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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:22:00 -
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We've now got a couple of long racial guides up - for the Gallente and Minmatar, specifically.
I would like to propose we complete the set and structure information so that it is more easily accessible to the average newbie.
Some of the shared elements ought to be put in their own general guide. Common to both of the existing guides are basic explanations of the fitting and skill systems. I suggest stripping these extras from the racial guides and putting them in a general guide.
Under my proposal, we would have five threads:
General Newbie Guide
Amarr Guide Caldari Guide Gallente Guide Minmatar Guide
These threads would be linked together, so the newbie guide would link directly into each of the racial guides for those interested in going further with those races, and possibly also linked to other specialist guides such as those written by Fox Gaden.
I have begun work on the Amarr thread. I'm fairly experienced with Amarr suits, having mained them for a year or so, and I have a great deal of material already there. It is currently perhaps 70% done.
I have also started putting together the general newbie thread.
This leaves the Caldari thread. I -can- write this if nobody else steps up, but I think it would be more appropriate for someone of a more Caldari persuasion to do so. I recommend including instructions on how to get involved in the major FW organisation channels for each faction as well. This way we can hopefully get more people actually involved in FW.
In the interests of putting together a united effort for the education of our newbies, I would also like to propose those interested in getting seriously involved in writing a comprehensive series of guides to DUST contact me. I have set up a gdocs project for collective work on these guides.
Discuss.
moobius 2013 never forget
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Shadowdrake Drakus
RBAAlliance
6
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:49:00 -
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I guess I could do caldari since I am caldari. (dont let the profile fool you, i am terrible at character selection and just pick one and go with in...)
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
208
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Posted - 2015.02.13 16:54:00 -
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All we need is a Caldari and an Amarrian guide.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment
Minmatar Assault
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2181
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Posted - 2015.02.13 18:26:00 -
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Will see what Middas and I can do. Formatting is Bleeeeegh.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution
31
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Posted - 2015.02.15 02:25:00 -
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Willing to colab on a vehicle guide after new HAVs drop.
Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6775
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Posted - 2015.02.15 03:49:00 -
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Willing to not post in the middle of others Copy/Paste thread construction
MOAR Ladders
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17167
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Posted - 2015.02.16 05:03:00 -
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Ah I was thinking of writing one using the same format you used Arkena but seems like you got it.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2195
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Posted - 2015.02.16 17:54:00 -
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I have my basic bullet points down, descriptions of weapons done, working on suggested skill paths for each suit. I'll need to do some fluff things and hammer out descriptions / recommended fits.
Not sure if I should put some stuff in about warbarge. Aiming to have suggested skill paths for 750k, 1m, 1.5m and 2.5m I think. Also have a decent little bit about what caldari suits can be expected to play like based on a mlt frame.
It'll take a few days to put up though I'm not able to get on forums on my computer just yet.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution
35
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Posted - 2015.02.18 02:35:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ah I was thinking of writing one using the same format you used Arkena but seems like you got it. True, do you mind helping me with the vehicle guide after everything drops?
Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17177
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Posted - 2015.02.18 08:43:00 -
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Soul Cairn wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ah I was thinking of writing one using the same format you used Arkena but seems like you got it. True, do you mind helping me with the vehicle guide after everything drops?
Sure I'll do what I can.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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Soul Cairn
Fatal Absolution
39
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Posted - 2015.02.18 22:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Soul Cairn wrote:True Adamance wrote:Ah I was thinking of writing one using the same format you used Arkena but seems like you got it. True, do you mind helping me with the vehicle guide after everything drops? Sure I'll do what I can. I'll contact you in game after the changes have dropped. Unless Skype would be better for you.
Born Ammatar, Caldari at heart.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2206
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Posted - 2015.02.19 12:48:00 -
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Will ask here as Arkena hasn't responded to my ingame - it would help me a lot if I could use some of your stuff in regards to the explanations of fittings and skills.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Kaze Eyrou
DUST University Ivy League
1964
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Posted - 2015.02.20 00:55:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Will ask here as Arkena hasn't responded to my ingame - it would help me a lot if I could use some of your stuff in regards to the explanations of fittings and skills. From Ark since he can't log into the forums anymore:
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:...I need to tell him that he can use whatever he likes that I've already posted. Unfortunately I can't access the other materials right now because I am on a terrible connection.
So feel free. :)
CB Vet // Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2212
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Posted - 2015.02.20 01:23:00 -
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Awesome, thanks.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17184
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Posted - 2015.02.20 10:42:00 -
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Arkena if you don't post that guide I'll post mine quick sharpish.
I see you are facing the same issue as me.
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2215
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Posted - 2015.02.20 11:13:00 -
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Re-looking at Arkenas gallente guide it seems like some of the stuff about skills and fittings could be moved into the intended 'master' newbie guide if/when that gets done as its all generalized information useful for all the guides.
Also had a talk with soul the other day on helping collab on new vehicles when they drop.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
245
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Posted - 2015.02.20 16:56:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Re-looking at Arkenas gallente guide it seems like some of the stuff about skills and fittings could be moved into the intended 'master' newbie guide if/when that gets done as its all generalized information useful for all the guides.
Also had a talk with soul the other day on helping collab on new vehicles when they drop.
Might also be useful to demonstrate skill paths instead of using wordy descriptions to illustrate hierarchies like this:
Dropsuit command 1 Dropsuit upgrades 1 - armor upgrades 1 - shield upgrades 1 - core upgrades 1 - - engineering 1 - - electronics 1 Weaponry 1 This would be good to have I agree. Perhaps it could go briefly into the vehicle skill trees.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment
Guide Writer
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
22220
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:10:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:Re-looking at Arkenas gallente guide it seems like some of the stuff about skills and fittings could be moved into the intended 'master' newbie guide if/when that gets done as its all generalized information useful for all the guides.
