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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2015.02.09 03:35:00 -
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I thought SubMachine Guns were Minmatar Weapons? Did the Minmatar have a deal with the Caldari even though the Caldari are allies with the Amarr, wouldn't the Amarr break the alliance up if they found out their ally was working with their enemies? It's kinda confusing that a Caldari Corporation is making Minmatar SMG models for a faction that they're suppose to be against but in reality is actually helping them out.
I'm surprised that the Amarrians haven't found out yet, this would make an interesting story of the Amarrians not trusting anyone anymore & goes solo on taking out their enemies in New Eden, if they can that is... |
Buwaro Draemon
WarRavens
Capital Punishment.
973
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Posted - 2015.02.09 03:39:00 -
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The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong.
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ThePlayerkyle13
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
176
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Posted - 2015.02.09 03:50:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong.
I know the Caldari is bunch of Corperations, but wouldn't it still hinder the relationship between the two factions? I mean with all the intel they would be transferring with each other for the war effort, you would've thought not to give information to allies that are working with your enemies, Corperation or not they're still Caldari & they represent their people, if one Corperation manages to mess up a relationship between a good ally their must be some kinda rule in place for it to avoid anymore incidences, because to be honest I don't think the Caldari can hold their own against the Gallente, if they lose the Amarr they may lose the War Effort against their enemies. |
Talos Vagheitan
Ancient Exiles.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:23:00 -
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Business is business. The USA funds both sides in many conflicts around the globe and it's not like anyone on Earth has a problem with the USA.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
1982
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:39:00 -
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Why is there a Viziam Forge Gun?
Why do the Minmatar get a bonus to Nova Knives?
Why are Nova Knives Caldanese?
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
2952
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:40:00 -
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Same reason there's a Viziam Forge.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:42:00 -
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Caldari Ishukone corporation is the one who made insorum, a cure for vitoc (slave control method used by Amarr) for the Minmatar to safely liberate other Minmatar from Amarr slavery. Ishukone is the center of the liberal faction of the Caldari, and historically have been on good terms with the Minmatar. It's conceivable that they might manufacture a weapon from Minmatar design, or help in some way with the weapon.
I'm surprised you don't have a problem with the Quafe corporation (Gallente) making Caldari and Amarr items.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10985
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:44:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong. I know the Caldari is bunch of Corperations, but wouldn't it still hinder the relationship between the two factions? I mean with all the intel they would be transferring with each other for the war effort, you would've thought not to give information to allies that are working with your enemies, Corperation or not they're still Caldari & they represent their people, if one Corperation manages to mess up a relationship between a good ally their must be some kinda rule in place for it to avoid anymore incidences, because to be honest I don't think the Caldari can hold their own against the Gallente, if they lose the Amarr they may lose the War Effort against their enemies.
As Talos pointed out, business is business. A Caldari corporation isn't really restricted to just serving Caldari inhabitants. They have made deals with other factions before and continue to do so because it is profitable for them which is the whole point of being a corporation. To make a profit. If they choose to serve only Caldari clientele then that's their business.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
12036
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:44:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Same reason there's a Viziam Forge.
Caldari (makes forge guns) and Amarr (has Viziam corporation) are allies. That aside, there is actual lore reason why the Minmatar and the Ishukone corporation would work together, I explained in my earlier post.
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
10985
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:46:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I'm surprised you don't have a problem with the Quafe corporation (Gallente) making Caldari and Amarr items.
A company that is known mainly for its soft drink. It's like Coca Cola having it's own market in the gun industry.
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Bahirae Serugiusu
Vendetta Reactionary Force
501
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Posted - 2015.02.09 04:48:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong. I know the Caldari is bunch of Corperations, but wouldn't it still hinder the relationship between the two factions? I mean with all the intel they would be transferring with each other for the war effort, you would've thought not to give information to allies that are working with your enemies, Corperation or not they're still Caldari & they represent their people, if one Corperation manages to mess up a relationship between a good ally their must be some kinda rule in place for it to avoid anymore incidences, because to be honest I don't think the Caldari can hold their own against the Gallente, if they lose the Amarr they may lose the War Effort against their enemies.
