DUST Search - Does CCP still have the codes for Crater Lake?

Buwaro Draemon wrote:

Sgt Kirk wrote:

Ohhhhhhhh man I would love to see crater lake and old manus peak back (with a few mods)

Really the bowl map, I miss it so much..

The only real problem I had with the old Manus Peak was that on the Defender's side. on K-8, k-9, there was a mountain there that every single redberry sniped from and sicne it as inside the redline it was almost impossible trying to go kill those snipers (you couldn't counter snipe a lot back then because of head glitching)

The other mountain, was actually really cool having it there. All CCP needed to do was to also add another route to Manus Peak from the Attacker's side rather than having it only on the defenders side. That way some good confrontations could have happened up here.

I do remember that whenever I was on the Attacker side and wanted to go up the mountain I wouls either use a DS or go to the enemy's redline and try to climb it as fast before the timer went down. Tho I always got sniped or killed by a turret Cry

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Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 982	Posted - 2015.02.10 02:53:00 - [1] - Quote Along side with Skirmish 1.0? If they still do, I believe they should launch an event regarding that. So players that never got to play Skirmish 1.0 and Crater Lake map would get a chance to play. CCP could also use this even to gather information from this event on map making and skirmish 1.0 feedback. Since we have a bigger player now compared to those days. This would be a good thing. It would give old vets, like me, a good nostalgia trip while giving the players that have never experienced this map with that game mode a fresher "feel" of the game. This is, of course, if it can be done. Changes to Damage mods!
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2008	Posted - 2015.02.10 02:53:00 - [2] - Quote No. I believe it was all coded on a different server than UE3. Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 9521	Posted - 2015.02.10 02:54:00 - [3] - Quote Ohhhhhhhh man I would love to see crater lake and old manus peak back (with a few mods) Really the bowl map, I miss it so much.. *~New Eden's #1 Gallente Arm's Dealer*
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17063	Posted - 2015.02.10 02:55:00 - [4] - Quote Last I heard it was buried so deep that they couldn't dredge it up. Kinda like my positive memories of Dust.............. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 982	Posted - 2015.02.10 02:55:00 - [5] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: No. I believe it was all coded on a different server than UE3. Wat? The server we played by that time was Sisi. Tho, didn't Dust always ran on the Unreal Engine 3? Changes to Damage mods!
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 982	Posted - 2015.02.10 02:56:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Last I heard it was buried so deep that they couldn't dredge it up. Kinda like my positive memories of Dust.............. Oh Changes to Damage mods!
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 983	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:03:00 - [7] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Ohhhhhhhh man I would love to see crater lake and old manus peak back (with a few mods) Really the bowl map, I miss it so much.. The only real problem I had with the old Manus Peak was that on the Defender's side. on K-8, k-9, there was a mountain there that every single redberry sniped from and sicne it as inside the redline it was almost impossible trying to go kill those snipers (you couldn't counter snipe a lot back then because of head glitching) The other mountain, was actually really cool having it there. All CCP needed to do was to also add another route to Manus Peak from the Attacker's side rather than having it only on the defenders side. That way some good confrontations could have happened up here. I do remember that whenever I was on the Attacker side and wanted to go up the mountain I wouls either use a DS or go to the enemy's redline and try to climb it as fast before the timer went down. Tho I always got sniped or killed by a turret Changes to Damage mods!
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1869	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:04:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Last I heard it was buried so deep that they couldn't dredge it up. Kinda like my positive memories of Dust.............. HAH! Wait... :( "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3186	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:05:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Last I heard it was buried so deep that they couldn't dredge it up. This. Talked to a bunch of devs about it last year (or two, now I guess?) on IRC and this was their response, and every change to DUST 514 will only make it worse. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Alex-ZX Valor Coalition Red Whines. 244	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:21:00 - [10] - Quote Skirmish 1.0!!!-í!!!!!! Come back for the love of god Alex's modified ZX-030 HMG Luis' modified VC-107 CR Alex's modified VC-107 SMG *Owner of this beasts*

Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 983	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote Since my knowledge on all this coding stuff is poor, what will be the complications if they were ever to dig it back up? Changes to Damage mods!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17064	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:33:00 - [12] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Since my knowledge on all this coding stuff is poor, what will be the complications if they were ever to dig it back up? Couldn't comment on what might happen but somewhere I'm pretty sure Rattati said it would be impossible....... however why it couldn't be reintroduced using old information and constructs I could not say. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 983	Posted - 2015.02.10 03:41:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Since my knowledge on all this coding stuff is poor, what will be the complications if they were ever to dig it back up? Couldn't comment on what might happen but somewhere I'm pretty sure Rattati said it would be impossible....... however why it couldn't be reintroduced using old information and constructs I could not say. It'd be great if they did Changes to Damage mods!
LUGMOS Corrosive Synergy 2008	Posted - 2015.02.10 04:08:00 - [14] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Since my knowledge on all this coding stuff is poor, what will be the complications if they were ever to dig it back up? They might delete some letters or numbers for some assets on accident, or mess up the order. It could result in the destruction of the entire game. Muahahahaa!!! Official QuafeGäó Advocate Anti-FoTM Prof. V Forum Scavenger Prof. V
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 525	Posted - 2015.02.10 05:06:00 - [15] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Ohhhhhhhh man I would love to see crater lake and old manus peak back (with a few mods) Really the bowl map, I miss it so much.. The only real problem I had with the old Manus Peak was that on the Defender's side. on K-8, k-9, there was a mountain there that every single redberry sniped from and sicne it as inside the redline it was almost impossible trying to go kill those snipers (you couldn't counter snipe a lot back then because of head glitching) The other mountain, was actually really cool having it there. All CCP needed to do was to also add another route to Manus Peak from the Attacker's side rather than having it only on the defenders side. That way some good confrontations could have happened up here. I do remember that whenever I was on the Attacker side and wanted to go up the mountain I wouls either use a DS or go to the enemy's redline and try to climb it as fast before the timer went down. Tho I always got sniped or killed by a turret That's not old Manus Peak, that's interlude Manus Peak, before the Manus Hills map we have now. Old Manus Peak had all the snipers grouped up on B, since it had high ground, while infantry would slug it out between A in the fishbowl and C in the spiky area across from it, and you'd have two heavily entrenched blobs of infantry with a few snipers out there taking potshots. God, I miss that map. Closed Beta Vet since April 2012 The Laser Rifle- Reach Out And Burn Slaves Proud owner of basically every BPO in Dust
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7418	Posted - 2015.02.10 05:34:00 - [16] - Quote LUGMOS wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Since my knowledge on all this coding stuff is poor, what will be the complications if they were ever to dig it back up? They might delete some letters or numbers for some assets on accident, or mess up the order. It could result in the destruction of the entire game. Muahahahaa!!! That's not how coding works. They could easily copy and paste the code. The problem, I'm going to speculate, is that the map is variables made using variables inherent to that build. Which would mean that they would painstakingly have to go through and revise the old code, which would be like building an entire new map from scratch. So they probably can't just copy and paste it into rotation, but most likely can build it from an intensely revised copy. Given Dust 514's limited assets it might not be a good idea. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Cat Merc Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 15067	Posted - 2015.02.10 05:37:00 - [17] - Quote They changed the way their maps work a looong time ago, and bringing back crater lake would require rebuilding it from scratch. Cat Merc for C¦¦P¦¦M¦¦9¦¦ CPM Nyan! *Vote 'Keshava' for the new Gallente vehicle name!*
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 985	Posted - 2015.02.10 08:07:00 - [18] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: LUGMOS wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Since my knowledge on all this coding stuff is poor, what will be the complications if they were ever to dig it back up? They might delete some letters or numbers for some assets on accident, or mess up the order. It could result in the destruction of the entire game. Muahahahaa!!! That's not how coding works. They could easily copy and paste the code. The problem, I'm going to speculate, is that the map is variables made using variables inherent to that build. Which would mean that they would painstakingly have to go through and revise the old code, which would be like building an entire new map from scratch. So they probably can't just copy and paste it into rotation, but most likely can build it from an intensely revised copy. Given Dust 514's limited assets it might not be a good idea. I see. So it might be as easy as some might think. It was just a random idea I had. Giving new players the feel of the old Dust. Before the dark times. Before skirmish 2.0. While giving people like a good old nostalgia trip. Hell, maybe they will bring it back someday. There is a "New Game mode" on Trello for 1.1 so I am a little hopeful. Tho I am 80% sure that the new game mode would bethe roaming Dom mode Rattati metioned a while back. Changes to Damage mods!


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