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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 19:43:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:I couldn't care any less about legion really and with all the new developments in dust, i think the smart move would be to start work on moving dust to the ps4 where it can grow even if it takes a while, even if it means noone can play for a year or more, at least the game will be on a platform where it can grow properly. Or at least begin work on a ps4 move within the next year maybe. If the game is running on the crummy ps3 specs we have then imagine how great it could be on the ps4. ps4's in about 2 years will also be pretty damn cheap, they already are really as it is now. I play all the next gen games and dust still offers a lot of unique things even though the next gen games have better graphics and higher player counts. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust This link shows that the player count if going down as you can see in the six month and year graphs. This is because people are not willing to invest in a game that is stuck on a ps3 i believe, that or their ps3's burnt out like mine. There is a whole game here so please do the right thing and move it to the ps4 asap where it can grow properly and look better. I'll be playing legion but it doesn't look ike it will bee much like dust other than the weapons and it being an fps. Suits are all going to be bpos the last i heard so this means that it's connection to eve is going to be fairly limited right off the bat but i could be wrong. I've seen and heard it all from the 'it wont happen crowd' so save it. [INSERT HYPE ABOUT HOW IT WILL HAPPEN HERE] Show your support people, being a negative nancy about it will not help. WE love dust CCP and we'd like it to live on and not die eventually. Anyone who truly loves the game and has been here for a long time should understand how crucial this is. Quite simply, a lot of us are not interested in legion and there are plenty of games coming that are going to be just as good, if not better. Help me Obi Wan Rattati, you're our only hope.
heres something nice for you:
It was NEVER said that dust WONT be coming to PS4.
it WAS said that the idea behind legion was to get back to CCPs core tech, which means developing on PC which can then be ported to PS4 much more easily than porting to a system like PS3 that is INTENTIONALLY difficult and extremely expensive to develop for.
in fact, it was always rumor mill bs that legion was PC exclusive. and right now theyre focusing on ps3 so they can have the game as good as possible when they branch dust to other platforms. the only way it will get to ps4 is if they have funding to do so, however, so buy moar Aw-rim!
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:16:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Why not PC first then ps4 later? CCP is much more familiar with PC,it also provides endless developing opportunities furthermore caters to more mature gamers which means they have a higher chance of staying longer compared to a child whom likes to be rewarded instantly. Once pc has set the foundation of a bigger playerbase and fully optimized mechanics then they can port it to ps4. Warframe did this and now look where it Is. But for now I will buy as much aurum as I can just to help the game I so dearly love
I keep repeating these same points in pc v ps4 threads countless times and ill do it even more. It shouldn't even be any competition. PC has an advantage on all factors. Price shouldn't be a problem by the way. You can buy a ps4 you can buy a desktop for the same price with more power. I swear to you
at the same time, ppl should be listening to the CPM when they come back from iceland saying, the question shouldnt be whether dust is coming to pc/ps4/whatever, but what do we need to do to make it a realistic outcome.
its not like CCP is going to be able to do whatever ppl want with the game when everybodys so afraid to put money into it that they cant afford to.
and btw threads like this are never going to get a blue tag, just because CCP isnt that stupid anymore. they announced an idea they had for where to take dust moving forward last year and a massive chunk of steady players biomassed feeling "betrayed" that CCP even suggested that moving to PC may be an option.
now the playerbase is divided into two factions: the players that are gonna biomass if CCP says PS4, and the players that are gonna biomass if CCP says PC.
why dont we all just unite under one flag: i propose we all just become the players that play the game on ps3 and want to see dust continnue to grow even when the ps3 is a distant memory.
remember when we all believed that dust could be a 10 year long game? dust is profitable, that means it has the potential to become another EVE for CCP. in other words, the last thing they want to do is say anything that will kill the game off because the idea now is to make it last forever and get more refined with age like theyve been doing with EVE.
and lets face it... from such humble beginings, EVE has become a truly great MMO. I want to see dust become another such great MMO, and i'm sure deep down all the FPS buffs around here want to see it outshine COD, BF, or whatever the popular game of the week is.
