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Roy Ventus wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

Pseudogenesis wrote:

No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade?

This.

I like fluxes where they are, and I wear a shield based suit.

Amarrian Multispectral Dissonance Grenade. Produced disorienting bursts of light at differing wave lengths that has the effect of scrambling a dropsuits sensor suite and causing it to over compensate and subsequently reset.

Has the unfortunate side affect of ... I dunno blinding severely or burning the eyes out of those who are not protected by the drop-suit filters.

Always believed the Amarr should have something like that. The majority of their mantra is all about "cleansing" their enemies with bright, almost holy-like, lights. Besides, out of everybody, being blinded by some Amarrian mercs would be some scary ish... And I'm a Gallente. :V We have the LEAST to fear when it comes to them on the battlefield...

Edit: Also, to the one guy that was saying we shouldn't make a new type of anti-shield grenade because the Caldari only have the Anti-Vehicle grenade...

Wouldn't it be a better argument to say give the Caldari a NEW anti-armor grenade specifically for anti-infantry? You know... Because Anti-Vehicle grenades don't do nothing against infantry?

"This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."

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Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15530	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:20:00 - [1] - Quote Would you be okay with nerfing or removing damage dealt to dropsuits, if Fluxes could: Reset Capacitor of Dropsuit Equipment Disable Handheld Equipment for Xs Jam Radar for Xs Disable Passive Scanners for Xs Temporary Reduce Bandwidth by Xmb/s GåÉ Not too sure on this one. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 3186	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:24:00 - [2] - Quote They would still have to have some damage, otherwise nobody would use them. Also I'd rather just see a "new" grenade then get rid of the flux as it is, I need it for my playstyle and it is very unique. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17038	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:25:00 - [3] - Quote **** Shield Suits "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15530	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:26:00 - [4] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Who would use them then? I would. Being able to jam someone's radar and equipment, while also temporarly removing their passive scans and potentially destroying some of their equipment (by reducing their bandwith) is pretty good. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1528	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:26:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: Would you be okay with nerfing or removing damage dealt to dropsuits, if Fluxes could: Reset Capacitor of Dropsuit Equipment Disable Handheld Equipment for Xs Jam Radar for Xs Disable Passive Scanners for Xs Temporary Reduce Bandwidth by Xmb/s GåÉ Not too sure on this one. Yes to all, if its a variant grenade based on the flux attributes I'm a Bitter-Hopeful-Angry-Pleased-Pragmatic-Resourceful-Annoying-Rainman-Chiller-Stupid-Tricky Vet. Pick one for today.
JUDASisMYhomeboy xCosmic Voidx 388	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:27:00 - [6] - Quote Flux grenades are one area i agree with shield tankers on. Nerf infantry flux to locus levels and introduce a flux av grenade. Flux proxies would be nice too "In a world gone mad,only a lunatic is truly insane" Homer J Simpson
Operative 1174 Uuali Y.A.M.A.H 434	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:29:00 - [7] - Quote Why fluxes? Why not just make a new kind of grenade? Flash bang? ECCM? Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1867	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:29:00 - [8] - Quote Make a Flux variant or simply just create a new type of grenade. Flux variant would work better, imo. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15531	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:32:00 - [9] - Quote JUDASisMYhomeboy wrote: Flux grenades are one area i agree with shield tankers on. Nerf infantry flux to locus levels and introduce a flux av grenade. Flux proxies would be nice too My idea would be to buff the Locus Grenade to the point where it's reasonably effective against both Shields and Armor, while making the Flux Grenade the anti-electronic grenade (like an actual EMP). Though I would still have a packed variant for the Gunnlogis, because screw Gunnlogies. Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Why fluxes? Why not just make a new kind of grenade? Flash bang? ECCM? Because Flux Grenades have already been established as an EMP and a new grenade that's not a simple reskin (thus defeating the purpose) won't be happening anytime soon. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15531	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:38:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: **** Shield Suits You'd still be able to use it to wipe someone's shields. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17038	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:46:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: ** Shield Suits You'd still be able to use it to wipe someone's shields. ** Shield........whut......? "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Pseudogenesis nos nothi 1660	Posted - 2015.02.09 19:56:00 - [12] - Quote No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade? Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
