWise 454	Posted - 2015.02.13 18:31:00 - [23] - Quote Slam Stone wrote: So I started playing and it took me a few minutes to figure out what to do and I couldn't figure out what "warbarge" was? It only had one circle you could click on and press upgrade and I upgraded it and it said something but I don't remember what it said...but that's irrelevant. Trust me, we don't even understand it yet. Quote: So I was having a lot of fun and I played another match because I was addicted! But I got into a match and its like I was in a whole different game....what gives? Embrace the proto stomp. The thrill of killing people in full proto gear with your basic or militia is what keeps most of us playing this game. You either love it or hate it. Quote: I went 4/18 and there was a player called BlackStreetHeart in a fat character with a gun that sounded like an angry hornet that killed me less than a second! A heavy's weaknesses are electronic warfare, mobility and range. Quote: I thought well they can't all be winners so I played another match and there was another player called Thought You Had Me that was flying around in some kind of helicopter or airplane and killing everyone from the air! Buy a Sica tank from the marketplace and try blasting him out of the sky, or just go with your Anti-Armor Starter Fit. Quote: I went 3/13 that match! I was getting frustrated and then on my last match of the night there was this player named Michael Epic who kept killing me without doing anything. Is that a hack? Is that a glitch? I'd get near this guy and I'd just die for no reason at all! He wasn't even shooting me! No, it's called lag, and I get sick of hearing about people who blame DUST when it's really your ISP's fault. "So I played the first 10 matches or so and got used to the game and it was okay and I did okay and then maybe the last 5-6 matches I played I was getting slaughtered and annihilated! What changed!? Is this game buggy? I'm thinking of deleting it because its like the whole thing just bugged out on me!" It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that you're using weaker gear and weapons than the other team when you get stomped. Take a look at your inventory and start crunching the numbers, because this is an RPG as much as it is a FPS. You love it or you hate it. you know you've been playing dust too long when you can remember the last valentines day sale
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 450	Posted - 2015.02.13 19:41:00 - [24] - Quote Yes, quit while you are ahead. You don't come from EVE, don't understand how CCP does things, don't understand how they design mechanics and don't know the lore. You have nothing to lose and no reason to stay and support CCP with your loyalty. Run. Run far away while you still can. This game is officially dead because CCP can't run a game company beyond EVE for sh*t. Live and learn what you have gotten yourself into. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/05/world-of-darkness-the-inside-story-mmo-ccp-white-wolf Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
jordy mack WarRavens Capital Punishment. 265	Posted - 2015.02.14 00:48:00 - [25] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Damn you guys are slamming him harder than regular pub matches. If it looks like poo, smells like poo,. then probably dont taste it...lol Less QQ more PewPew
Slave of MORTE Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 299	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:23:00 - [26] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Not sure if new player, for Veteran with a fake alt, since this smells like an alt.... New players complain in a different way, not in this "Disguised commentary on forum issues." Yes, I'm jaded. Then im jaded as well Yet another slave of Mortedeamor
Imp Smash Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 682	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:34:00 - [27] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Not sure if new player, for Veteran with a fake alt, since this smells like an alt.... New players complain in a different way, not in this "Disguised commentary on forum issues." Yes, I'm jaded. You are 100% correct. This guy is obviously some random alt of a pissed off vet that wants to complain about Dust.
RemingtonBeaver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1822	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:36:00 - [28] - Quote You're going to get your teeth kicked in the beginning. We all pay or dues. We all get stomped. Even the most vicious vets have bad games. Dust yourself off and keep at it. There's only one way to get better and it's by learning from those guys that melt you like butter. Good luck and find a good corp. Make some friends and ask questions. Hearing the lamentations of Amarr women since 92'.
CarlitoX Jojooojo 84	Posted - 2015.02.14 01:53:00 - [29] - Quote Slam Stone wrote: I upgraded it and it said something but I don't remember what it said...but that's irrelevant. You can't remember that but, you can remember players names? Sounds like a fake newb. Amarr 4 ever.
PLAYSTTION Corrosive Synergy 506	Posted - 2015.02.14 02:47:00 - [30] - Quote Yea uh well welcome to New Eden. You were doing good in Academy then you met us. Us 2-3 year veterans with millions of isk and sp who can run whatever we want. We know the game and ways to stay alive and be great on the battlefield. We have thrown hundreds of dollars into this addiction. Anyway, if you are actually a new player and not an alt, I can help you out a bit. Teach you tactics, give some tips and help out. Im gone this weekend on vacation but ill be back on Monday. I should by then own a Quafe LAV and we can go as a driver gunner pair. I hangout on a few channels but I'm most active on BEAST HEADQUARTERS. If you want more 1 on 1 join LFSquad and we'll squad up. If you want you can join Corrosive Synergy. Search D.Beast Dust 514 on Youtube to watch our CEO filming our shenanigans and epic matches. If you want to join the fun send an application reminding me who you are and ill let you in. I hope you stay here and enjoy the game like we have. See you on the battlefield! Gassault Calogi and more. `- Open Beta Vet - 35mil sp - - Director of Corrosive Synergy -`



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