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:27:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:
Chicken little crap, wtf does that even mean hahaha.
it means all the players running around screaming "dust is dead, the playerbase is falling, the devs are going to leave us behind and move to pc/not move to pc/why wont it come to ps4" (yah im lookin at you) are going to kill the game when we, the players who actually care about the future development of dust should be the ones letting people know that dust actually is in a really good state, playerbase has stabilized, game is making money, development is on a good track, the game will outlive the ps3 etc.
you want to see dust on ps4? let this thread die and make a new one, but instead of focusing on whether theyre going to develop for your platform of choice, focus on "realistically, what can be done to help dust come to my platform of choice when the time comes?"
and for the love of god, if you dont want dust to shrivel up and die, put money into the game. free games dont fund themselves, and aying 5$ once or twice doesnt count. this game has gotten steady development for years and has seen improvements, rebalancing, and engine upgrades the likes of which console games never see, and its done it multiple times over.
if you still have anything to spend aurum on instead of stockpiling it, you arent helping fund the game. idk if that describes anyone here or not, i'm just saying.
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Greiv Rabbah
M.T.A.C Assault Operations Command
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:36:00 -
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el OPERATOR thanks for clarifying that for everybody. crisis averted.
TerranKnight87 all right, suppose i owe you an apology. when i first read it, it did seem like a PC vs PS4 thread and theres only like a million of those already.
aeon amadi good to see you settled down and came back to us. that comparison with the pics was a perfect example of what i'm saying. Dust can see the amount of growth EVE has enjoyed and having a graphic that illustrates just how massive that growth can be puts everything in perspective a bit i think.
Sebiestor scout, MTAC pilot, Merc w/ a face
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:38:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:2005 is not old and i dont think ill ever be watching that lol.
[:flabbergasted:] wow uh... you really dont know it was a childrens story? like... forever ago?
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:53:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:
Chicken little crap, wtf does that even mean hahaha.
it means all the players running around screaming "dust is dead, the playerbase is falling, the devs are going to leave us behind and move to pc/not move to pc/why wont it come to ps4" (yah im lookin at you) are going to kill the game when we, the players who actually care about the future development of dust should be the ones letting people know that dust actually is in a really good state, playerbase has stabilized, game is making money, development is on a good track, the game will outlive the ps3 etc. you want to see dust on ps4? let this thread die and make a new one, but instead of focusing on whether theyre going to develop for your platform of choice, focus on "realistically, what can be done to help dust come to my platform of choice when the time comes?" and for the love of god, if you dont want dust to shrivel up and die, put money into the game. free games dont fund themselves, and aying 5$ once or twice doesnt count. this game has gotten steady development for years and has seen improvements, rebalancing, and engine upgrades the likes of which console games never see, and its done it multiple times over. if you still have anything to spend aurum on instead of stockpiling it, you arent helping fund the game. idk if that describes anyone here or not, i'm just saying. If you'd like to do that rather than telling me to then be my guest. I've also spent -ú1000, maybe more on dust with my main so please dont assume pure crap. You're preaching to the choir on that one. Also if anyone did stockpile aurum, it wouldn't matter as they'd have already made the purchase but i have never known anyone to do that. http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust The playerbase is falling. If YOU would like to make a thread the way YOU would like then be my guest. If it's any good then i'll support it. If you cba then by all means, stfu lol.
no i'm not going to make a "what can i do to bring dust to ps4" thread for you. i personally wont be giving sony any more of my money, so id rather see the dev team actually tap out the ps3's capabilities now that theyve gotten better at developing for it before they move on to another system that i may or may not be following them with.
i didnt assume that you havent spent decent money on this game. i specifically said idk whether anyone here is the "buy 5$ of aur and then QQ" crowd or not. which is literally the exact opposite of assuming
and congrats. now you know someone that hit the point where they had nothing left to buy and kept paying into it.
i still want the game to grow even though i've bought all the packs, got all the sp i need, got my warbarge fully upgraded, got all the blueprints i want (quafe weapons excluded bc i have horrible luck), bought all the special color outfits, bought fistful after ever-loving fistful of keys, and have nothing left to do but stockpile aurum.
dont take that the wrong way. i'm thrilled to hear that youve payed a good amount in the game. without ppl like us funding it, this gme wouldnt get much anywhere
the playerbase is holding pretty steady and seeing new players each day. do all of them stay? no, most get protostomped and quit after a handful of matches, but overall, while its not trending upward like eve consistenly does, its also not falling through the floor like ppl act.
and its not cant be arsed. i'm doing my thing, haunting threads and trying to keep the mood about this game a positive one, as the community atmosphere in a lot of ways needs help imo. 
