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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2015.02.05 16:35:00 -
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So I finally logged all of my weapon assets before claiming the production from my lab since it doesn't tell you what you get.
This test is after putting around 50,000 components into the Warbarge to get it to Level 5 with the lab at Level 2.
Cost to claim: 103 Components (309 AUR if you are short on components)
What was produced?: 1 Standard AV Nade
Yep, one standard nade after investing over 150 days worth of components if you were to generate it with just the barge's factory at lvl 2. This kind of outcome after this kind of investment is unacceptable. The RNG for the lab needs to go. At the very least the loot tables have to be dramatically improved.
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Posted - 2015.02.05 21:36:00 -
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I really wish the lab worked like a factory in Star Wars Commander (sci-fi clash of clans). I pick what I want to make and the higher tier it is the more time it takes. Instead of forcing people to use components to claim allow them to use components to speed up the manufacturing. A higher level lab makes it take less time to make an item and/or allow you to queue more than more item to be built.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 03:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:This was so that new players can use it as well. Not everyone has skills to level 1 specialization in weapons.
Getting a guaranteed officer weapon every day, does seem quite OP. This was all explained in the original thread, as well as the lab that would allow you to convert a random officer weapon into a officer weapon you wanted.
Instead of RNG make the officer weapons cost more resources and time to make. Maybe an officer weapon takes X days to make etc. RNG is making me hate this game  .
Also, by the time someone can get to a lab with the time scale you have on the barge upgrades players will have some weapon up to proto. Getting a higher end weapon means that player can sell it and buy several standard items as well. With the sell back feature and the ability to send items to other players getting 1 standard weapon is a joke. I feel like I've wasted a lot of money at this point.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 04:39:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Think it'll be better when and if we have simple crafting. In which case the Experimental Lab can produce Weapon Components or something and then we select what power level of gear to craft with adjusted amounts based on meta level or something. I don't need or want a free ride on a RNG train.
Just an idea though. We are on the same page here.
I would much prefer something like this or the lab be where crafting occurs and the level of the lab somehow affects how efficiently you craft items. I want to determine what I make at the end of the day. I'm willing to have to provide resources equivalent to what I'm making.
ADV Weapon(s) + X Resources + Y Time = Proto
Proto Weapon(s) + X Resources + Y Time = Experimental
Experimental Weapons(s) + X Resources + Y Time = Officer
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Posted - 2015.02.06 07:08:00 -
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Regis Blackbird wrote:
The Experimental Factory is capped at x1/day regardless of meta, right?
(Or is it x2.... I don't have it yet)
x1 apparently with better gear more likely the higher level lab you go.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 13:18:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2612439#post2612439
CCP Frame wrote:
3)Community Feedback Response:
The Warbarge Experimental Laboratory had wrong parameters in the component claim function. We, however, are using the opportunity to change how it works, based on community feedback. The Laboratory will now only create Experimental and Officer Gear, but they will still be claimed for components. You will get random Gear, but as you may know, we also have on our roadmap the ideas of simple crafting to convert them to items you crave or simply trading with players.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 16:50:00 -
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It looks like the changes are live on the server. I have reports of people generating officer suits from the lab.
I almost wonder if a middle ground where the lab makes only experimental items would be better. (Leave officer weapons and suits to the EOM drops, boxes, etc.)
I could see with crafting be able to turn experimental weapons into officer weapons though.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 17:23:00 -
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Yep, looks like ended up with an officer HMG (Alex flavor).
Thinking this might be too good now.....
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Posted - 2015.02.06 17:35:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:I thought it was supposed to make experimental weapons and not officer weapons? I would say generating officer weapons is a little too much, those should remain as rare drops from battles imo.
With the pay to generate more weapons mechanics... is it too far into pay to win at this point? Are experimental weapons up on the market for AUR yet?
Experimental weapons will only be available through the lab as far as I know. I'm wondering about the officer gear as well.
Here is the current upgrade attributes for the lab:
Level ** Bonus Per Day ** Capacity
0 ** 1 ** 2
1 ** 2 ** 4
2 ** 3 ** 6
3 ** 4 ** 8
4 ** 5 ** 10
5 ** 6 ** 12
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Posted - 2015.02.07 22:29:00 -
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Well, I can confirm that the lab makes officer suits. It made a Frame Ck0 suit today.
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Posted - 2015.02.08 01:12:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Yep, looks like ended up with an officer HMG (Alex flavor).
Thinking this might be too good now..... What is the component cost to claim?
198 components per item to claim.
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Posted - 2015.02.08 18:33:00 -
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I claim my three things this morning. 3 Alldin forge guns.
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Posted - 2015.02.08 22:08:00 -
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Azrael Aranis wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Experimental weapons will only be available through the lab as far as I know. I'm wondering about the officer gear as well.
I got an experimental mass driver as EoM salvage the other day, so its not just from the lab. Don't suppose it will make much of a difference though. That should not happen, will look into it. if the experimental weapon is destroyed in battle, does it get put in oem salvage for the other side?
That would explain it being in EOM salvage actually.
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