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E-Rock
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:30:00 -
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I was talking with one of my fellow corp mates, Leadfoot10, and we were talking about the kinds of players we like to play the game with. While many players on this game will boast a high KDR as a barometer to measure that they are not "scrubs", many of them have a very low Win/Lose ratio. As Leadfoot10 and myself find that KDR can mean absolutely nothing as a stat he proposed that KDR x2 + W/L Ratio. for example a 1.50 KDR and a 2.50 W/L would be a 5.50 Efficiency Rating. With this in mind I agree with Leadfoot10 and would say that a player with a 5.0 or greater is a good player that you would want to have on your team. Thoughts?
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-Founder of CKC and UCKC
-Molon Labe
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Mary Sedillo
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
327
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:35:00 -
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E-Rock wrote:I was talking with one of my fellow corp mates, Leadfoot10, and we were talking about the kinds of players we like to play the game with. While many players on this game will boast a high KDR as a barometer to measure that they are not "scrubs", many of them have a very low Win/Lose ratio. As Leadfoot10 and myself find that KDR can mean absolutely nothing as a stat he proposed that KDR x2 + W/L Ratio. for example a 1.50 KDR and a 2.50 W/L would be a 5.50 Efficiency Rating. With this in mind I agree with Leadfoot10 and would say that a player with a 5.0 or greater is a good player that you would want to have on your team. Thoughts?
I think you should find your own twinkie and pursue that for your happiness and don't worry about what other's gauge as the one almighty 'Twinkie'. As a vehicle operator, I enjoy taking a look at KDR from time to time, but my twinkie would have to be good fights, win or lose, where I kill many suits and tanks of the enemy and duel other great tanks. |
E-Rock
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
53
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:42:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:E-Rock wrote:I was talking with one of my fellow corp mates, Leadfoot10, and we were talking about the kinds of players we like to play the game with. While many players on this game will boast a high KDR as a barometer to measure that they are not "scrubs", many of them have a very low Win/Lose ratio. As Leadfoot10 and myself find that KDR can mean absolutely nothing as a stat he proposed that KDR x2 + W/L Ratio. for example a 1.50 KDR and a 2.50 W/L would be a 5.50 Efficiency Rating. With this in mind I agree with Leadfoot10 and would say that a player with a 5.0 or greater is a good player that you would want to have on your team. Thoughts? I think you should find your own twinkie and pursue that for your happiness and don't worry about what other's gauge as the one almighty 'Twinkie'. As a vehicle operator, I enjoy taking a look at KDR from time to time, but my twinkie would have to be good fights, win or lose, where I kill many suits and tanks of the enemy and duel other great tanks.
I'm talking about having a something to measure others by.
The Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇǵùѵ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½
-Founder of CKC and UCKC
-Molon Labe
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y General Tso's Alliance
461
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:43:00 -
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My thoughts are actually a penny a piece ~(._.~)
G.L.O.R.Y Soldier,
I'm that Amarr heavy you warn your team about <3
-Heavy/Logi/Assault/Scout-
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Mary Sedillo
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
329
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Posted - 2015.02.06 08:51:00 -
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E-Rock wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:E-Rock wrote:I was talking with one of my fellow corp mates, Leadfoot10, and we were talking about the kinds of players we like to play the game with. While many players on this game will boast a high KDR as a barometer to measure that they are not "scrubs", many of them have a very low Win/Lose ratio. As Leadfoot10 and myself find that KDR can mean absolutely nothing as a stat he proposed that KDR x2 + W/L Ratio. for example a 1.50 KDR and a 2.50 W/L would be a 5.50 Efficiency Rating. With this in mind I agree with Leadfoot10 and would say that a player with a 5.0 or greater is a good player that you would want to have on your team. Thoughts? I think you should find your own twinkie and pursue that for your happiness and don't worry about what other's gauge as the one almighty 'Twinkie'. As a vehicle operator, I enjoy taking a look at KDR from time to time, but my twinkie would have to be good fights, win or lose, where I kill many suits and tanks of the enemy and duel other great tanks. I'm talking about having a something to measure others by.