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 20:55:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:2005 is not old and i dont think ill ever be watching that lol. [:flabbergasted:] wow uh... you really dont know it was a childrens story? like... forever ago? Ah i see there it's a 1943 classic. No. I liked beartrix potters peter rabbit, paddington bear, thomas the tank engine and **** like that.
i didnt like chicken little. i thought it was idiotic...
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.26 21:16:00 -
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thats pretty much what i expected the eventual game to be. did you read the eve books and dust fiction? they set such a good stage, describing the life on the planets and then... well, you see how it turned out. i dont really like that aspect, but i believe it has the potential.
as a scout in eve, i wanted to scout in dust. not just be target practice, but actually really scout. to explore, and track down ruins or drone hives and whatnot. to take and fortify districts that eggers with levels in planetology could build command bases on for us to fortify. for us to use the plants on the planets to build ship equipment that could be sold of the secondary market of dust legend. to pick up high sec contracts for megacorps to complete missions for pubs, to fight off the incursion planetside in FW. to pick up contracts from capsuleer corps to complete an objective and put out contracts for pick up and drop off at planets.
to be ferried planetside in dropships or deploy from player owned MCCs.
to zoom past an enemy base, light them up with scans, and cloak my scout lav before hopping out to get in flanking position while my squad marches toward.
to stomp across the battlefield in an MTAC fitted with a gatling gun turret and a target painter, lighting up foes in an epic blaze of glory, salvaging the scraps, and heading back to base(or a nearby station if the facilities arent available on-world) to build drones to sell or stock up for personal use.
i bought hook line and sinker into the EVE for PS3 version of Dust 514 that CCP set us up for.
i still get excited thinking about it. i still want to see it happen someday.
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Greiv Rabbah
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Posted - 2015.03.28 02:22:00 -
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TerranKnight87 wrote:Greiv Rabbah wrote:thats pretty much what i expected the eventual game to be. did you read the eve books and dust fiction? they set such a good stage, describing the life on the planets and then... well, you see how it turned out. i dont really like that aspect, but i believe it has the potential.
as a scout in eve, i wanted to scout in dust. not just be target practice, but actually really scout. to explore, and track down ruins or drone hives and whatnot. to take and fortify districts that eggers with levels in planetology could build command bases on for us to fortify. for us to use the plants on the planets to build ship equipment that could be sold of the secondary market of dust legend. to pick up high sec contracts for megacorps to complete missions for pubs, to fight off the incursion planetside in FW. to pick up contracts from capsuleer corps to complete an objective and put out contracts for pick up and drop off at planets.
to be ferried planetside in dropships or deploy from player owned MCCs.
to zoom past an enemy base, light them up with scans, and cloak my scout lav before hopping out to get in flanking position while my squad marches toward.
to stomp across the battlefield in an MTAC fitted with a gatling gun turret and a target painter, lighting up foes in an epic blaze of glory, salvaging the scraps, and heading back to base(or a nearby station if the facilities arent available on-world) to build drones to sell or stock up for personal use.
i bought hook line and sinker into the EVE for PS3 version of Dust 514 that CCP set us up for.
i still get excited thinking about it. i still want to see it happen someday. No i've not read any of the books. Yeah defo. The thing most dusters don't realise is that there'd be more content and things to do if eve pilots ran it like that. It would still be the same game but there'd be more to do, see and it would actually mean something kind of thing and actually have impact and such in New Eden rather than what we have now. CCP went off track i think by trying to fit New Eden in with dust rather than fitting dust in with New Eden. Result - Time consuming lobby shooter with a forum that has more depth than the actual game lol. I'm going offline now so i'll reply to anything tomorrow.
^this.
But one of the things hurting this game is all the QQ forcing devs to waste precious dev time rebalancing things to death instead of implementing needed features that would attract new players and actually satisfy vets a bit.
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