Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:13:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:
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In order for someone to get everything that I have now, without spending aurum, it would take them roughly 6 months. It's freaking ridiculous. Dust is officially Pay-to-win.
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Crazy man.
/*sigh*
If there is ANY WAY with which a player can achieve the same thing without having to pay anything other than just time then it is not pay to win. Pay to Win requires that what you paid for in cash can't be obtained any other way.
If you count time as part of pay to win then by that logic even free players who never paid any AUR have been doing pay to win since forever because they spent time playing the game. Do you see the flaw in this logic?
Also, the warbarge is extremely passive. It's not meant to be your primary source of income just like how Planetary Interaction is in Eve Online. It's one of those setup-and-forget kind of things and only check back once a day to collect. I don't care if it takes me 6 months to get to your level. I'll get there eventually without paying any AUR for the warbarge components. And yes, even a family man can have the patience for it. Remember, it's a setup-and-forget feature.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
11000
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Posted - 2015.02.11 16:17:00 -
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Big Burns wrote:Justicar Karnellia wrote:This argument has been dismantled many many times on these forums.
A paywall is - content which you cannot have acces to at all without paying for. Dust has no paywalls.
This mechanism is , everyone gets access to the same content, be it skill points, suits, weapons , but just at different rates. You can play Dust 514 without spending a cent but don't expect to be running proto suits and the best weapons at the same time as everyone else.
And lastly, it's a business model - meaning, it's there to make money. It's just a different model as opposed to the subscription model. Yes it does. You can't get 30 day boosters out of salvage. You have to buy them. You can't get Abyss drop uplinks with a -47.65 timer on them, out of salvage. You have to buy both of these^
Source:
https://trello.com/b/R44szWCe/dust-514-development-roadmap
According to CCP Rattati's Trello board, Simple Trading will be coming in 1.1 (next update). That feature alone will obliterate any and all claims of pay to win.
EDIT: Eve Online's PLEX is the same thing. CCP earns money from PLEX sales, seller earns ISK from selling PLEX, and buyer gets PLEX for paying ISK. Everyone wins all because of trade.
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