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Eruditus 920
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Posted - 2015.02.11 01:02:00 -
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Can it be hip fired with any consistent success?
I have always been a CR merc: just recently started dabbling seriously with the AR.
Started goofing around with it today on a "Covenant" BPO with mixed hip fire success.
It hits twice as hard as the Breach.
It can be rapid fired to a similar rate of fire as the Breach (albeit with a smaller clip size) but the hip fire accuracy was spotty, even though the accuracy rating in the stats is almost the same.
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.02.11 01:03:00 -
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Definitely not.
ScR and CR have some of the best hipfires in the game for their achievable RoFs
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Posted - 2015.02.11 01:11:00 -
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The TacAR works better as a CQC type hipfire weapon over its bulking and swaying ADS mechanics.
However, it really isn't going to beat a CR.
Its more of a slower paced weapon that you traffic control lines of sight with.
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Tectonic Fusion
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Posted - 2015.02.11 01:15:00 -
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The TAR is great. However it falls short at range and consistency. Great for flanking though.
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
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Posted - 2015.02.11 01:56:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Definitely not.
ScR and CR have some of the best hipfires in the game for their achievable RoFs
TacAR has slightly better hipfire than the ScR, but slightly worse ADS accuracy.
Do you even know what you are talking about?
Its rediculous how many people just spout anti-ScR sentiment without even doing any research on them.
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:00:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Definitely not.
ScR and CR have some of the best hipfires in the game for their achievable RoFs TacAR has slightly better hipfire than the ScR, but slightly worse ADS accuracy. Do you even know what you are talking about? Its rediculous how many people just spout anti-ScR sentiment without even doing any research on them.
Reticule doesn't mean squat. That's why I included the last bit.
Shooting the ScR at max RoF (which is higher than the TAC AR's) does not make the weapon kick very much, if at all, making it pretty easy to aim with. The TAC Ar, however, kicks much more than the ScR, making it harder to aim with and making you having to sacrifice RoF to aim. Same deal with the Combat rifle. No kick, higher RoF.
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DeadlyAztec11
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:04:00 -
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Compared to the Scrambler Rifle it seems worse off when hipfiring. Though, it is pretty good when used on the Gallente Assault since it improves recoil and hipfire by 25%. If you add that to the 25% decrease to dispersion from sharpshooter then you have a pretty accurate weapon on your hands.
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:06:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Compared to the Scrambler Rifle it seems worse off when hipfiring. Though, it is pretty good when used on the Gallente Assault since it improves recoil and hipfire by 25%. If you add that to the 25% decrease to dispersion from sharpshooter then you have a pretty accurate weapon on your hands.
Of course. More SP intensive however. Not hating on the ScR specifically though. CR also has this.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:06:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Definitely not.
ScR and CR have some of the best hipfires in the game for their achievable RoFs TacAR has slightly better hipfire than the ScR, but slightly worse ADS accuracy. Do you even know what you are talking about? Its rediculous how many people just spout anti-ScR sentiment without even doing any research on them. Reticule doesn't mean squat. That's why I included the last bit. Shooting the ScR at max RoF (which is higher than the TAC AR's) does not make the weapon kick very much, if at all, making it pretty easy to aim with. The TAC Ar, however, kicks much more than the ScR, making it harder to aim with and making you having to sacrifice RoF to aim. Same deal with the Combat rifle. No kick, higher RoF.
Their max RoF is the exact same. Again, no research at all?
ScR has higher kick than the TacAR, but the TacAR has a more random kick pattern, whereas the ScR kicks straight up with no variance.
Once you get sharpshooter to 4-5 for ARs however, the kick on TacARs is negligible, with Galassault, its pretty much not even there.
So really, no. The TacAR has better hipfire.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:09:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Compared to the Scrambler Rifle it seems worse off when hipfiring. Though, it is pretty good when used on the Gallente Assault since it improves recoil and hipfire by 25%. If you add that to the 25% decrease to dispersion from sharpshooter then you have a pretty accurate weapon on your hands. Of course. More SP intensive however. Not hating on the ScR specifically though. CR also has this.
Getting the ScR to Fitting Optimization 4-5 to cut back the severe PG costs more SP than both Sharpshooter V and Gallassault 5 together.
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Assert Dominance
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:16:00 -
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hip fire is good but not great. the scope is good for longe range kills as well... if ur good
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:17:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:Getting the ScR to Fitting Optimization 4-5 to cut back the severe PG costs more SP than both Sharpshooter V and Gallassault 5 together.
O...K... but that isn't even the point here. I could say that the AR is more fitting intensive as it ALSO has that skill, plus sharpshooter... get on point man.
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Fizzer XCIV
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:41:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Getting the ScR to Fitting Optimization 4-5 to cut back the severe PG costs more SP than both Sharpshooter V and Gallassault 5 together. O...K... but that isn't even the point here. I could say that the AR is more fitting intensive as it ALSO has that skill, plus sharpshooter... get on point man.
ARs without fitting optimization use less PG than a ScR with Optimization V.
I just figure since we are using the argument of "we have to use SP to make up for their drawbacks, there for higher SP costs"...
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LUGMOS
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:43:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Getting the ScR to Fitting Optimization 4-5 to cut back the severe PG costs more SP than both Sharpshooter V and Gallassault 5 together. O...K... but that isn't even the point here. I could say that the AR is more fitting intensive as it ALSO has that skill, plus sharpshooter... get on point man. ARs without fitting optimization use less PG than a ScR with Optimization V. I just figure since we are using the argument of "we have to use SP to make up for their drawbacks, there for higher SP costs"...
Never said that was the case, but ok.
What do you say about my "reticule means squat" post?
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Posted - 2015.02.11 02:45:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV
Tal-Romon Legion
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Posted - 2015.02.11 03:00:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:LUGMOS wrote:Fizzer XCIV wrote:Getting the ScR to Fitting Optimization 4-5 to cut back the severe PG costs more SP than both Sharpshooter V and Gallassault 5 together. O...K... but that isn't even the point here. I could say that the AR is more fitting intensive as it ALSO has that skill, plus sharpshooter... get on point man. ARs without fitting optimization use less PG than a ScR with Optimization V. I just figure since we are using the argument of "we have to use SP to make up for their drawbacks, there for higher SP costs"... Never said that was the case, but ok. What do you say about my "reticule means squat" post?
I was sorta paraphrasing. Not quoting you.
This is a quote.
"Of course. More SP intensive..."
But the point remains. Saying that ARs are more SP intensive than ScRs because of Sharpshooter is silly, because ScRs end up being more SP intensive in the end of it all because they need Optimization while ARs don't necessarily need it.
...and I did give you a reply on that post up above.
I do want to say that saying "the reticule means squat" when talking about hipfire is just will as well. Hipfire cone and bloom are the most important parts of hipfiring. Easily more important than kick and recoil, which mean more while ADS...
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Archduke Ferd1nand
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Posted - 2015.02.11 03:22:00 -
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Tac AR is THE best rifle in the game, but to use it to its full potential, you need a Gal Assault.
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