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Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 811	Posted - 2015.02.06 09:48:00 - [31] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: I'm not convinced the Dust team sees anything wrong with remotes. Just because you're crying about them doesn't make them OP or some sort of win button. RE's are a leveller and very helpful when some idiot tryhard corp is stomping all the newbs on your side. In fact I would wager that more than a few callow blues have ended up sticking with the game after seeing the platoon of heavies who've just shot them to bits for 5 minutes get blown to pieces by a skilled RE operator. Saying RE's are OP is like saying HMG's are OP - both weapons working as intended. Both come with risks... Sorry I believe you misread, I have not said they are OP or a win button. Nor do you see me crying. If you think RE's are working as intended you are sorely mistaken. As stated they are not meant to be frizbees, nor abused in the manner they currently are by more than a few players. Yes the tiny delay is a risk, but it is a small one. What do you mean by "abused"? What you mean is that they are killing you every so often... They also kill me every so often. I feel rage when it happens. I don't call for them to be nerfed, banned, made unusable... just like I don't care that the HMG mows down everyone in it's path. It makes perfect sense to me that each weapon is deadly in certain situations. You only get 2 or 3 remotes per suit so what's the big deal? If people are hanging around hives and spamming remotes and you've seen it - then you need to find a way to take them down. I do not mind getting killed by anything. The main problem is that they can be thrown so far. My suggestion (as always open to debate and opinions) was to stop those who spam them constantly. Making them not thow-able or restocked neither makes them unusable, but more situational (as with any suit/weapon/vehcile). Also, I normally try to, but as I solo mostly, sometimes that is just hard to do. Vote Dust for PS4
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 811	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:00:00 - [32] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Anything can be easy if done right but more than often I have detonated remotes on heavies and they dont die or dont take damage. The delay is a fair trade off and I cant fault it. I use remotes in another way, I simply place them on walls and have enemies kill themselves. But seriously I should stop trying to convince you without hearing you out. How do you think remotes should work? In 1 of 2 ways Either they cannot be thrown like frizbees or; They cannot be restocked without changing suits at a supply depot The frisbee thing is more like an exploit as the jumping and shooting with a shotgun. I believe you need to jump to throw far. I dont throw remotes like frisbees because I use a controller and not a mouse so I can be so accurate. I think its just an option. If we can run at the speed of a horse we should be able to throw remotes far The remote explosive is a weapon, it is just put in an equipment slot, its like saying that we should not be able to restock grenades from hives either. I think classifying remotes as the explosives that they are by putting them in the grenade slot solves the problem I think Flux grenades and remote explosives swapping places solves the issue But people don't need to run super fast, just jump in any direction. If there was a need to run at full seed then that would cause inaccuracy thus making it viable and my arguments void. Vote Dust for PS4
al nize mk2 No Skillz inc. 316	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:01:00 - [33] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: I do not mind getting killed by anything. The main problem is that they can be thrown so far. My suggestion (as always open to debate and opinions) was to stop those who spam them constantly. Making them not thow-able or restocked neither makes them unusable, but more situational (as with any suit/weapon/vehcile). Also, I normally try to, but as I solo mostly, sometimes that is just hard to do. When you say "spam them constantly" I assume you mean that you've seen these mercs hanging around by hives to replenish and staying put. How hard is it to take these guys out?? Surely just shooting them is the answer no? You can't throw RE's far enough to outrange any kind of rifle or even most sidearms. The notion that you can throw them "like frisbees" is frivolous. You can't. They drop to the ground almost immediately. Frisbees glide through the air for ages and ages then slowly descend to a stop. Completely different - and actually not a bad idea for a new weapon (or piece of equipment that replenishes like a weapon) GÇ£All that I know most surely about morality and obligations I owe to football.GÇ¥