Well actually in the lore (to my knowledge) the corporations that make up the Caldari State answer to their shareholders and not the people. And if I remember right the Caldari State (from lore) may not have as large a navy as the Gallente but have the newest and largest number of Battleships so they can take on the Gallente Navy. And if I am reading right the Iskukone Corporation sort of trades with everyone instead of being all for the State so a Ishukone SMG is entirely possible.
The State will always survive.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
Y.A.M.A.H
431
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Posted - 2015.02.09 05:06:00 -
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ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong. I know the Caldari is bunch of Corperations, but wouldn't it still hinder the relationship between the two factions? I mean with all the intel they would be transferring with each other for the war effort, you would've thought not to give information to allies that are working with your enemies, Corperation or not they're still Caldari & they represent their people, if one Corperation manages to mess up a relationship between a good ally their must be some kinda rule in place for it to avoid anymore incidences, because to be honest I don't think the Caldari can hold their own against the Gallente, if they lose the Amarr they may lose the War Effort against their enemies.
EVE is a world of corporations, the government factions don't really apply.
Death is a serious business. So is running a shoddy, half-baked game company.
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Billi Gene
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Posted - 2015.02.09 05:48:00 -
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didnt the russians invent the assault rifle? and if so how dare the americans and british make them as well......
new eden: why should pirate factions be the only ones to adopt new tech?.. oh wait ... they don't.
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2126
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Posted - 2015.02.09 05:52:00 -
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The caldari are divided into three groups: "practicals" who will sell to anyone without a care for the long term (they care little about ethics and often have ties to organized crime", "liberals" who are interested in the long term when it comes to profits and sales, and "patriots" corporations who desire to see a strong caldari state so that they can't be trampled on by other nations.
Ishukone corporation are part of the liberals, they've spent a long time fostering relationships with the minmatar (and smgs are really easy to produce for the industrialist caldari).
Kaalakiota, Wiyrkomi and Lai-Dai are all patriot corporations, Kaalakiota in particular is one of the strongest mega corps... It is opposed primarily by the nearly-as-powerful Ishukone.
Liberals are the most pro-concord.
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LUGMOS
Corrosive Synergy
1982
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Posted - 2015.02.09 05:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I'm surprised you don't have a problem with the Quafe corporation (Gallente) making Caldari and Amarr items. A company that is known mainly for its soft drink. It's like Coca Cola having it's own market in the gun industry.
Not only that, they actually had a diplomatic mission.
Amarrian leaders would not talk to Gallente leaders... Unless they were with Quafe. Look it up, 100% legit.
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JIMvc2
Consolidated Dust
652
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Posted - 2015.02.09 05:59:00 -
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Buwaro Draemon wrote:The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong.
What about the Cerodrone Corporation. Misspelled
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2128
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Posted - 2015.02.09 06:01:00 -
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LUGMOS wrote:
Why do the Minmatar get a bonus to Nova Knives?
Why are Nova Knives Caldanese?
Nova knives are caldari because of Achuran Tradition and the fun history of the Raata empire before the Ishuk-Raata agreements were signed.
The minmatar use them because of their own tribal traditions and because there's little that desperation wouldn't push them to do - when they attacked the amarr and realised they couldn't free all their brothers and sisters there, they started killing the ones they couldn't save, because death is better than enslavement. They'll throw the whole damn kitchen sink at you, and nova knives are cheap to manufacture or purchase.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
2128
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Posted - 2015.02.09 06:46:00 -
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JIMvc2 wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:The Caldari has no central government per say. The top Caldari Corporations control the whole race. But each Corp has its own tules and laws.
The Ishukone Corp CEO just happened to be friends with a Minmatar. And that's how you got the Ishukone SMG.
That's what I read long time ago so I may have gotten things wrong. What about the Cerodrone Corporation. Misspelled
CreoDron are a gallente corp, they make drones primarily. They do not have the same production base that Ishukone does, Ishukone is known to sell things almost at cost to the minmatar.
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The Infected One
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1430
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Posted - 2015.02.09 06:54:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I'm surprised you don't have a problem with the Quafe corporation (Gallente) making Caldari and Amarr items. A company that is known mainly for its soft drink. It's like Coca Cola having it's own market in the gun industry.
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