This was the intention.
Quote:Might also be useful to demonstrate skill paths instead of using wordy descriptions to illustrate hierarchies like this:
Dropsuit command 1 Dropsuit upgrades 1 - armor upgrades 1 - shield upgrades 1 - core upgrades 1 - - engineering 1 - - electronics 1 Weaponry 1
Yes.
What kind of madness leads to making a sandwich with a rail rifle?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.02.23 07:02:00 -
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For better discussion of these things I would like to set up a Skype group.
My Skype username is 'arkenai' or 'Arkena Wyrnspire' - either should find me. Send me a contact request (and tell me who you are in the request) and I'll put you in the group.
One ski sledgemaster
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
286
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Posted - 2015.02.24 03:37:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:For better discussion of these things I would like to set up a Skype group.
My Skype username is 'arkenai' or 'Arkena Wyrnspire' - either should find me. Send me a contact request (and tell me who you are in the request) and I'll put you in the group. I will set up a skype account ASAP and contact you then.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment
Guide Writer
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2271
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Posted - 2015.03.02 10:55:00 -
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I'm not available on Skype, but I am (infrequently) available on steam at: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005986837/
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
22446
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Posted - 2015.03.03 22:04:00 -
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How goes the Caldari guide, MINA?
Gallente Guide
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
17439
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Posted - 2015.03.03 23:02:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How goes the Caldari guide, MINA?
More importantly have you written that Amarrian one or do I have to do it?
"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2272
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Posted - 2015.03.03 23:18:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How goes the Caldari guide, MINA? I'm futzing about with commandos, sentinels and logi's and trying not to hate too much on sniper rifles. I'm trying to detail effective skillplans starting at 1.5m sp and then explain the choice of skills that go into it, and then maybe do a more advanced skill plan later (because the scout role bonus really prevents them from actually using a cloak field until they have scout 4 or 5). I'm being a little lazy, because of the stuff I want to include.
I'll post a portion of what I've got currently for the cal assault.
Quote: [C.DAS] Caldari Assaults & Suggested Skillplan The Caldari Assault is one of the most commonly encountered Caldari dropsuits and for good reason - assaults are one of the most balanced suits in the game. Assaults in general have the highest inherent HP of medium frames and the large numbers of high and low slots they gain from progressing up dropsuit tiers allows them a lot of fitting versatility. The Caldari assault in particular has above average shield repair and relatively low shield delays, meaning that when properly fitted they can both have and recover large amounts of HP in short periods of time. These are durable long range fighters, though they only have mediocre electronic warfare stats. Assault rails should be used for shorter range engagements, Standard Rails should be used for longer range engagements, when using automatic weaponry like the rail rifles, pistol style weapons like the bolt pistol are highly complementary.
First 1.5m skillpoints Dropsuit command 1 -Caldari Medium Dropsuits 3 (+273.6k sp) -Caldari Assault Dropsuits 1 (+49.7k sp) Dropsuit upgrades 1 -Armor upgrades 1 --Armor plating 3 (+205k sp) -Shield upgrades 3 (+124.4ksp) --shield extension 3 (+205k sp) --shield recharging 1 (+18.7k sp) -Core upgrades 2 (+37.3k sp) --Nanocircuitry 1 (+18.7k sp) --Engineering 2 (+93.3k sp) --Electronics 2 (+93.3k sp) ---Profile Dampening 1 (+18.7k sp) Weaponry 3 (+62.2k) -Explosives 1 (12.4k) --Grenadier 1 (12.4k) -Light Weapon Operation 1 (+12.4k sp) -Rail Rifle Operation 1 (+12.4k sp) -Sidearm Operation 2 (+49.7 ksp) --Bolt Pistol Operation 1 (+12.4k sp) Total ~ 1 445 600 sp
In the end I want to give an example fit for each suit, but I am terrible at proto-fits. The cal assault has already been double-checked to make sure that stuff fits onto it (2ext, 1 recharger, 1 reactive, locus, rail/arr, bolt pistol).
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
22447
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Posted - 2015.03.04 07:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:How goes the Caldari guide, MINA? More importantly have you written that Amarrian one or do I have to do it?
Amarrian one is in editing atm. It'd probably be posted by this weekend except I have to finish a research paper first.
Gallente Guide
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18037
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Posted - 2015.04.08 04:55:00 -
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Amarr one or shall I post mine?
Entitled
Pugillism: The Masculine Art of taking a Beating!
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23125
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Posted - 2015.04.08 07:34:00 -
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Ping me a link on skype?
I haven't gotten around to polishing the final draft of mine yet.
Gallente Guide
one day i may leave the basement but that day is not today
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18123
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Posted - 2015.04.10 02:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ping me a link on skype?
I haven't gotten around to polishing the final draft of mine yet. Bugger now I have to learn to make online documents!
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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james rains
OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance
19
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:10:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:All we need is a Caldari and an Amarrian guide.
I am prototype assault amarr.
Edit: Also Prototype Assault Caldari. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
18308
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Posted - 2015.04.17 04:06:00 -
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james rains wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:All we need is a Caldari and an Amarrian guide. I am prototype assault amarr. Edit: Also Prototype Assault Caldari.
Speaking of I have it all put together but don't have it posted.
GÇ£That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.GÇ¥
-The Nameless City
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