Well -- DUST offers a TON of different roles to fill. You would need to have different categories for each suit/role.
You would not compare a Tank Operator versus a Dropship Pilot, Infantry versus Vehicles, a hacker scout versus a stand and deliver heavy.
Win-to-Loss in Pubs would be tough one, especially with the random competence levels found in blueberries. |
E-Rock
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
54
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Posted - 2015.02.06 09:10:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:E-Rock wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:E-Rock wrote:I was talking with one of my fellow corp mates, Leadfoot10, and we were talking about the kinds of players we like to play the game with. While many players on this game will boast a high KDR as a barometer to measure that they are not "scrubs", many of them have a very low Win/Lose ratio. As Leadfoot10 and myself find that KDR can mean absolutely nothing as a stat he proposed that KDR x2 + W/L Ratio. for example a 1.50 KDR and a 2.50 W/L would be a 5.50 Efficiency Rating. With this in mind I agree with Leadfoot10 and would say that a player with a 5.0 or greater is a good player that you would want to have on your team. Thoughts? I think you should find your own twinkie and pursue that for your happiness and don't worry about what other's gauge as the one almighty 'Twinkie'. As a vehicle operator, I enjoy taking a look at KDR from time to time, but my twinkie would have to be good fights, win or lose, where I kill many suits and tanks of the enemy and duel other great tanks. I'm talking about having a something to measure others by. Well -- DUST offers a TON of different roles to fill. You would need to have different categories for each suit/role. You would not compare a Tank Operator versus a Dropship Pilot, Infantry versus Vehicles, a hacker scout versus a stand and deliver heavy. Win-to-Loss in Pubs would be tough one, especially with the random competence levels found in blueberries.
with the system and arithmetic that I talked about, it helps to use this. lol. what's your eff. rating, Mary?
The Japanese players call "hate mail", "fan mail".pÇǵùѵ£¼F¬PsñºS+êsñ½
-Founder of CKC and UCKC
-Molon Labe
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Mary Sedillo
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
330
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Posted - 2015.02.06 09:15:00 -
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I am doing pretty solid -- run dominations/skirms mostly. Do alright with a balanced team. My performance is on-par with what a vehicle operator needs to do, but effectiveness varies greatly from map to map and situation to situation. I can usually get a good body count by the end of the match and push points hard.
So I would consider my rating pretty solid. Good KDR mixed with solid, but lower, W-t-L ratio and I am okay by that bar, but its too linear for a game such as DUST imho.
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Mary Sedillo
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
330
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Posted - 2015.02.06 09:18:00 -
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As a vehicle operator though with solid builds, good AV can still do well at suppressing me. Without infantry to counter them, I am spending time evading picking kills off from the fringe of the group, or surprise blitz-and-runs, which are enjoyable but not effective without infantry to fill the vacuum. |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1801
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Posted - 2015.02.06 09:21:00 -
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I think anything that gives a bar to be set or some form of proper measurement would not only allow for a more accurate system for team pairing, but also a way for players to look for ways to improve.
More stats are always a good thing.
This is pretty straightforward and easy to calculate.
I wish you could see these things when you pull up player info on people from their screen. As of right now I can see their game tags and their PSN ID.
Useful.
A stat like this could possibly make that screen worth being there.
Hearing the lamentations of Amarr women since 92'.
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Skotty Hellm
Valor Company Freedom Fighters
6
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Posted - 2015.02.06 10:11:00 -
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So my Alts 6.59 Kdr x2=13.18 adding My Mediocre WinPct of 0.91, Gives an Efficiency of 14.09. So.....? Is this still indicative of Success, and/or Efficiency? Curious... |
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E-Rock
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
55
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Posted - 2015.02.06 10:18:00 -
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Skotty Hellm wrote:So my Alts 6.59 Kdr x2=13.18 adding My Mediocre WinPct of 0.91, Gives an Efficiency of 14.09. So.....? Is this still indicative of Success, and/or Efficiency? Curious...
lifetime matches divided by Wp to be worked in as well?
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-Founder of CKC and UCKC
-Molon Labe
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