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 310	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:07:00 - [34] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Anything can be easy if done right but more than often I have detonated remotes on heavies and they dont die or dont take damage. The delay is a fair trade off and I cant fault it. I use remotes in another way, I simply place them on walls and have enemies kill themselves. But seriously I should stop trying to convince you without hearing you out. How do you think remotes should work? In 1 of 2 ways Either they cannot be thrown like frizbees or; They cannot be restocked without changing suits at a supply depot The frisbee thing is more like an exploit as the jumping and shooting with a shotgun. I believe you need to jump to throw far. I dont throw remotes like frisbees because I use a controller and not a mouse so I can be so accurate. I think its just an option. If we can run at the speed of a horse we should be able to throw remotes far The remote explosive is a weapon, it is just put in an equipment slot, its like saying that we should not be able to restock grenades from hives either. I think classifying remotes as the explosives that they are by putting them in the grenade slot solves the problem I think Flux grenades and remote explosives swapping places solves the issue But people don't need to run super fast, just jump in any direction. If there was a need to run at full seed then that would cause inaccuracy thus making it viable and my arguments void. I dont understand you but my point is this , with 3 complex kin cats on a min scout, the attainable sprint speed in real world numbers is godly ISK Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 813	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:13:00 - [35] - Quote al nize mk2 wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: I do not mind getting killed by anything. The main problem is that they can be thrown so far. My suggestion (as always open to debate and opinions) was to stop those who spam them constantly. Making them not thow-able or restocked neither makes them unusable, but more situational (as with any suit/weapon/vehcile). Also, I normally try to, but as I solo mostly, sometimes that is just hard to do. When you say "spam them constantly" I assume you mean that you've seen these mercs hanging around by hives to replenish and staying put. How hard is it to take these guys out?? Surely just shooting them is the answer no? You can't throw RE's far enough to outrange any kind of rifle or even most sidearms. The notion that you can throw them "like frisbees" is frivolous. You can't. They drop to the ground almost immediately. Frisbees glide through the air for ages and ages then slowly descend to a stop. Completely different - and actually not a bad idea for a new weapon (or piece of equipment that replenishes like a weapon) That or they carry hives and do the same thing elsewhere, but yes sometimes if they are too high up or hiding while throwing them, they can be a pain to deal with. Thing is, is once one person sees them at it others join in, the ones you kill go back and carry on. To be honest Ain't nobody got time fo dat. You can throw them quite far, not to the range of rifles admittedly, but far enough. I once watched one float the whole lengh of the city once (yes I was amused so I followed it). It was never detonated and assumed it was a one off, not seen it happen in such extremeties since. Oh I'm easily amused btw xD Vote Dust for PS4
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 310	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:16:00 - [36] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: I do not mind getting killed by anything. The main problem is that they can be thrown so far. My suggestion (as always open to debate and opinions) was to stop those who spam them constantly. Making them not thow-able or restocked neither makes them unusable, but more situational (as with any suit/weapon/vehcile). Also, I normally try to, but as I solo mostly, sometimes that is just hard to do. When you say "spam them constantly" I assume you mean that you've seen these mercs hanging around by hives to replenish and staying put. How hard is it to take these guys out?? Surely just shooting them is the answer no? You can't throw RE's far enough to outrange any kind of rifle or even most sidearms. The notion that you can throw them "like frisbees" is frivolous. You can't. They drop to the ground almost immediately. Frisbees glide through the air for ages and ages then slowly descend to a stop. Completely different - and actually not a bad idea for a new weapon (or piece of equipment that replenishes like a weapon) That or they carry hives and do the same thing elsewhere, but yes sometimes if they are too high up or hiding while throwing them, they can be a pain to deal with. Thing is, is once one person sees them at it others join in, the ones you kill go back and carry on. To be honest Ain't nobody got time fo dat. You can throw them quite far, not to the range of rifles admittedly, but far enough. I once watched one float the whole lengh of the city once (yes I was amused so I followed it). It was