sabre prime Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 962	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:02:00 - [13] - Quote I don't get it. Why not just create a new grenade? Atiim wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Why fluxes? Why not just make a new kind of grenade? Flash bang? ECCM? Because Flux Grenades have already been established as an EMP and a new grenade that's not a simple reskin (thus defeating the purpose) won't be happening anytime soon. Re-skinning the fluxes would surely be pretty easy? Rattati has already mentioned making new heavy weapon variants by doing exactly this with existing assets. You just want the grenade to function differently. Doesn't have to look different too. You're only going to look at it for a second before you throw the damn thing. I would like newer grenade variants. But would rather have diversification rather than homogenization. Adding a new variant of the EMP grenade, that wipes out a suits scanning, sensors (but not shields) would be cool. Maybe give it a larger blast radius too. The slow blade penetrates the shield.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Capital Punishment. 978	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:12:00 - [14] - Quote The flux grenade was made by the Gallente to destroy the shields of the Caldari. Especially vehicles. The AV grenade was made by the Caldari to destroy the armor tanked vehicles of the Gallente. It wouldn't be fair that we had grenades that dealt significant damage tl armor, but no grenade designed to take out heavily shielded units. Changes to Damage mods!
Azrael Aranis Ready to Play 24	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:26:00 - [15] - Quote Personally I don't have any issues with the way grenades are right now; I pretty much exclusively run Caldari Assault suits, and usually use fluxes so my rail rifle can get to doing its job. Reddots with flux grenades usually spell the end for my suit. But I choose to "specialize" in shield tanked suits, and if someone runs equipment to counter my playstyle so be it... Nature of the game and all that. Buffing Locus damage vs Shields would be pretty bad IMHO, as it will take away the need to run "specialist" equipment and everyone would simply run around with Locus grenades. Right now running flux will increase your chances versus shield tanked suits (which are less common) but are of little use vs the armor tanked suits out there. I would say that fluxes could do with a nerf to damage output to bring them closer to locus grenades, because the abbility to strip the shields of any suit with a basic grenade is pretty harsh. Giving them a buff in the form of an added ability like mentioned in the OP would be a nice compensation for flux users. --- Now if they could freeze/slow a merc so I can hit those pesky minmattar... Thatd be great
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 22025	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:47:00 - [16] - Quote Atiim wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Who would use them then? I would. Being able to jam someone's radar and equipment, while also temporarly removing their passive scans and potentially destroying some of their equipment (by reducing their bandwith) is pretty good. Alternatively just whack them with a core locus and then they won't be able to see anything because they'll be dead. :Bittervetting intensifies:
One Eyed King nos nothi 7726	Posted - 2015.02.09 20:49:00 - [17] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade? This. I like fluxes where they are, and I wear a shield based suit. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
All Gucci T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K General Tso's Alliance 191	Posted - 2015.02.09 21:01:00 - [18] - Quote Atiim wrote: Would you be okay with nerfing or removing damage dealt to dropsuits, if Fluxes could: Reset Capacitor of Dropsuit Equipment Disable Handheld Equipment for Xs Jam Radar for Xs Disable Passive Scanners for Xs Temporary Reduce Bandwidth by Xmb/s GåÉ Not too sure on this one. As to why, it's part of a larger idea I call Grenades 2.0. No. Director / Slayer / Emperor
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17039	Posted - 2015.02.09 21:08:00 - [19] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade? This. I like fluxes where they are, and I wear a shield based suit. Amarrian Multispectral Dissonance Grenade. Produced disorienting bursts of light at differing wave lengths that has the effect of scrambling a dropsuits sensor suite and causing it to over compensate and subsequently reset. Has the unfortunate side affect of ... I dunno blinding severely or burning the eyes out of those who are not protected by the drop-suit filters. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 6056	Posted - 2015.02.09 21:10:00 - [20] - Quote Two dudes with MDs. One flux variant and one regular variant. Oh my I'm selling Templar Codes. 2 of 5 remaining. 225 mil ISK. Message me in game.

Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1950	Posted - 2015.02.09 21:30:00 - [21] - Quote I use a Flux on my cal heavy to Jumpstart my recharge. Who wants some?
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 1529	Posted - 2015.02.09 21:50:00 - [22] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Two dudes with MDs. One flux variant and one regular variant. Oh my Would buy much more Aurum if this would ever happen I'm a Bitter-Hopeful-Angry-Pleased-Pragmatic-Resourceful-Annoying-Rainman-Chiller-Stupid-Tricky Vet. Pick one for today.
cris bleu Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 83	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:11:00 - [23] - Quote I would use them. I only really use fluxes to destroy deployed equipment anyway.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1869	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:21:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade? This. I like fluxes where they are, and I wear a shield based suit. Amarrian Multispectral Dissonance Grenade. Produced disorienting bursts of light at differing wave lengths that has the effect of scrambling a dropsuits sensor suite and causing it to over compensate and subsequently reset. Has the unfortunate side affect of ... I dunno blinding severely or burning the eyes out of those who are not protected by the drop-suit filters. Always believed the Amarr should have something like that. The majority of their mantra is all about "cleansing" their enemies with bright, almost holy-like, lights. Besides, out of everybody, being blinded by some Amarrian mercs would be some scary ish... And I'm a Gallente. :V We have the LEAST to fear when it comes to them on the battlefield... Edit: Also, to the one guy that was saying we shouldn't make a new type of anti-shield grenade because the Caldari only have the Anti-Vehicle grenade... Wouldn't it be a better argument to say give the Caldari a NEW anti-armor grenade specifically for anti-infantry? You know... Because Anti-Vehicle grenades don't do nothing against infantry? "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." http://royventus.tumblr.com
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 17045	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:38:00 - [25] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: True Adamance wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade? This. I like fluxes where they are, and I wear a shield based suit. Amarrian Multispectral Dissonance Grenade. Produced disorienting bursts of light at differing wave lengths that has the effect of scrambling a dropsuits sensor suite and causing it to over compensate and subsequently reset. Has the unfortunate side affect of ... I dunno blinding severely or burning the eyes out of those who are not protected by the drop-suit filters. Always believed the Amarr should have something like that. The majority of their mantra is all about "cleansing" their enemies with bright, almost holy-like, lights. Besides, out of everybody, being blinded by some Amarrian mercs would be some scary ish... And I'm a Gallente. :V We have the LEAST to fear when it comes to them on the battlefield... Edit: Also, to the one guy that was saying we shouldn't make a new type of anti-shield grenade because the Caldari only have the Anti-Vehicle grenade... Wouldn't it be a better argument to say give the Caldari a NEW anti-armor grenade specifically for anti-infantry? You know... Because Anti-Vehicle grenades don't do nothing against infantry? Eff off the Caldari get nothing. They already have everything handed to them by CCP who consistently seem to play favourites having already reduced Dust 514 to EVE: Caldari-Gallente War Simulator in a world where no one likes the hyper fascist, capitalist, big business ** wads anyway...... But fortunately for those who don't want to be Space Murica or Daddy Warbuck's socially awkward children CCP released Half Finished Content 1.0: The Update and subsequently 1.1, and 1.2. In which they slowly introduce and teases players aligned with the other two supposedly "Key Factions" by spitting out small content updates while they pretend to be concerned with the implementation of racial parity. Yet they plot in their dark conclaves, with the harrowing screams of the lost and the damned, talk of efficiency dripping from their lips, to develop yet more gloriously awful Caldari Content, spoon feeding the Gallente fans with rationalisations of "why the ** not the Caldari need an enemy" all the while wondering why the greater majority of the player base thinks the Caldari "suck the proverbial phallus shaped implement." Phew..... pent up content rage over....... the world is a brighter place. "This is the Usumgal boy, the exalted dragon, wreathed in the fires of heaven. He is a true symbol of God's majesty."
Devadander Woodgrain Atari 231	Posted - 2015.02.09 22:42:00 - [26] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: I use a Flux on my cal heavy to Jumpstart my recharge. Same. "Lets group up and push an objective" ~ No blueberry ever 07-28-12 ~Deal with it~
Fizzer XCIV Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 2375	Posted - 2015.02.09 23:00:00 - [27] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: True Adamance wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: No I wouldn't. Why not just make a new grenade? This. I like fluxes where they are, and I wear a shield based suit. Amarrian Multispectral Dissonance Grenade. Produced disorienting bursts of light at differing wave lengths that has the effect of scrambling a dropsuits sensor suite and causing it to over compensate and subsequently reset. Has the unfortunate side affect of ... I dunno blinding severely or burning the eyes out of those who are not protected by the drop-suit filters. Always believed the Amarr should have something like that. The majority of their mantra is all about "cleansing" their enemies with bright, almost holy-like, lights. Besides, out of everybody, being blinded by some Amarrian mercs would be some scary ish... And I'm a Gallente. :V We have the LEAST to fear when it comes to them on the battlefield... Edit: Also, to the one guy that was saying we shouldn't make a new type of anti-shield grenade because the Caldari only have the Anti-Vehicle grenade... Wouldn't it be a better argument to say give the Caldari a NEW anti-armor grenade specifically for anti-infantry? You know... Because Anti-Vehicle grenades don't do nothing against infantry? I swear to God. If the Caldari get 2 grenades before the Amarr get one, because the Caldari won't ever stop bitching and whining about anti shield weapons... ...I couldn't be held liable for my own actions. Home at Last <3
Mex-0 T.H.I.R.D R.O.C.K 369	Posted - 2015.02.09 23:03:00 - [28] - Quote I use flux grenades to make newbie dropshippers panic. Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency 7418	Posted - 2015.02.09 23:12:00 - [29] - Quote No I wouldn't. I use fluxes specifically to destroy shields and equipment. Put your flags up in the sky. And wave them side to side. Show the world where you're from. Show the world we are one.
Thumb Green Raymond James Corp 2087	Posted - 2015.02.09 23:13:00 - [30] - Quote Like others have said, fluxes are fine as they are. Just make another grenade to do that stuff with. Take your stinking paws off me, you damned dirty hipster! [RYJC]



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