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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.02.08 07:48:00 -
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Why do medium frames progress with 2 slots per tier and everything else progress with 1? What makes them so special to deserve that?
My Basic medium frames, logis & Commandos
Racial tanks
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.02.08 09:08:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:"Because **** you that's why." - CCP
No really, people shouldn't even be using basic frames.
I did not say basic frames anywhere in the OP.
My Basic medium frames, logis & Commandos
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.02.08 21:51:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:They must have SOMETHING of value, right? Since they're only frames without specifications, the manufacturers are able to play around with the suits and improve on them thanks to having more room to work with (since the specification take up some to work with bonuses and role enhancers).
*Facepalm* like I said earlier, I didn't say basic medium frames. I said medium frames and that category includes all medium frames (basic, assault, & logistics).
Foo Fighting wrote:It's because they are supposed to be flexible / adaptable. Think of the sentinel, commando and scout as specialist suits, the Sentinel and commando have built in hp modules and the scout has built in ewar mods. Medium don't have built in advantages so you need the slots.
What makes medium frames flexible and adaptable is that they start off with more slots than everything else, have equipments slot(s), speed/stamina, and good regen stats. They don't need to progress 2 slots per tier on top of that to make the module gap greater.
My Basic medium frames, logis & Commandos
Racial tanks
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.02.08 23:04:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Medium Frames have higher slot layouts, and because of their higher slot layouts they get 2 extra slots per tier. If we were to apply the same progression to other frames than we'd have a disaster where the STD and ADV tiers of those suits are terrible.
Basically, what if we gave the STD MinScout a 1/1 layout and the ADV a 2/2? Or the STD Gal/Amarr Scouts a 0/2 layout at STD with a 1/3 at ADV?
Unless you want to nerf the STD and ADV variants, this current progression system will remain.
Currently they start off with more slots than everything; giving them 2 slots per tier is unnecessary. If the same 1 module per tier progression was adopted for them STD medium frames would be unaffected and ADV would still have higher slots than everything else, as well as proto.
My Basic medium frames, logis & Assaults
Racial tanks
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The-Errorist
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Posted - 2015.02.09 01:09:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:The-Errorist wrote:Atiim wrote:Medium Frames have higher slot layouts, and because of their higher slot layouts they get 2 extra slots per tier. If we were to apply the same progression to other frames than we'd have a disaster where the STD and ADV tiers of those suits are terrible.
Basically, what if we gave the STD MinScout a 1/1 layout and the ADV a 2/2? Or the STD Gal/Amarr Scouts a 0/2 layout at STD with a 1/3 at ADV?
Unless you want to nerf the STD and ADV variants, this current progression system will remain. Currently they start off with more slots than everything; giving them 2 slots per tier is unnecessary. If the same 1 module per tier progression was adopted for them STD medium frames would be unaffected and ADV would still have higher slots than everything else, as well as proto. Because that is how they were designed. However, I think that the assaults and logis should have less slots than the basic medium frames, and increased regen/HP stats/ewar or whatnot. The basic medium frames should be the jack of all trades. The rest should be specialization.
Designs can change
In my spreadsheet, I gave basic medium frames 1 less slot and 1 more equipment slot. They already have higher base armor repair and I would like them to have a higher scan radius and shield recharge rates. I don't think assaults and logis should have less slots than basic mediums.
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