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DJINN Jecture
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Posted - 2015.03.25 05:42:00 -
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Well for those of you complaining that if its on the computer you wouldn't be able to use a controller get your Google Search out and find out how. It too can happen, and those of you saying but my PS4 costs me so much less, I will put to you that a good GFX card for your computer is less still than a PS4 and that combined with hooking it up to your 72" LCD TV via HDMI or VGA cable will get you the new console feel with the high end performance you are looking for at a marginal cost difference.
Port to PC is the way to go, I know several months back I said the opposite but its amazing what can happen when the costs of both items drop dramatically every 3-6 months, wait that's likely just computers, not consoles. I'll do another price comparison, but last time I checked (3 weeks ago) a PS4 still costs around $450 in my area, while a decent NVidia GFX card recently cost me just over $100. This upgrade allows me to play both PS2 and Eve Online at the same time with no tearing or frame-rate loss on multiple monitors.
I'm really not understanding the issue with moving to a computer over a console. Is it comfort zone for the current audience? I know of many players who play all the console games mentioned in this thread on their PCs and seem to enjoy the games just as much.
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DJINN Jecture
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Posted - 2015.03.26 05:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:DJINN Jecture wrote:Well for those of you complaining that if its on the computer you wouldn't be able to use a controller get your Google Search out and find out how. It too can happen, and those of you saying but my PS4 costs me so much less, I will put to you that a good GFX card for your computer is less still than a PS4 and that combined with hooking it up to your 72" LCD TV via HDMI or VGA cable will get you the new console feel with the high end performance you are looking for at a marginal cost difference. Port to PC is the way to go, I know several months back I said the opposite but its amazing what can happen when the costs of both items drop dramatically every 3-6 months, wait that's likely just computers, not consoles. I'll do another price comparison, but last time I checked a PS4 still costs around $450 in my area, while a decent NVidia GFX card recently cost me just over $100. This upgrade allows me to play both PS2 and Eve Online at the same time with no tearing or frame-rate loss on multiple monitors. I'm really not understanding the issue with moving to a computer over a console. Is it comfort zone for the current audience? I know of many players who play all the console games mentioned in this thread on their PCs and seem to enjoy the games just as much. I actually don't mind either a PC port or a PS4 port. I don't really mind either, so long as the game moves on to something better than what it is. The PC to me is ideal because there are far more PC owners than there are PS4 owners and the hardware is far easier and cheaper to upgrade.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 15:04:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:TerranKnight87 wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:TooMany Names AlreadyTaken wrote:PS3 production stops in March next year... Yes, time to get busy with the PS4.
The world is advancing, don't let Dust 514 fall behind. So the logical conclusion is to make it on another console that in eight years will be replaced (even though the hardware on it is already out-dated) and we'll be right back in the same situation? By that logic the console industry should shut down and everything should be on pc. Console is always outdated but it is what it is, it's not going anywhere (Lol true on many levels). Moving the goal post, there. Console games generally aren't going for long-term persistence year-long investments into character progression and the like. Even Destiny didn't go in with the intent to last forever with constant updates and expansions, they're at least realistic in the medium they made the game for. Dust 514? Project Legion? Same philosophy as Eve Online. Online and running as long as they can afford to do it and continually develop for it. If you can find me one other console game that intended to run indefinitely in this same manner, with or without the consideration that their chosen medium (console) would eventually become outdated and replaced by something better, then we can say "by that logic the console industry should shut down and everything should be on PC". Apples to Airplanes, yo. EDIT: The primary difference here is that on PC, CCP doesn't have to consult with Sony for every update or optimize for the use of outdated consoles; they can just look at what the majority of their PC clients are using and model the game - freely, I might add - to that standard. Just like they've done with Eve Online. Eve Online twelve years ago: http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/megathron.jpgEve Online today: http://images.gameskinny.com/gameskinny/89485ebe5fa5b9399d9be58c9f03990b.jpgNow imagine having to basically rebuild the entire game every-time a new console comes out with a new architecture instead of just updating the engine through the game launcher. I also like the idea of One Client to Rule Them All, being able to launch my eve client, dust, and maybe one or two other eve toons at a time would be great, in fact I would say ideal, and then being able to tend them all at once from one control setup, rather than having to put down my controller to type a message to someone and let them know "hey the POS is being seiged, get your ships over here" or to say be able to launch my dust toon from the merc launcher while tackling someone to take down their ship and steal it from them.
EDIT: Yeah I know how much bad press this idea (merc launchers) has gotten EDIT: One Client and platform for a dev should be a goal to move towards, as it means only needing to have one large team pooling resources rather than dividing them by platform and distance, making better use of available resources.
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Posted - 2015.03.26 18:43:00 -
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el OPERATOR wrote:Haven't read the entire thread and probably commented proPS4 already, I usually do with threads like this.
Quick note though about PC vs PS4-
The PS4 is a standardized platform whose hardware mostly is identical between different users. This means players play amongst themselves with few to no hardware-based advantages . That newest overclocked whatever that comes to market every 3 weeks has NO bearing on the competition that occurs within PS4s and their network of players.
I personally got OUT of PC gaming years ago because the whole chasing the newest doodad to hit the PC market just to stay competitive at the same level got old, quick. I cannot describe how...liberating it was to fire up my first PS2 or my Xbox, open a game with multiplayer and then play without glaring imbalances from different hardware OR w/e the FOTW hax that were out being all over those games. Win, lose or draw the games that were played were played on skill and skill alone as much as reasonably possible.
This something that cannot be ignored: PS2, BF4, BF3, CoD etc do NOT share a fundamental concept with DUST and that is the concept of ownership. We spend weeks or months progressing, earning and spending SP and ISK to outfit ourselves and finally PC for districts. BF et al. are PvP yes, but the matches are just for EoM stats and once the battle is over it doesn't what happened there. New Eden is not like this, outside of pubs, who wins and who loses matters overall because it affects that possession element. There will be nothing worse in the world of gaming than to have a mission-critical PC match (for example) go to **** because (since its on PC) players are piping in those ddos' and all their scripthax from their uber-modded PCs.
Seriously, if the price of stability and worthwhile gaming is just $400 , done and done. Game Over. If you want take a look harder at BF3 on PS3 and lag switching, modded controllers etc, it is not just the PC world that suffers from this kind of garbage gameplay but PS3s and XBoxes as well. In fact given that CCP employs anti-cheat coding I would guess that the kind of stuff you are suggesting would be rather limited and likely result in people DCing rather than continue due to whatever hack they have going on.
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