RayRay James
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
987
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Posted - 2015.02.09 18:57:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:If a vet cant Reach 150 WP, he totally deserves to be rewarded with 0 SP, ambush or not. Because it means that that vet wasnt even trying at all. Period. Explain to me why. Sequal's Back wrote:Pagl1u M wrote:If a vet cant Reach 150 WP, he totally deserves to be rewarded with 0 SP, ambush or not. Because it means that that vet wasnt even trying at all. Period. I totally agree with you. Again, explain to me why. Adipem Nothi wrote:
Would've done exactly the same thing. Insufficient incentive to play an unplayable match. Suggestion:
Oops! Something went wrong with Scotty the Matchmaking AI. Your odds of successfully navigating the upcoming stomp are approximately 3,720:1. Stompees will be paid end-of-match compensation of 3000 SP, 100 Barge Components. and 300k Isk (plus face value of all gear destroyed). Do you wish to deploy?
That'd make too much sense, Adipem. You know what would make even more sense then that? Tieracide, maybe meta-level limited match setups, an actual match-maker... or just removing the stupid WP minimum altogether. The hilarious part here is that I just see people saying, "Herp derp if you can't hit 150 WP you deserve 0" but no-one seems to be explaining -WHY-. I keep asking why, I keep asking the functionality, but no-one has a good answer - hell they don't have any answers, just the same trolling non-sense of, "git gud", like they've -never- had a bad match where they just got annihilated. And I -refuse- to stop arguing against it BECAUSE it doesn't have a justifiable explanation. I won't stop until someone can come in here and say, "This is why: -insert justifiable, reasonable argument as to why a player should not just stop playing because they'd be wasting their time otherwise-". What freaggin incentive do I have to even stay in the match if by 25 clones I haven't hit the minimum -already-? Why should I stay at all, if looking at the team-setups I see a whole squad of 'x' corporation that I know will be running high-end gear?
You keep asking for why? Here's my opinion
The 150 WP minimum is for Vets only. I'm unaware of what the level is the constituted a vet, but I've heard it range anywhere from 10 mil SP to 30 Mil SP.
For the sake of argument, let's split that number and call it 20 Mil SP
With 20 mil sp, you have been playing for a while. You understand the game mechanics, how weapons affect suits (and vice versa) you understand the roles of suits, the differences in races and have played more than enough matches to take that knowledge and apply it appropriately.
With the combination of that knowledge and experience, and as a vet, you have to TRY and not get 150 WP if you're actively playing. Kills, Assists, Links, reps, hives, needles, scans, hacking (no ambush obviously), etc all give you the ability to get anywhere from +5 SP (killing enemy equipment) to +100 SP (Hacking) even +150 if you manage to kill a tank.
With all of the options afforded to you to get SP, 150 is not a tough barrier to crack. Since this was implemented, I have in ONE MATCH not hit the 150 WP and that was because the match was nearly over before I joined the fight. I did still manage to get 125 WP.
I got isk, I got not skill points, so i pulled up my big boy pants and deployed into another match.
That is the answer to "Why?"
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RayRay James
State of Purgatory
General Tso's Alliance
987
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Posted - 2015.02.09 21:29:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:RayRay James wrote:
You keep asking for why? Here's my opinion
The 150 WP minimum is for Vets only. I'm unaware of what the level is the constituted a vet, but I've heard it range anywhere from 10 mil SP to 30 Mil SP.
For the sake of argument, let's split that number and call it 20 Mil SP
With 20 mil sp, you have been playing for a while. You understand the game mechanics, how weapons affect suits (and vice versa) you understand the roles of suits, the differences in races and have played more than enough matches to take that knowledge and apply it appropriately.
With the combination of that knowledge and experience, and as a vet, you have to TRY and not get 150 WP if you're actively playing. Kills, Assists, Links, reps, hives, needles, scans, hacking (no ambush obviously), etc all give you the ability to get anywhere from +5 SP (killing enemy equipment) to +100 SP (Hacking) even +150 if you manage to kill a tank.
With all of the options afforded to you to get SP, 150 is not a tough barrier to crack. Since this was implemented, I have in ONE MATCH not hit the 150 WP and that was because the match was nearly over before I joined the fight. I did still manage to get 125 WP.
I got isk, I got not skill points, so i pulled up my big boy pants and deployed into another match.
That is the answer to "Why?"
Copy and paste that entire text, attach it in an e-mail, and send it to the 13 players on the enemy team who got screwed over in this video that I posted. You telling me 13 people didn't put forth the effort? You telling me that their entire team only killing -EIGHT PEOPLE- they'd manage to get the assists and necessary warpoints, in five minutes, it should be fair that the veterans on their team basically just wasted their time?
My assumption would be that those people probably aren't above the 'veteran' cutoff and it therefore didn't matter.
If they ARE above the 'veteran' cutoff, then yes, I concur they didn't do enough or got steamrolled by game mechanics.
EDIT: Also, stop saying they wasted their time. While not ideal, they did at least get some isk to compensate for their time. |