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DJINN Jecture wrote:

el OPERATOR wrote:

Haven't read the entire thread and probably commented proPS4 already, I usually do with threads like this.

Quick note though about PC vs PS4-

The PS4 is a standardized platform whose hardware mostly is identical between different users. This means players play amongst themselves with few to no hardware-based advantages . That newest overclocked whatever that comes to market every 3 weeks has NO bearing on the competition that occurs within PS4s and their network of players.

I personally got OUT of PC gaming years ago because the whole chasing the newest doodad to hit the PC market just to stay competitive at the same level got old, quick. I cannot describe how...liberating it was to fire up my first PS2 or my Xbox, open a game with multiplayer and then play without glaring imbalances from different hardware OR w/e the FOTW hax that were out being all over those games. Win, lose or draw the games that were played were played on skill and skill alone as much as reasonably possible.

This something that cannot be ignored: PS2, BF4, BF3, CoD etc do NOT share a fundamental concept with DUST and that is the concept of ownership. We spend weeks or months progressing, earning and spending SP and ISK to outfit ourselves and finally PC for districts. BF et al. are PvP yes, but the matches are just for EoM stats and once the battle is over it doesn't what happened there. New Eden is not like this, outside of pubs, who wins and who loses matters overall because it affects that possession element. There will be nothing worse in the world of gaming than to have a mission-critical PC match (for example) go to **** because (since its on PC) players are piping in those ddos' and all their scripthax from their uber-modded PCs.

Seriously, if the price of stability and worthwhile gaming is just $400 , done and done. Game Over.

If you want take a look harder at BF3 on PS3 and lag switching, modded controllers etc, it is not just the PC world that suffers from this kind of garbage gameplay but PS3s and XBoxes as well. In fact given that CCP employs anti-cheat coding I would guess that the kind of stuff you are suggesting would be rather limited and likely result in people DCing rather than continue due to whatever hack they have going on.

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el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 787	Posted - 2015.02.05 19:18:00 - [1] - Quote Signed, +1 Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 942	Posted - 2015.03.26 17:57:00 - [2] - Quote Haven't read the entire thread and probably commented proPS4 already, I usually do with threads like this. Quick note though about PC vs PS4- The PS4 is a standardized platform whose hardware mostly is identical between different users. This means players play amongst themselves with few to no hardware-based advantages . That newest overclocked whatever that comes to market every 3 weeks has NO bearing on the competition that occurs within PS4s and their network of players. I personally got OUT of PC gaming years ago because the whole chasing the newest doodad to hit the PC market just to stay competitive at the same level got old, quick. I cannot describe how...liberating it was to fire up my first PS2 or my Xbox, open a game with multiplayer and then play without glaring imbalances from different hardware OR w/e the FOTW hax that were out being all over those games. Win, lose or draw the games that were played were played on skill and skill alone as much as reasonably possible. This something that cannot be ignored: PS2, BF4, BF3, CoD etc do NOT share a fundamental concept with DUST and that is the concept of ownership. We spend weeks or months progressing, earning and spending SP and ISK to outfit ourselves and finally PC for districts. BF et al. are PvP yes, but the matches are just for EoM stats and once the battle is over it doesn't what happened there. New Eden is not like this, outside of pubs, who wins and who loses matters overall because it affects that possession element. There will be nothing worse in the world of gaming than to have a mission-critical PC match (for example) go to **** because (since its on PC) players are piping in those ddos' and all their scripthax from their uber-modded PCs. Seriously, if the price of stability and worthwhile gaming is just $400 , done and done. Game Over. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.
el OPERATOR Capital Acquisitions LLC Bad Intention 943	Posted - 2015.03.26 20:28:00 - [3] - Quote DJINN Jecture wrote: el OPERATOR wrote: Haven't read the entire thread and probably commented proPS4 already, I usually do with threads like this. Quick note though about PC vs PS4- The PS4 is a standardized platform whose hardware mostly is identical between different users. This means players play amongst themselves with few to no hardware-based advantages . That newest overclocked whatever that comes to market every 3 weeks has NO bearing on the competition that occurs within PS4s and their network of players. I personally got OUT of PC gaming years ago because the whole chasing the newest doodad to hit the PC market just to stay competitive at the same level got old, quick. I cannot describe how...liberating it was to fire up my first PS2 or my Xbox, open a game with multiplayer and then play without glaring imbalances from different hardware OR w/e the FOTW hax that were out being all over those games. Win, lose or draw the games that were played were played on skill and skill alone as much as reasonably possible. This something that cannot be ignored: PS2, BF4, BF3, CoD etc do NOT share a fundamental concept with DUST and that is the concept of ownership. We spend weeks or months progressing, earning and spending SP and ISK to outfit ourselves and finally PC for districts. BF et al. are PvP yes, but the matches are just for EoM stats and once the battle is over it doesn't what happened there. New Eden is not like this, outside of pubs, who wins and who loses matters overall because it affects that possession element. There will be nothing worse in the world of gaming than to have a mission-critical PC match (for example) go to **** because (since its on PC) players are piping in those ddos' and all their scripthax from their uber-modded PCs. Seriously, if the price of stability and worthwhile gaming is just $400 , done and done. Game Over. If you want take a look harder at BF3 on PS3 and lag switching, modded controllers etc, it is not just the PC world that suffers from this kind of garbage gameplay but PS3s and XBoxes as well. In fact given that CCP employs anti-cheat coding I would guess that the kind of stuff you are suggesting would be rather limited and likely result in people DCing rather than continue due to whatever hack they have going on. There really isn't an "etc" after lag switches or turbo controllers. DDOS could count but since this console plays through Sony's network there's an extra layer of objective protection from that. Does/can it happen? Sure. But if/when it does there're considerably more alarmbells and punitive elements in place to correct for it. Compared to not just controller mods but hardware mods AND software mods (wallhacks, aimbots etc) that are RAMPANT in online PC gaming. Between the two its a no-contest and a no-brainer that closed console networks and standarized hardware is the better forum for this. BTW: That "Chicken Little" reference is to an old childrens story about a chicken (Chicken Little) who got hit on the head by a falling branch or something but thought it was tye sky falling so he ran around creating a panic about the sky falling. SPOILER ALERT- Wait, I don't remember the ending, so no spoiler. Crisis Averted. Open-Beta Vet. Drunk Night Tree Burner. This is my Main and Original. DUST514 is WARFARE, not WAR-FAIR.