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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.05 14:19:00 -
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MinAssault + CR = lol can't hit me and you dead in less than a second. GG.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.05 14:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:\_____/ <--- It looks like there's still some tears left, you mind squeezing your eyelids a bit more?
^ This is what people do when they have no argument to speak of.
It's an admittance that your point is valid OP and Atiim accepts your logic is sound
It's the closest thing you can get to him clicking the 'Like' button without actually clicking it.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.05 14:50:00 -
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Atiim wrote:You should know by now that I never run out of arguments to make with people However he doesn't make any assertions in his reply and flat out admits that it's a troll post so there's no argument for me to make. Well, to properly troll the troll, we could have a spirited debate about the state of CR balance vs. the other service rifles.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.05 15:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Well, to properly troll the troll, we could have a spirited debate about the state of CR balance vs. the other service rifles. This sounds entertaining. The service rifles (CR, AR, RR, and ScR) are overall in a good place, and while I **** on the CR quite often, it is not gamebreakingly OP.
That being said, it is one of the service rifles that I consider to be the deadliest with the least amount of "weakness".
RR has spool-up, AR's range is pathetic, ScR can overheat, and the CR has what? Low ammo capacity? It's ammo capacity is comparable to the other rifle's, it just happens to have an insane RoF so it requires frequent resupply mid-battle. Fit a nanohive and you are able to negate a weapon's short-coming? I don't believe that to be balanced.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.05 15:12:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:99,9% of dust players do not even realize/know that the real RPM of the CR is 857 and not the 1200 it has listed on paper. the CR is on the lower end of damage per clip without the minmatar assault bonus. factor in its real RPM and you will quickly realize that the anti shield weapons do comparable dps to armor or in case of TAR/SCR they do even more. I would love to see the math on this worked out for discussion purposes, because you can understand I will not be taking you at your word.
Also, do we have anything from CCP stating the DPS is incorrectly displayed on the CR? Do we have a thread where a player is able to prove it with numbers and other such witchcraft?
Jack McReady wrote:Need more facts? I can go on all day. These are not facts, these are words on a forum. Facts involve evidence proving your point.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2015.02.05 15:45:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:These are not facts, these are words on a forum. Facts involve evidence proving your point. burst length x fire interval + burst interval = total interval for each burst 60 / total interval for each burst * burst length = the real RPM (this can be even read up here, explained by CCP Logibro right in the post how burst fire mechanic is calculated: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=175033) you can lookup the CR stats in the RAW SDE CR burst length is 3 fire interval is 0.05 (your paper 1200 RPM) burst interval 0.06 (the thing that makes it drop to 857 RPM) thus the total interval is 0.21 this results in RPM of 857 Do the rest of the math yourself, if you are not able to do your homework then you are also not eligible to discuss balance, it is really simple. Don't get your panties in a twist because someone asked you to provide evidence. It makes you look defensive and unsure of yourself.
The post you linked pertains to the burst HMG, which does not feature the same firing mechanic as the CR. Do you have anything that relates to the weapon we are discussing?
You still haven't given any validity to your "The CR is on the lower end of damage per clip without the Minmatar assault bonus." or "Factor in its real RPM and you will quickly realize that the anti shield weapons do comparable dps to armor or in case of TAR/SCR they do even more." statements.
"You don't want McSyphilis. Don't nobody want McSyphilis." - One Eyed King
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