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CCP Rattati wrote:

Atiim wrote:

How is the Tactical AR underpowered when it does more damage than the SCR, can fire more shots than the SCR can before overheating, has the same RPM, while only having -15m?

How is the Burst AR underpowered when it does more damage than the CR, has a larger magazine than the CR (even with MinAssault V), has the same RPM, while only having -12m?

Your entire premise is flawed because usage does not equate to power. Claiming it does is fallacious because it fails to assess other factors which would cause it to be used more (or less), such as objectives being CQC oriented, weapons only being able to damage vehicles, weapon isn't great against the most prevalent tank, examples would be the pre-1.7 Swarm Launcher, which despite being overpowered still remained as the 3rd least used Light Weapon, and the the SMG which despite being the most used Sidearm in the history of DUST is balanced and has adequate advantages and drawbacks to other weapons.

Ask the players, they don't choose those weapons, and when they do, they perform worse with them than other weapons.

It's just facts, that need to be reconciliated with those things. Why indeed?


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Greiv Rabbah 13Art of War13 66	Posted - 2015.02.14 09:05:00 - [1] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Atiim wrote: How is the Tactical AR underpowered when it does more damage than the SCR, can fire more shots than the SCR can before overheating, has the same RPM, while only having -15m? How is the Burst AR underpowered when it does more damage than the CR, has a larger magazine than the CR (even with MinAssault V), has the same RPM, while only having -12m? Your entire premise is flawed because usage does not equate to power. Claiming it does is fallacious because it fails to assess other factors which would cause it to be used more (or less), such as objectives being CQC oriented, weapons only being able to damage vehicles, weapon isn't great against the most prevalent tank, examples would be the pre-1.7 Swarm Launcher, which despite being overpowered still remained as the 3rd least used Light Weapon, and the the SMG which despite being the most used Sidearm in the history of DUST is balanced and has adequate advantages and drawbacks to other weapons. Ask the players, they don't choose those weapons, and when they do, they perform worse with them than other weapons. It's just facts, that need to be reconciliated with those things. Why indeed? The tactical plasma rifle and burst plasma rifle are both close range weapons(blasters) while the cr is a short-mid range weapon(firearms) and the scr is a mid-long range weapon(lasers). These weapons may be underperforming as a result of players trying to use a tar the same as they'd use a scr(fire from range instead of splatter in cqc) or the bar as a cr(potshots from a distance instead of a hard and fast ambush at close range. A blaster cant be treated as a firearm for the simple fact that the forcefield won't carry the fireballs as far as the compressor will hurl the metal shards. In the same way the compressor in a firearm can't hurl the metal shards as far/fast as the crystal can focus the energy pulses. In the same way, a scr vs a tactical snr will lose out bc even though they're both a tactical rifle, the electromagnets in the tactical snr(railgun) shoot the flechette much farther than a laser can travel before the pulse decays. Tl;dr... The tar and bar are probably used poorly not bc of being UP but because people treat every gun in dust as a firearm. A lot of them are blasters, lasers, or railguns, and blasters should be kept at blaster range, not firearm or laser range