never detonated and assumed it was a one off, not seen it happen in such extremeties since. Oh I'm easily amused btw xD Maybe its just a bug, and bugs are a plenty in dust. Remotes usually dont go that far. You can make a video to prove me wrong ISK Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 813	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:17:00 - [37] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: Timtron Victory wrote: Anything can be easy if done right but more than often I have detonated remotes on heavies and they dont die or dont take damage. The delay is a fair trade off and I cant fault it. I use remotes in another way, I simply place them on walls and have enemies kill themselves. But seriously I should stop trying to convince you without hearing you out. How do you think remotes should work? In 1 of 2 ways Either they cannot be thrown like frizbees or; They cannot be restocked without changing suits at a supply depot The frisbee thing is more like an exploit as the jumping and shooting with a shotgun. I believe you need to jump to throw far. I dont throw remotes like frisbees because I use a controller and not a mouse so I can be so accurate. I think its just an option. If we can run at the speed of a horse we should be able to throw remotes far The remote explosive is a weapon, it is just put in an equipment slot, its like saying that we should not be able to restock grenades from hives either. I think classifying remotes as the explosives that they are by putting them in the grenade slot solves the problem I think Flux grenades and remote explosives swapping places solves the issue But people don't need to run super fast, just jump in any direction. If there was a need to run at full seed then that would cause inaccuracy thus making it viable and my arguments void. I dont understand you but my point is this , with 3 complex kin cats on a min scout, the attainable sprint speed in real world numbers is godly To get it to be thrown further, you should have to attain a certain speed (its how I work it out when throwing nades), Once at optimal speed, if I make a turn over a certain degree angle my speed would be reduced, thus meaning the remote cannot be thrown as far. Vote Dust for PS4
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 816	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:20:00 - [38] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: al nize mk2 wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: I do not mind getting killed by anything. The main problem is that they can be thrown so far. My suggestion (as always open to debate and opinions) was to stop those who spam them constantly. Making them not thow-able or restocked neither makes them unusable, but more situational (as with any suit/weapon/vehcile). Also, I normally try to, but as I solo mostly, sometimes that is just hard to do. When you say "spam them constantly" I assume you mean that you've seen these mercs hanging around by hives to replenish and staying put. How hard is it to take these guys out?? Surely just shooting them is the answer no? You can't throw RE's far enough to outrange any kind of rifle or even most sidearms. The notion that you can throw them "like frisbees" is frivolous. You can't. They drop to the ground almost immediately. Frisbees glide through the air for ages and ages then slowly descend to a stop. Completely different - and actually not a bad idea for a new weapon (or piece of equipment that replenishes like a weapon) That or they carry hives and do the same thing elsewhere, but yes sometimes if they are too high up or hiding while throwing them, they can be a pain to deal with. Thing is, is once one person sees them at it others join in, the ones you kill go back and carry on. To be honest Ain't nobody got time fo dat. You can throw them quite far, not to the range of rifles admittedly, but far enough. I once watched one float the whole lengh of the city once (yes I was amused so I followed it). It was never detonated and assumed it was a one off, not seen it happen in such extremeties since. Oh I'm easily amused btw xD Maybe its just a bug, and bugs are a plenty in dust. Remotes usually dont go that far. You can make a video to prove me wrong Aye I assumed it was, we get more with each update xD Once I get my PC set up I will be making videos anyway. Still not got round to it after taking it for repairs and upgrades. My laptop is the next to go in -_- Vote Dust for PS4
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2515	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:20:00 - [39] - Quote I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* PSN Sil4ntChaozz/Protofits SilentChaozz
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 816	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:23:00 - [40] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Aye aye sir o-o7 Vote Dust for PS4

PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2515	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:28:00 - [41] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Aye aye sir o-o7 Also, i like remotes, a lot, but ive cut back because strafing isnt muscle memory yet and you dont usually need a remotes for one guy, thats what knives are for. Yeah its embarrassing ive been here since 1.4 and im just learning to strafe. -_- Better late then never! o7 Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* PSN Sil4ntChaozz/Protofits SilentChaozz
Timtron Victory Horizons' Edge 314	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:30:00 - [42] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Aye aye sir o-o7 Also, i like remotes, a lot, but ive cut back because strafing isnt muscle memory yet and you dont usually need a remotes for one guy, thats what knives are for. Yeah its embarrassing ive been here since 1.4 and im just learning to strafe. -_- Better late then never! o7 I met a strafing Caldari medium suit and simply placed three remotes around him and blew him up. Maybe it was you :P ISK Weekly Lottery Proud Christian Jesus Loves You
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 818	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:36:00 - [43] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Aye aye sir o-o7 Also, i like remotes, a lot, but ive cut back because strafing isnt muscle memory yet and you dont usually need a remotes for one guy, thats what knives are for. Yeah its embarrassing ive been here since 1.4 and im just learning to strafe. -_- Better late then never! o7 I don't mind them, I like the concept, but like everything else in the game players exploit and abuse everything they can :( I'm hopeless with knives lol, gave up long ago Don't worry about it. Back in Chrome I did some strafing lessons. We would sit in the redline and help them. Basically run a circle (left stick), the larger the circle you make the larger the strafe. Try to keep the circle in a forwards motion as you move faster than moving sideways.Try figure of 8s and keep yourself unpredictable in your movements Vote Dust for PS4
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2515	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:36:00 - [44] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Aye aye sir o-o7 Also, i like remotes, a lot, but ive cut back because strafing isnt muscle memory yet and you dont usually need a remotes for one guy, thats what knives are for. Yeah its embarrassing ive been here since 1.4 and im just learning to strafe. -_- Better late then never! o7 I met a strafing Caldari medium suit and simply placed three remotes around him and blew him up. Maybe it was you :P Im saying that i forget to strafe 100% of my gunfights lost come from Aim Assist Forget to strafe Aim Assist Was it a cal assault? Cause my cal assault hasn't died to remotes in a while. Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* PSN Sil4ntChaozz/Protofits SilentChaozz
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 818	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:37:00 - [45] - Quote Timtron Victory wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Yokal Bob wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I like how your crying but saying your not crying to the people that point out your crying. Always keep it professional. Aye aye sir o-o7 Also, i like remotes, a lot, but ive cut back because strafing isnt muscle memory yet and you dont usually need a remotes for one guy, thats what knives are for. Yeah its embarrassing ive been here since 1.4 and im just learning to strafe. -_- Better late then never! o7 I met a strafing Caldari medium suit and simply placed three remotes around him and blew him up. Maybe it was you :P Lol Vote Dust for PS4
PARKOUR PRACTIONER G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 2515	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:38:00 - [46] - Quote Ill be back my blood sugar is dropping. Recon is an Art Anything you can do a NINJA* can do better* PSN Sil4ntChaozz/Protofits SilentChaozz
Yokal Bob State of Purgatory General Tso's Alliance 819	Posted - 2015.02.06 10:42:00 - [47] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: Ill be back my blood sugar is dropping. Take care, I was supposed to be goin to bed lol, I know I know, its nearly dowtime 11am, but i was up till early hours playing Dust. Then i got distracted by the forums. Going to take this opportunity to hit the hay, gotta be up in 3 hours :( o7 Vote Dust for PS4
Atiim Titans of Phoenix 15486	Posted - 2015.02.06 12:59:00 - [48] - Quote robin williams' ghost wrote: Oh but practically infinite ohk weapons is logical? Lol. Problem is they're not infinite, Nanohives expire eventually. Though it should be noted that the Nova Knife is also an infinite ohk weapon. The 1st Matari Commando -HAND
John Psi Vacuum Cleaner. LLC Steel Balls Alliance 1243	Posted - 2015.02.06 13:03:00 - [49] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: They are being spammed like crazy by people with no balls. Gold. 10/10. Also, check my sig pls. Please support fair play!


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